24 JAN JA-JO 'I want to rescue him - he's the symbol of my fortune!' - Page 9

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Posted: 11 years ago
#81
Thank you all so much for your wonderful analysis...
Pallavi, Anu, Mages and Pals
I've copied them on to my drive..
will reply to them today..🤗
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Posted: 11 years ago
#82

Originally posted by: lashy

JODHA-MOTHI

'Please get a hold on yourself' the forlorn friend advices the beautiful queen - who was now frantic and her form dishevelled as she sat on her bed. It was obvious she'd been hysterically sobbing at her helplessness for a good while now!
'HOW?' Jodha wails 'Every moment that Vishkanya stays close to him...she gets closer to him and now they're about to wed too..and I cannot do anything about it...how do I save him...if something happened to him I will never forgive myself for it...I have to protect him!'

These were the same lines she'd uttered after Jalal had been wounded following the tiger fiasco - this was how distraught she was then too. However, the driving force behind the two instances are quite different. In the earlier instance, while Jodha was all out to save an Emperor of the Sultanate and a victim of her folly from succumbing to injuries, here she is desperate to save a 'man' - her husband' - the one she's begun to love despite all of the flaws that he's depicted lately.

'Don't lie to yourself...' Mothi argues 'You are not restless because the Shehenshah is going to wed Benazir...it is because you have started falling in love with him'
Jodha is aghast. Momentarily, she bucks up - there was no way she was going to accept this 'love-waala' excuse 'No...nothing of the sort' (Made for each other these warring lovers!)
'Your face is the reflection of your emotions and one can very well see how much you love him' Mothi continues 'And YOU know why he's doing this...he is doing this to avenge the anguish he felt when you'd pushed him away that night...he wants to agonize you...you might call it ghrina...he might call it Prathishodh...however, I call this LOVE' (Yayyy...that's what we call it too, Mothi😛)

'Remember...' Mothi reiterates 'Ever since the day that you'd pushed him away, he's lost the smile on his face...he's become so forlorn and lonely...'
Obviously, Jodha refutes it with empty words - her face as pale as can be 'I don't have any such feelings...I don't consider him my husband...but he is the mark of my 'fortune and goodwill'..so, I can't let him come to harm...even if he punishes me, gets angry with me or throws me out of Agra! I have to save him because I...I...I...'
Mothi (and the audience) wait with bated breath - for Jodha to finish her confession(???) - but, that wasn't meant to happen today!
Splendid scene this!👏

JALAL-ATGAH
Jalal's expressions when brushing off Atgah's 'What's been eating you lately' is praiseworthy
Him sitting by the fire - recollecting the two vachans he'd granted her, while the chilly winds of Agra felt chillier - was a beautiful scene. 👏
The defeated expressions he had on his face for those 5 seconds held so much of significance - and this is what I read them as -

'Why has it never been enough' he thinks to himself as he sits down 'Why has whatever I've done for her never been sufficient...why can't she feel for me the way I for her...and when I know that she doesn't then why does my heart ache so much...I am thoroughly unconvinced about this wedding and agreed to it purely to rile her... why am I acting so irrationally and when I know I am, I don't want to stop it...what is this power that she holds over me...what IS this pain I feel - a pain that any amount of humiliation I give her does not seem to diminish...if anything, it only torments me more!'
Jalal has been mistaking this pain as 'Ego'. Once he realizes it's 'love', he'd realize that attempting to get back at the one you love rarely gives you 'peace'

OTHER POINTS I LIKED TODAY
Shareefuddin's possessive 'Damn! Why do you have to love him so much?'😆
Salima's unrelenting unprejudiced support for the right - i.e. Jodha!👏
Salim Chisti's awakening to the fact that Shehenshah will indeed wake up to a new realization and that the black clouds in Agra will move over to make way for sunshine!😳
Jodha's marked appearance of relief in finding one believer - one supporter to her theory. Nothing can be more frustrating when you know that you are saying the truth and yet you have none beside you to support you in it! She was grasping at straws here - I was elated she discovered welcome backing in the form of Salima Begum!

PRECAP
Sunny, your Jai Kali ..I mean Ekta's Jai Ma Kaali tune is here...😆
I would love to watch this routine of ending Ben instead of the kiss-suck poison route that we'd all been dreading. However, having said that - I do not want Jodha's saviour act to come at the cost of retribution!
I would be rejoicing if this precap was true and NOT a dream as many fear - I loved Jodha's fiery form when she hauled Jalal to Agra...I would love to see her don such a form again!
I'm sure the audiences would love it too!😃

MY TAKE-
I truly hope once this Ben saga is wrapped up that the makers don't decide to see-saw the characterizations any further. This serial is Jodha Akbar for a reason - not Jodha...not Akbar...
I still stand by my feelings that Jalal's character need not have been dragged down through the ditches just for a supposedly heartless man to realize that he could be in love.
I do hope that whatever the problems and MUs that the couple face ahead - personalities are not compromised to this extent - hopefully, we're never again left wondering 'Where's my Jodha' and 'Where's my Jalal?'

Lashy, loved your analysis of the Jodha-Moti scene and the Atga-Jalal scene ... and also the salim Chisti sanket scene. ClapClapClapClapClap I wish Atga had said the "L" word to Jalal just as Moti said outright to Jodha. I would have liked to see Jalal's expression if Atga had done that!
Regarding the precap, out of all the scenarios possible, thescariest one is that jalal senses that no one but Jodha has that kind of ready prowess to shoot five/six arrows on target in one shot and therefore a new MU starts where even if he doesn't see her behind the bushes, he still accuses her of jealousy and attempting assassination of Ben. Other than this ghastly scenario, I am prepared for any other possibility!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#83
@ Mages
awesome analysis...🤗
Thanks dear🤗
i just watched the epi online...after reading all the updates...i couldn't wait till monday night when it will air in my country...and i was surprise to see such a beautiful epi in terms of Akdha unspoken feelings and pain...this was unexpected after the thursday fiasco...wow...Akdha are not in the same frame...one J is flooding the room with tears...the other J is sulking away in his beloved thoughts...what a chemistry...i truly saw our old Akdha romance back in form...i hope it maintains...
the moti-jodha and atgah-jallu parallel scenes were beautiful...i was speechless...a beautiful executed emotions by Akdha...
True Mages! I felt the same too...🤗

RT nailed that scene with just expressions...even jodha looked so heartbroken when moti was describing jallu's behaviour after the rejection night...she could not hear that jallu is in deep pain...moti got her confirmation by Akdha behaviour towards each other that they are madly in love with each other...both love each other equally...even sharifuddin could see immense love for jallu in jodha's eyes...everyone could see that the two dumbos husband-wife are in love except for themselves
Spot on!...both the leads' expressions were stupendous...🤗

i hope after the ben's track...the focus is upon Akdha realisation of love before a new MU created by the evil gang(ruku..adham...shariffudin...MA...abul mali)...the set is stage for the next track...
Tell me about it!😊
MA is still smart enough to know that jallu says yes to the marriage becos of jodha...another tight slap on ruku's face when she will know that she was the main culprit to danger her husband life...this will lead jallu make comparisons b/w ruku-jodha...and one day he will utter what ruku wants to hear that jodha is truly his wife in every sense...his soul mate...that will be a great slap on her face and audha ka paudha...she is disgust me as a wife...the worst is she is jallu's childhood friend and she doesn't understand what turmoil he is going through
Very well put!😕

a new epic romance...abul-malli-ben romantic love story...everyone has a love story in this show...except for Akdha which takes 2 steps forward and 3 step backwards and back to square one...glad to see ben in full clothes...meghna looks gorgeous in mughal outfit...what did ben saw in that broom stick hair creep...
Again...agree 100% 😆

HB-salima were sweethearts...though they can't believe that vishkanya exist...but they know that jodha can never lie...she always stand for the right...i am happy that HB-salima is on jodha's side
Me too...!😳😊

the precap shows salima-jodha-moti as one team...the 3 friends are going to rock...and both the ladies will save their wives...i hope salima puts some sense in jallu's brains...he is angry with jodha...he will not listen to her...the only person he will listen is salima...jodha dons the Maa Kali avatar...she will destroy everything that harms her husband...a small glimpse of shiv-parvati love story in form of Akdha
I really do wish Salima puts some sense into Jalal😕 this MU has gone on long enough

salim chishti scenes makes no sense for me...its a tactic to gain lost trps and position back...we all know that Akdha will fall in love...but its a very very long journey...i am not going to fall into the trap..even Akdha soul talk cannot fool me too...if salim chishti rules Agra...shaguni bai rules Amer...
Same here...Salim Baba's scenes and Shaguni Bai's scenes and even Soul talks are only a pleasant deviation from ongoing tracks to tell the romance-based viewers 'hang in there crowd...it's coming...SOME DAY!'😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: prejudiced

😆
Nah..Was just tied up in the morning.
😆 Ok
Finally saw the episode..
since the expectation had bottomed, it was actually nice.
Liked Jalaal -Atgah and every scene of Jodha's.
I came back and read u'r perception of the Jalaal's deep expression and loved it and concur totally.
Thank you so much da! 😃
I still wish he hadn't reacted the way he did yesterday but oh well.
Oh, tell me about it! 😕
Coming to the precap...With all those pictures Meghna is releasing, does not look like reality😡
Meghna still shooting and releasing 4 different clothes is making me nervous.
I doubt I can endure this beyond 2-3 episodes...
Weve been cribbing for a month now!
I know...this weekend, the forums been the mist active in a while now, I must say! 😆 Thanks so much sweetie 😊

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: pallavi003

di..good morning..🤗..well it's so beautiful the way you describe our beautiful pair and their feelings,, you know I thought after Thursday epi that friday also would be a bakwass epi , but it came out very well, played totally on the emotional restlessness of the two people who are unaware of their feelings or don't want to acknowledge it..
Thanks so much sweetie ..🤗.

I wish someone could hold a mirror of truth in front of Jalal's face and Moti..did I say..I lUB you.. though you are not as sweet as our oldie, but still, You tried enough to make Jo realise her feelings, so a teddy bear and a Bournville for you..😳😊
Awww same here... I could overlook this lady's faults because of what she is achieving 😆

Atgah shab, poor poor man, so much work to do and now deciphering shahensha's code of eye expressions. and Jalal still is not giving him promotion.. na Insafi ..bahaut badi na insafi..😕😆
😆Atgah khan is the one character who would rarely need any script practise...while MA possibly spends most of her time practising dialogues😆

Ruqaiyaa - she was roaming around Jalal and giving him lots and lota of lectures on Mughal khandan ki shaan-maan-aan-baan-paan-naan- and lots of words end with 'N', but my my my., she surprised me so much in the DEK.. what a speaker she is.. hats off..sari 'N' word jaye tel lene.. their is a New 'M' word that's marriage and if I said you will marry ben, you have to do it otherwise I will deffo make you a deaf,,😆😆..
Ruqaiyya has positively turned psycho!

And Jalal-jodha begum ne kaha shaadi na kare-shadi karke rahenge..

Jodha begum ne kaha late night boating is injurious to health...aadhi raat ko hi jayenge..

Jodha begum ne kaha oxygen is necessary to live..Carbon-di-oxide se kaam chalayenge..

Jodha begum ne kaha No kissing to a 'hissing' lady,, deffo kiss her..😆😆

Jodha begum ne kaha pani se digestion achha hota hai..sharab pe sharab piyenge..😉
ROFLLL😆 Exactly how jalal is behaving lately!

chalo ..cvs ko akal aya..der aya par durust aaya.. 😆😆..unhe pata chal gaya ki AWAAM sach me padeshan ho gaya hai..and ben agar nahi gayi to patthar se agli baar Cvs ko hi marenge sab..😆😆..so I wish fare well of ben on Monday itself..

Monday might be early I think, though I wish it was true!

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pals2411

As usual, awesome analysis Lashy.👏 Loved the episode today. Jodha was so near to confessing and she just stopped in time😆 Only I would have loved a few more self-talks of Jo, that would express her inner turmoil on how she is actually feeling for Jallu. The reason for this being, as viewers we are getting to see Jallu in a sober and confused state, acting all irrational due to LOVE. We have seen his chest pain in the past and his extra meherbani for Jo (which Ruq, MA, Adham, Hoshiyaar, etc. and even we have seen). But this is not the case with Jo. So the sudden realization of being in love, particularly after the recent public humiliation in DEK has really confused me. If they would have shown or even in future show how she is engulfed in battle of her self-respect, the acknowledgement of Jallu's actions in the past and her own developing feelings for him, then I and also many in the forum would be convinced of Jo's feelings for Ja.

If you actually list all the times Jodha has been speaking about it, it's been a good amount too...First it started with Jodha saying Shehenshah was doing it only to annoy her when she spoke to Mothi...then her crying to HB about the DEK scene...then her understanding from Hakims talks that she was maybe feeling jealous of Benazir...her monologue and prayers to Kanha on the day of the bachelors party and now her sobbing to Moti about saving his life! So it's been gradual realization over the past 2 months...why it hasn't had the effect was because all of that beauty and essence has been sapped up by the nonsensical Benazir angle and Ruqaiyya/Maham nonsense...
So yes, Jodha has been gradually realizing her feelings just like Jalal has! 😳

Loved the Chisthi scene. He indicated of a romantic track in the near future.
Sigh...don't give too much importance to that one...many a shaguni Bai prediction, Christi scenes and soul talks have gone by without much happening...it's more to satisfy us romantics! After 2 weeks of cordiality, the next set of MUs are gonna start playing out!
Today I also loved Hamida, who actually disappointed me yesterday by not fully trusting Jo and also after having kept quiet in DEK. Today both her and Salima's confidence on Jo was worth it. Their views that Jo never lies and they have never seen her scheme and plot was right on spot. Just wanted Jallu to also think likewise. But I know his mind is clouded now. 😕
Yup! 😃 It will happen, don't worry...
The precap was a bit confusing. If this is no dream but reality then I would love this fact as well. I don't love the weepy Jo. Her return to her daring and brave act is what I love. But after thinking of the consequences of this act, I am a bit sad. I am not fully ready for another bout of insults from Ruq, MA and Jallu again. Hope Jo and Salima have made a plan. 😊
Same here! 😳
Yes, I fully agree with you on the point that this is Jodha Akbar. I want my self-righteous, proud, brave and daring Jo back and so my teeda, cunning and smirkwala Jallu back. CVs. please do not chop their character to pieces after each and every track.😭
Please...pretty please...😭
Thanks so much pals...lovely comments yaar!,😃

Edited by lashy - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#87

Originally posted by: skanda12

Lashy, loved your analysis of the Jodha-Moti scene and the Atga-Jalal scene ... and also the salim Chisti sanket scene. 👏 I wish Atga had said the "L" word to Jalal just as Moti said outright to Jodha. I would have liked to see Jalal's expression if Atga had done that!
Atgah is not in the same comfort zone with jalal as Mothi is with Jodha...precisely why everyone misses Abdul so much...the one guy who could show Jalal the mirror fearlessly...why, he'd even opposed BK when jalal was BKs laadla...everyone misses him.
Btw, thanks so much for the comments dear 😳
Regarding the precap, out of all the scenarios possible, thescariest one is that jalal senses that no one but Jodha has that kind of ready prowess to shoot five/six arrows on target in one shot and therefore a new MU starts where even if he doesn't see her behind the bushes, he still accuses her of jealousy and attempting assassination of Ben. Other than this ghastly scenario, I am prepared for any other possibility!
Same here...I can understand putting up with MU for the sake of drama, but after it's been 2 months, it's getting REALLY REALLY tiring


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Awesome post!!! Loved the explanation on the Jalal-Atga scene!!
But the problem is that now, after so much up and down, I'm finding it hard to believe their love for each other...It doesn't seem real...😕
It feels as though the CVs just suddenly sprung it on the audience...
The graph should've gone gradually upwards, only then would the story have been believable..., but now, it's like up one moment towards love, then right down to the core of the earth towards ghrina...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: akdha-fan

Awesome post!!! Loved the explanation on the Jalal-Atga scene!!
But the problem is that now, after so much up and down, I'm finding it hard to believe their love for each other...It doesn't seem real...😕
It feels as though the CVs just suddenly sprung it on the audience...

The graph should've gone gradually upwards, only then would the story have been believable..., but now, it's like up one moment towards love, then right down to the core of the earth towards ghrina...

Though I am cynical of how many times they are possibly going to misunderstand each other, they have still come a long way from zinda jala denge jalal and go die outside Amer Jodha...
So yes, there is going to be ups and downs but the progress (albeit at a snails pace) is somewhat forward...😕
Thanks so much Shreya 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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loved your analysis..agree with you..

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