Was Jodha really too good n Ruqaiyya too bad? - Page 2

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

but she remained his khas till his death

it is said that akbar once said he should have never married anyone apart from rukku

jodha is the queen mother the one who game birth to the heir prince salim
and it is said all 3 queens remained friends so that no one else could manipulate akbar


Ohh really 😲😲 n where did u get this info ??? ... any references ..from documents or chronicles or any archives n NO INTERNET infos PLSSS ..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I liked your post and it made me think

I want to point out at the start that I am not very knowledgable about history, but I HAVE READ all of History_geek threads and replies and posts on them by Kamal too. I think they have done great deal of research and given links so I believe their views.

Firstly we are watching humanization of iconic figures of 450 years back, the times when there was EXTREME RIDIGITY IN RELIGIOUS AND HISTORICAL MATTERS

My view is Rukayya is shown gray not black and she IS GOING TO CHANGE, --- This is her process also

See Rukayya character is a BEK from very young age, she had very important blood line and she was always very pampered
Akbar doing anything in Rukayya's favour would have been greatly accepted in DEK and DEA also. She was from his religion and very influential.
But here we are seeing her human side, I am sure they all felt the same human emotions,
She was his first wife and to see him getting closer to another would have been difficult

Akbar LOVED Jodha because he had NO REAL NEED to give her so much honor and positions and authority. He went against Ulemas for her so many times
He would have had to face GREAT DISLIKE to give prominence to Jodha being of different religion, but HE DID THAT FACING ALL OPPOSITION SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING
You should read History_geek's threads to see WHAT ALL AKBAR DID FOR HIS LOVE OF JODHA, her palaces, her prominence, her position in HIS LIFE

I think Akbar faced bloodshed and betrayal from near ones so many times, Jodha was a catalyst in his life, her liberal views made him mellow to a better human being

I think this is the process of change we are seeing in ALL of them

What information I have read on History_geek's threads, I think they all eventually came to accept each other and it is said that
Akbar ALWAYS TOOK JODHA WITH HIM EVERYWHERE- she was his true love and partner
While he trusted Rukayya and Salima with the upbringing of his heir

Are you aware he sent his another son Daniel to be raised in Amer by Jodha's mother? That shows the respect he had for them

I feel Rukayya character is going to change when REAL TRUTH ABOUT MA COMES OUT, cos she is going to get shock learning she was the murderer of her unborn child

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

<font size="2">I liked your post and it made me think

I want to point out at the start that I am not very knowledgable about history, but I HAVE READ all of History_geek threads and replies and posts on them by Kamal too. I think they have done great deal of research and given links so I believe their views.

Firstly we are watching humanization of iconic figures of 450 years back, the times when there was EXTREME RIDIGITY IN RELIGIOUS AND HISTORICAL MATTERS

My view is Rukayya is shown gray not black and she IS GOING TO CHANGE, --- This is her process also

See Rukayya character is a BEK from very young age, she had very important blood line and she was always very pampered
Akbar doing anything in Rukayya's favour would have been greatly accepted in DEK and DEA also. She was from his religion and very influential.
But here we are seeing her human side, I am sure they all felt the same human emotions,
She was his first wife and to see him getting closer to another would have been difficult

Akbar LOVED Jodha because he had NO REAL NEED to give her so much honor and positions and authority. He went against Ulemas for her so many times
He would have had to face GREAT DISLIKE to give prominence to Jodha being of different religion, but HE DID THAT FACING ALL OPPOSITION SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING
You should read History_geek's threads to see WHAT ALL AKBAR DID FOR HIS LOVE OF JODHA, her palaces, her prominence, her position in HIS LIFE

I think Akbar faced bloodshed and betrayal from near ones so many times, Jodha was a catalyst in his life, her liberal views made him mellow to a better human being

I think this is the process of change we are seeing in ALL of them

What information I have read on History_geek's threads, I think they all eventually came to accept each other and it is said that
Akbar ALWAYS TOOK JODHA WITH HIM EVERYWHERE- she was his true love and partner
While he trusted Rukayya and Salima with the upbringing of his heir

Are you aware he sent his another son Daniel to be raised in Amer by Jodha's mother? That shows the respect he had for them

I feel Rukayya character is going to change when REAL TRUTH ABOUT MA COMES OUT, cos she is going to get shock learning she was the murderer of her unborn child

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Maddy, will Ruq really come to know MA was responsible for her MC?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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500 or 400 years back...religious norm were very strict and rigid...Akbar marrying a hindu princess was a big shock to the people of that era...the bigger shock was making her his chief Queen and giving her so much freedom...this was about jodha
ruq is not at all bad...she is just a human...she lost her father when she was young...got married to akbar very young... she belongs to royal blood line..akbar was everything to her..obviously she is going to have tough time accepting that jodha too holds a special place in his heart...she would have been so insecure...😉.

she is not saint...she has grey shades...she aint evil...!!!!!otherwise why would she love salim so much...😛
you should go thru history geekz finding...they will tell u loads about the mughal family...😛😛😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
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ruqaiyee love only her post khas begum even one epi when jodha asked she love jalla or his post if she cooking her husband she think she is bandi next about jodha how one person she good now only bcoz of jodha shaffurudin relese i donot like...both are opposite..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: albakry


Maddy, will Ruq really come to know MA was responsible for her MC?



Yes she will
REAL Akbar learnt about MA truth and Abhay has quoted some reference books also - that he was very sad to learn of MA hand in his remaining childless, her acts in it

Abhay has shared information on his threads, esp about Ruk MC and MA part in it

If Jalal knows then Rukayya will know too

I am just curious to know IF JALAL LEARNT BEFORE OR AFTER MA DEATH

I hope they show it is before, she will go wild after Adham's death and I hope to see TEDA JALAL WITH HER - I hope this is the uchit rupanter they do

What is the fun of watching MA torture us if they do not show her downslide - TOTALLY also

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Ruqu is shown grey in the serial, not really black. Black is only for MA, Adham and Sharif. Ruqu can be unkind and cruel at times but she is not evil. Her character is rather petty these days but certainly not black-hearted like MA.

According to what I have read, she was a very insecure lady. In her later years, she brought up Khurram (Shah Jahan) and didn't allow his parents (Jagat Gosain and Jahangir) to meet him for more than a few hours. Even in those meetings she used to be present. Only after Jahangir ascended the throne, was Khurram allowed to return to his mother. One can take her action of limiting parent-child interaction as evil, but you should remember she is very insecure and possessive about people she loves. This is one incident from history, I know about, that tells us about her real character. If you compare it with serial Ruqaiya, they don't seem very different, do they?

Jodha's sweetness and magnanimity is part of her nature. I think her character is wise beyond her years, just like Jalal and very unlike Ruqu. People like her do exist in real life too. Can seem a far-fetched thought but that goodness does exist. I know people in my family who are like that: selfless, forgiving and always polite no matter how bad the other person behaves with them. I relate to them and Jodha. Such people are few but they are present. And she also was a 'lady beyond her times' as quoted in Abhay's (history_geek) post. 😳


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