What game is Jalal playing? It's more than chess!

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diksha

@sweet_diksha

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Posted: 11 years ago

#21

Originally posted by: skanda12

I am with you Abhay on this issue ... I also don't anticipate any MU because of Sujamal. Actually I feel Sujamal may bring some inside info about Sharif and Mewat to Jalal!

right abhay... Suja is planning to attack Amer (Mewat)

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..Anusha..

@..Anusha..

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Posted: 11 years ago

#22

Originally posted by: skanda12

So far he's not been a romantic but I suspect he now will go exactly in the opposite direction and falls head over heels in love!

ever the romantic are you? Okay. He is in love, that's the problem. He's fighting it. Keeps going to her hojra tch tch tch.

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deejagi

@deejagi

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Posted: 11 years ago

#23

Mansi, great post. There is no wonder if you are confused with Jalal as his wives themselves were confused about him.

Will post my theory or points later in the day. I am totally tied up today, have to complete a hell lot of work today in office as I am off the whole next week.

Till then we will have many more views for the episode.

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gheet

@gheet

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Posted: 11 years ago

#24

Hi Mansi,

I have been a silent reader of your thread and enjoying it immensely. You are brilliant in your observation.

First the scene that caught my heart and made me sigh yesterday, is when Jalal was looking everywhere cutely when Jodha caught him drying her hair. That was so adorable for a Shehshah, kind of smilar to a young lover caught staring at his love and blushing all the way when he was caught.

I would like to share my two cents here, I see jealousy in two ways. One that out of love that hurts, you are jealous because the person that you love is loving someone else, you don't matter to him, it's more of heart and emotion. This jealousy is not the destructive kind, this jealously sometime drives one to sacrifice and withdraw so that the person you love can be happy, because his happiness matters the most.

The other one, the destructive kind which I don't prefer to call it jealousy but more of a feeling of fear and insecurity. Fear of losing the control that you have on the other person, fear of losing the power you have been holding all the while. Fear of this new person taking control and the possibility of being rejected or outcast. Like the one among the siblings, as you explained brilliantly. What Ruqaiyya fears most is losing the control/position of being the most important person in his life, someone who he listen to the most, losing the only person you have in life - a childlike fear than one of a lover/wife.

Your theory behind Jalal's actions, that actually are instigating Ruqaiya is commendable. I feel Jalal wants Ruqaiya to realize soon that there is some sort of bond between him and Jodha, and as his best friend he wants her to adjust because he knows Ruqaiyya's obsession of Audha and etc and he knows her reaction/tantrum is not out of love. So the sooner she understands Jalal and Jodha's new equation the better for her.

Ruqaiyya is reacting that is evident from pre cap, and I think her reactions and tantrums are going to elevate Jodha and degrade herself. Actually, I don't applaud this technic used by CVs to elevate Jodha's image, one can shine without emphasizing on another character's flaw or by degrading the other character. Anyway, in a way Ruqaiyya is giving away so many things on her own because of her rage, she is pushing Jalal more towards Jodha. Like what MA said, Jodha is beggining to capture Jalal, and Ruqaiya can't actually do anything about it.

There were also many foreshadowing dialogues past few episodes;

1. MA's predicting Ruqaiyya losing Jalal to Jodha - which can be seen soon.

2. Jalal's persistent in not forgiving BB/Sharif for defaming Jodha - so if Ruqaiyya does something similar to Jodha, can we expect the unforgiving Shehshah here?

3. Many think Jodha's dialogue yesterday about Jalal's high sense of justice even to those he cares/loves is about next MU - that maybe Jalal will punish Jodha though now he has feelings towards her. But what if it is about Ruqaiyya?

Now, what will happen if Jodha handles the harem way better than Ruqaiyya? What would be the reaction of the people of Agra and Jalal? Or if Jodha's messes up because Ruqaiyya's trick and ploy, and Jalal still stand strong beside her, what will happen to Ruqaiyya now? Will she finally understand that the equation is changing? Or will it be like what HB said - something big and dangerous to happen that would change Jalal and Ruqaiyya's equation all together?

Edited by gheet - 11 years ago

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sun29

@sun29

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Posted: 11 years ago

#25

hi mansi...very beautifully explained...i loved both their scenes...his eagerness is so evident for her company...and jodha is moving towards him and he knows that...that subtle isharas laced with intense feelings and then what is happening to me phase makes it so pleasurable to watch them...

coming to ruqaiyya ...i do not think there is any hidden agenda ..like as before he is teasing her assuming it is all sporting...he thinks he can pacify ruqaiyya and then it is over ...this is where HB ka prediction is goig to come...jalal does not see the seriousness of her insecurity or knows about MA fuelling her up...the gravity of this jealousy will fall on him when ruqaiyya blinded in fury and instigated by MA may harm jodha...she is an immature tantrum throwing kid for jalal ..hence he likes teasing her coz as i said he does not realize the seriousness of the issue for ruqaiyya whereas HB can ...as i told long back this is going to come back and blow on his face...

another thing he never let his feelings out for jodha for anyone to confirm..everyone speculates and wonders including the audience ...only when he broke down at dargah we realized but that was for him and God...to the world he is back to being a puzzle .people breaking their head about him...and he will not let anyone on abt what he feels till something drastic happens and he screams out at the world...so he lets people assume what they want..he has no dil,he cannot love,he will not love etc etc etc

today he may add something more to pacify ruqaiyy ad in godh bharai may release sharif and MA instigating her more hence the precap...

even though ruqaiyya is doing it to belittle jodha ..i want her to take up harem responsibility ...treat the ladies there as women and not slaves and animals...and share the duties among them and give them their due as part of the harem...show ruqaiyya ahe can do it but handover the responsibility back to her after a week...telling she only did it because she was duty bound and did not want to let down ...but she does not want it...nor her position or her audha and say that one last time...she never came between her and jallu...rukku dragged her forcibly and if rukku has a problem with her ,then it is her problem deal with it...since she has no issues with rukku she does not feel the need to waste her time or energy keeping on harping the same thing again and again..and Jalal is her husband as well...she does not find the need to seek anyone's approval to be his wife...do her pranam and walk off head held high ...

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: Akanksha_33
Mansi, great post...

The points you made about Ruqaiyya and Jalal riling her up... seem to be quite good... as you mentioned it is in his nature... i think you can't change it... he really likes to rile his begums up... he use to do that with Jodha too... and Ruqiayya any ant can also rile her up...but i think what he doesn't realise is that this constant Ruqaiyya riling up is going to cause Jodha a lot of trouble from Ruqaiyya's side...

Overall the episode was good... the hair essence scene was good... but doesn't Jodha remember that he said all that? or she just remembers the part of Jalal holding her hand and telling her not to leave? 😕

Precap... Thunderbolts are landing on Jodha... Ruqaiyya is going to scratch her... 😡

And how can I forget/... Sujamal is back! 😳

but he's bringing trouble with him...

That suspense is killing me also whether Jodha remembers everything Jalal said in the dream!😆😆😆😆

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#27

Originally posted by: sreev12
Good take Mansi!

Thanks Sree!😛

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#28

Originally posted by: neelkamal
mansi

i never understood why jalal makes ruqs jealous .he always says she is his friend first .then why he deliberately makes her jealous . if any one could answer my question why jalal does that

Read my full post. I have tried to give that answer!😃😉

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Mansi

@skanda12

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Posted: 11 years ago

#29

Originally posted by: lasyap3
Brilliant Analysis as usual!👏👍🏼You are a star⭐️
I totally agree with your point of view but I don't know why sometimes feel that Jalal is trying to check Ruqaiyya's feelings regarding his bonding with Jodha😕🥱

The scenes potrayed yesterday are really very interesting and significant as you have described in your post!

There are indeed many tracks being introduced which are barely loose strings which can be tied by the CVs anytime according to their convienence🥱😕Although we can see that they are following history upto major extent(but not in chronological order,otherwise Maham Anga must be dead by this time😆).

There have been posts regarding the closure of Adham Khan.But I don't think its going to happen soon either.

Anyway we can't do anything other than JWW😊as how each loose string would be tied!Hope they screenplay it beautifully...

Actually I think Adham's end is nearing!