Weekend Analysis Thread 21:CVs Mere Sawaalo ka jawaab do..do na

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I m back with a weekend post after a long time πŸ˜ƒ .. I had to crib a lot about the current turn of events 😑 and so had to open this post on weekend ...


I just want to ask few things to the CVs ..

First , are they taking show trps for granted .. because they r high , so they assume that viewers will take any nonsense thrown our way now πŸ€”... Dont they aspire to take the trps further high and be the no.1 show now or they r simply satisfied as no.2 show only and so we hardly saw any real momentum this week in the story other than Benazir saga


Second, are CVs running out of ideas and scenes now ?? πŸ€”.. The same old Meena bazar drama for one whole episode πŸ₯±πŸ₯± , same old sword fighting drama for another episode πŸ₯±πŸ₯± , the same old jealousy track we hv watched in several other shows and the same old scenes of Maham brainwashing act πŸ₯± or Javeda's comedy act πŸ₯± or Benazir chanting her husn dialogue for the 123456789th time and doing that irritating ramp walk all around the Mahal 😑 or Ruqaiyya talking about her powerplay for 1234567899th time without making much sense or Jodha cribbing about Shehenshah to Moti 123456789th time in one week 😳... Is this their idea of showing a love track between Jalal-Jodha ?? πŸ€”...


Third , why u need a Benazir to bring the jealousy factor .. Why not some random begum in Harem itself or why not Ruqaiyya only ?? πŸ˜•.. I understand Jodha might not feel jealous seeing Jalal-Ruqaiyya together since they share more of friendship bonding but there r several other beautiful begums in the Harem na .. so why they need a random dancer for jealousy factor and then show OTT scenes like Jalal making her sit besides him in Diwan-e-khaas and publicly humiliating not just Jodha but his other begums too πŸ€”...


Fourth , what happened to Jalal's brains again ?? .. First he puts Adham-Shariff in same prison so that they can do all the planning and plotting together aaram se 😳 and then he easily gets brainwashed by Maham's silly rant on how Jodha made fun of his manliness by gifting that palna πŸ˜•πŸ˜•...He actually falls for this silly thought kya ?? πŸ˜•...I understand his anger on Jodha after the night pushing fiasco but since then not once Jalal actually tried to rethink on the whole letter saga or directly ask Jodha about what she actually wrote in that letter ... In short he stopped thinking totally post the night fiasco and is being a blind Maham follower once again which I thought wont b the case especially after the whole Adham fiasco .. but well


Fifth , When will this OTT Vishkanya track end ?? πŸ˜•... Its high time CVs stop using a third party always to progress with the Jalal-Jodha love track and instead show their bonding properly .. Their cute little nok-jhoks r enough to make the viewers love their chemistry and scenes .. No need of any Vishkanya factor at all πŸ˜ƒ


Phewww finally finished venting out all my frustrations πŸ˜†... I really hope CVs take the above five pointers seriously and do some damage control quickly by finishing off this Vishkanya track first and then getting Jalal's brains back in order and most important let Jalal-Jodha hv some confrontations now instead of Jodha always cribbing to Moti and there Jalal always cribbing to Maham 😑


Coming to this week's episodes , here r some of the interesting things both good and bad we witnessed this week ...


1) Jalal-Jodha's night self-talks on Monday which saved the otherwise disaster episode :

I thought Monday will b disaster after the last friday precap but surprisingly it was better than last week's epis all thanks to the all important self talks of Jalal and Jodha at night πŸ‘πŸΌ... thats why I keep demanding for self talks in episodes because they can make all the difference and give us a clearer picture of whats going in Jalal and Jodha's mind as well as heart and then we viewers dont hv to make any assumptions ... I will never complain as long as CVs give these self-talks every week .. πŸ˜ƒ

I liked how Jodha questioned herself about why is it affecting her so much when Jalal as Shehenshah can spend his night with any woman he wants .. he did it earlier too and she had no issues .. so why is this Benazir's presense around Jalal suddenly bothering her so much πŸ˜‰πŸ˜›.. Jodha's question itself proves that she is falling in love with Jalal and so cant tolerate any other women around him 😳...

On the other hand I liked how Jalal too realises that Jodha is affected and so she is getting all pissed off seeing Benazir around him but at the same time he is not really hving fun out of this thinking but instead he too is confused regarding what Jodha wants and this confusion in Jalal's mind only will make him realise that he too is in love with Jodha and so her restlessness is bothering him too 😳😳... He is actually not enjoying this jealousy game anymore .. he is trying hard to make Jodha jealous but in the process he is getting affected seeing Jodha all restless πŸ˜‰πŸ˜³.. He tries to compliment Benazir's hair but his eyes was on Jodha's hair .. errr who is he fooling here .. neither Benazir nor the viewers for sure since both knows his eyes were all on Jodha's hair and not Benazir πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜›.. Even after Benazir does the whole drama of falling in water followed by Jalal saving her , still Jalal does not really fall for Benazir's so called wet husn πŸ˜† since he was still busy irritating Jodha with the hot water fiasco πŸ˜†πŸ˜†... Overall Jalal was only interested to see Jodha's reaction to Benazir's presense but he himself is nomore enjoying presense of any other women other than Jodha πŸ˜›...




2) Jodha-Hamida bonding and Hamida's necklace gift to Jodha in return of Jodha's palna gift on tuesday again saves the otherwise boring Meena bazaar spl episode :

Ok so I said this many times and repeating it again , I m seriously fed up with this Meena bazar idea of Jalal now to show his superiority over others ..Like I said already , it seems as if CVs r running out of ideas and r repeating those same scenes of sword fight or Meena bazaar ... is their creativity on romantic track so limited kya πŸ˜•πŸ˜• ..

The only scene I liked in this whole Meena bazaar fiasco was Hamida and Jodha's bonding when Jodha shows the palna gift to Hamida and then Hamida gifts that necklace to Jodha ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ .. That was a wonderful scene and I loved how even Jalal felt embarassed with his decision of giving kohinoor diamond to Benazir since inside he too knew that Jodha's palna gift for the waaris of this family was simply priceless πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘... No wonder next morning in garden he was showing fake anger to Jodha but at the same time he was actually speechless too since he too knows that his Kohinoor giving decision last night was wrong and there was no excuse for it either πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†...

In Meena Bazaar , this Javeda was selling some secret of Benazir's beauty in bottle ,errr I m not sure if it was just a filler comedy scene or the bottle could contain some poison and mayb the woman who got that bottle might get affected applying the same lotion of Benazir and mayb from this incident Jodha or someone might get the doubt that Benazir is actually a vishkanya .. lets see πŸ€”



3) Jalal-Jodha garden nok-jhoks on prasad made the wednesday episode enjoyable πŸ‘πŸΌ though Maham's brainwashing act to Jalal and Jodha's cribbing act to Moti were boring to watch over and over again

Only scene which I liked in Wednesday episode was the garden scene when Jodha gives prasad to Jalal while both continue to show their fake anger towards each other πŸ˜› .. I thought it was a cute hubby-wifey nok jhok scene and it looked natural too since Jalal's anger for Jodha looked cute there and not irritating 😳 while Jodha's explanation about the palna gift to Jalal too looked believable there and not her typical lecturing 😳 ... I loved how Jalal moved his hand away from her thus showing his fake anger when Jodha reminded him its prasad and so like a good boy he again gives his hand to take the prasad and eats it too .. awww πŸ˜†πŸ˜³... Yet again shows that his anger for Jodha is not really hate in this case but just a Abhimaan types because Jodha rejected him that night and even Jodha knows it and so this time she is not really taking his anger seriously but trying to indirectly convince him by either giving him prasad or the shawl in thursday episode πŸ˜‰πŸ˜›


If CVs give more such natural nok jhok scenes between both without bringing in too much of Maham brainwashing or Benazir's irritating ramp walks ,then I m sure viewers will not mind it at all 😳...

Other than the above cute nok-jhok scene , rest was yet again OTT and irritating ...Jalal seems to hv lost his brains yet again ... How on earth he gets so easily brainwashed with Maham's rant against Jodha regarding how she presented the palna to make fun of his manliness πŸ˜• .. thats the most ridiculous brainwashing I hv ever seen and Jalal actually believing it was so stupid ... Jalal is no impotent to believe what Maham says about his mardangi being taunted by Jodha ?? πŸ˜•... And how does Suryabhan come in the equation after so much of time has passed by ?? πŸ˜•.. If Jodha wanted to take Suryabhan's revenge from Jalal , she could hv done it long back when she got ample chances in various other tracks .. Why will she wait so long for it ?? πŸ˜•... So I dont understand how can Jalal believe all of this especially that whole manliness wala part πŸ˜• ...

Also Jodha's nonstop cribbing to Moti regarding why Jalal is favouring Benazir over others is becoming a bit repitative now .. Its looking as if CVs are repeating same scenes again and again like Jodha-Moti jealousy talks or Maham brainwashing Jalal saga or Ruqaiyya-Maham unwanted blabberings just to fill the episode for 20 mins πŸ₯±πŸ₯±... how many times we will see these scenes when its almost clear that Jodha is feeling jealous , Jalal is feeling pissed off after the push that night and Ruqaiyya is hving fun over Jodha-Benazir's clash ... So we dont need anymore scenes to prove the same again and again without any real progress πŸ₯±πŸ₯±...

Jalal-Jodha nok-jhok scenes on the other hand are new and fresh ..thats why we r enjoying them more .. 😳




4) Jalal giving royal ignore to Benazir and Jalal-Jodha's nok-jhok over shawl on thursday made it the best episode so far this week ... πŸ‘πŸΌ

I again enjoyed those simple nok jhoks of Jalal-Jodha over shawl 😳.. I wish CVs had not introduced all this Benazir saga and could hv just shown Jalal angry with Jodha and their cute nok jhoks thereafter 😳... I loved the way Jalal first teased Jodha about giving the shawl to Benazir and then made excuses to the little kiddo over kite flying πŸ˜†πŸ˜³...Also Jalal-Jodha's fake acting in front of Hamida but then fighting behind her back looked very natural , just how a typical husband and wife fights in private but shows all hunky dori in front of elders πŸ˜†πŸ˜³... Jodha even while fighting was concerned about Jalal's wound and even gives her a helping hand to walk πŸ˜‰πŸ˜›.. No wonder Jalal enjoyed every bit of it πŸ˜†πŸ˜›... I also loved how Jodha on her own volunteers to leave the moment Benazir arrives without really standing there or showing her jealousy openly even though Jalal knew Jodha gets pissed off with Benazir's presense .. πŸ˜†.. Actually this Benazir part could hv been done by anyone even Ruqaiyya to b honest if the purpose is just trying to make Jodha jealous over these small thingsπŸ€”...

Anyways good thing is Jalal in alone is not really showing any attraction or interest for Benazir πŸ˜ƒ .. he is not even looking at her πŸ˜†.. in fact when Benazir tried to hold his hand and seduce him in his room , he actually got pissed off and reminded her that she is not his begum but just a bandhi and so better she takes his permission before sitting down 🀣...I wish Jodha overheard this convo .. she would hv been the happiest then πŸ˜†πŸ˜†.. Also liked how Jalal refused to take Benazir's support next day after Jodha walked off ... so Jalal actually made it clear to Benazir that he has no interest in her and that he is only using her to make Jodha jealous πŸ˜ƒ...Thank god for small mercies by the CVs ...pheww πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

And on a side note Javeda in Benazir's costume looked better than Benazir actually πŸ€”πŸ˜†...




5) Jalal-Jodha's nok-jhoks and Salima's words to Jodha about "Jealousy is the first sign of love" made Friday's episode second best after Thursday 😳

I m glad at least thursday and friday were good episodes and we hv something to look forward to on Monday as now it seems Jodha-Moti together will come to know about Benazir's vishkanya reality soon πŸ€”... I wish Jalal gets some brain cells back too by next week and somehow gets to know about Benazir's truth on his own instead of once again Jodha doing the rescue act .. I thought that Sipahi will take Benazir's letter directly to Jalal but damnn , it seems this Sipahi just wants to sleep with Benazir and so will blackmail her only about the letter which means this sipahi is of no use now 😑😑

Anyways rest of the episode was quite good especially Salima's words to Jodha regarding her growing Jealousy for Benazir which clearly proves that she is falling in love with Jalal since jealousy is always the first sign of love 😳... Loved the way both Moti and Salima were teasing Jodha about her insecurity regarding Benazir and for the first time Jodha was acting all defensive but failing miserably πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜›...

Also loved the Jalal-Jodha scene where Jalal talks in Jodha's Rajputana style while informing her about her younger brother Mirza hakim's homecoming πŸ˜›... Earlier Jodha would hv taken offense the way Jalal makes fun of her Rajput style hindi but now things hv changed and so instead of taking offense , she simply laughs it off since she finds his act quite cute and funny just like us viewers πŸ˜‰,.. Clear signs of how love is changing Jodha slowly and so she has stopped nitpicking small issues of Jalal now and instead enjoying all her nok-jhoks with him πŸ˜‰πŸ˜³πŸ˜³.. Even the medicine making scene was cute the way Jalal getting all restless and so Jodha deliberately taking her own sweet time to make the medicine thus making Jalal wait πŸ˜†πŸ˜›... These scenes r a welcoming change from all that Benazir saga πŸ˜ƒ

It seems this Mirza Hakim is a positive character for now and might bond well with Jodha out of respect for her as bhabhi πŸ€”... Its difficult to say if he will later hv some evil intentions or not being a step brother of Jalal but for now he looks sweet and positive and mayb he can do the job of making Jalal a bit jealous in case he starts bonding like a good friend with Jodha ... in short a tit for tat for Jalal here πŸ˜‰πŸ˜†πŸ˜›...

Also it seems I was right about the bottle thing .. Its indeed carrying Benazir's poison reason why Javeda got those ugly rashes all over her face ... But Maham dint look too amused ..So does Maham know about Benazir's reality ?? πŸ€”



Overall it was a mixed week with few nice Jalal-Jodha moments but little story progress which is the main issue ... I really hope this Benazir saga ends next week and she gets caught soon ... Whether Maham knows her reality or not , she needs to get caught next week itself and I dont want anymore similar drama of Jodha knowing her reality but Jalal not ready to believe her blabla ..we hv seen enough of that in previous tracks and so this time Jalal better use his brains and trust Jodha regarding Benazir 😑...


Phew thats it from me .. looking forward to all your views and comments πŸ˜ƒ

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Good post. Totally agree the Benazir track was not needed to make Jodha jealous other begums could have been used but i'm glad for the light moments we had in between.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Hey Jyo.Missed you. So,your back for good?How was vacation? πŸ˜†
Anyhoo,about the cvs,the lesser I say the better. 🀑 Im fed up.

They genuinely need to pull up their socks. They are recycling the same tracks over and over again. People are either getting pregnant(or not getting pregnant),or vomiting multi-coloured fluids. πŸ€ͺ

Musicians (who dont relaly know to handle their own instruments) are making animated peacocks dance. Villains are doing comedy and they are part-time cupids as well (the latter of which I very much appreciate).the eunuchs have become bobble heads and perform mujra as well occasionally(rememba Resham dancing about in the chamber?LOL)

For gods sake,please give us some war tracks! Pretty,please? πŸ˜’ Our Shahenshah needs to get some fresh air. This Mad Mahal is taking a toll on him
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mslee

Good post. Totally agree the Benazir track was not needed to make Jodha jealous other begums could have been used but i'm glad for the light moments we had in between.



Agree .. light moments between Jalal-Jodha were definitely the saviour of this week 😳
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: disha15

Hey Jyo.Missed you. So,your back for good?How was vacation? πŸ˜†

Anyhoo,about the cvs,the lesser I say the better. 🀑 Im fed up.

They genuinely need to pull up their socks. They are recycling the same tracks over and over again. People are either getting pregnant(or not getting pregnant),or vomiting multi-coloured fluids. πŸ€ͺ

Musicians (who dont relaly know to handle their own instruments) are making animated peacocks dance. Villains are doing comedy and they are part-time cupids as well (the latter of which I very much appreciate).the eunuchs have become bobble heads and perform mujra as well occasionally(rememba Resham dancing about in the chamber?LOL)

For gods sake,please give us some war tracks! Pretty,please? πŸ˜’ Our Shahenshah needs to get some fresh air. This Mad Mahal is taking a toll on him



I so agree on vomitting multi-coloured fluids 🀣.. we will hv Benazir doing that next week now πŸ˜†πŸ˜†... at one point it starts to look more like a fantasy tale than a historical show with such OTT tracks

I so want some major war track .. some intense confrontation scenes of Jalal-Jodha on that night ... some real historical stuffs now ... enough of all these silly tracks

I forgot to add in my take .. they even made a mockery of Tansen last to last week

Oh my vacation was pretty good and filled with adventures ... did rafting skeeing horse riding .. it was real fun in Manali-Shimla-Dharmashala πŸ˜ƒ
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Posted: 11 years ago
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You've asked all the burning questions Ive been having.Am not even able to enjoy this light hearted banter considering there is no closure to the emotional turmoil Jalaal went thru after "the" night.I want these two to talk abt it. For Jalaal to understand Jodha's pov...
Everytime it looks like Jalaal has bigger better plans and has things under control, he does something where he look very lame. It happened with the Ruqu divorce track and it looks like its happening again.Yesterday I seriously thought the soldier that confronted Benazir could be someone planted by Jalaal to brief him on happenings around the harem... Today it did not seem like it.
I would be pleasantly surprised if Jalaal has even a clue abt her motives.
Perhaps am expecting too much depth but I'm rapidly losing interest. In the process couldn't enjoy Jo-Ja moments... when there are more serious issues that needs to be sorted between these two..
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06



I so agree on vomitting multi-coloured fluids 🀣..

Hai na? 🀣 Its ridiculous πŸ˜†

we will hv Benazir doing that next week now πŸ˜†πŸ˜†... at one point it starts to look more like a fantasy tale than a historical show with such OTT tracks

I swear.I do not understand how all those lousy tracks(the ones i mentiond above) make this show a historical 😡 The cvs have really let me down. Not just with tracks,but even with character assassination. They have managed ruining every major character in the show from time to time. When one character is on an upward hill,the other is tumbling down. Why do they do this every single time? To glorify one character,what is the need to degrade the other?

I so want some major war track .. some intense confrontation scenes of Jalal-Jodha on that night ... some real historical stuffs now ... enough of all these silly tracks

I swear! The war is a necessity now! They need to spend sometime away from each other,to know each other's worth.

I forgot to add in my take .. they even made a mockery of Tansen last to last week

Sheesh.Dont even get em started on him. Obnoxious is a too decent word πŸ˜†

Oh my vacation was pretty good and filled with adventures ... did rafting skeeing horse riding .. it was real fun in Manali-Shimla-Dharmashala πŸ˜ƒ

Wohooo! U sure had a lot of fun! 😎


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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: prejudiced

You've asked all the burning questions Ive been having.Am not even able to enjoy this light hearted banter considering there is no closure to the emotional turmoil Jalaal went thru after "the" night.I want these two to talk abt it. For Jalaal to understand Jodha's pov...

Everytime it looks like Jalaal has bigger better plans and has things under control, he does something where he look very lame. It happened with the Ruqu divorce track and it looks like its happening again.Yesterday I seriously thought the soldier that confronted Benazir could be someone planted by Jalaal to brief him on happenings around the harem... Today it did not seem like it.
I would be pleasantly surprised if Jalaal has even a clue abt her motives.
Perhaps am expecting too much depth but I'm rapidly losing interest. In the process couldn't enjoy Jo-Ja moments... when there are more serious issues that needs to be sorted between these two..



I agree with u and this is my biggest problem too ... Jalal initially appears all intelligent and we get the feel that all things r under his control but suddenly he is made a fool with silly stuffs like Vishkanya trying to attack him and then u will hv army of women from Jodha to Moti coming to his rescue πŸ˜•πŸ˜• ... see the precap .. it will b once again Harem ladies saving Jalal ... and this is what is putting me off ... He is a Shehenshah damn it .. and he cannot recognise a vishkanya trapping him

Though I enjoyed Jalal-Jodha moments but I do agree that certain things r left unanswered like Jalal's supressed emotions after the night or even Jodha should think on those lines about why Jalal made the move that night , what could b the reason and then both should hv confronted each other on this ...but all that never happened and we had Benazir ka entry amidst all this
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Posted: 11 years ago
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And see this is exactly the reason why we hv forum members divided too and fighting over who is better or who is more dumb ..Jalal or Jodha ... Its because of the CVs 😑.. When they do damage control for Jalal's character , they ruin Jodha that week and when they do damage control for Jodha's character , they ruin Jalal then

Right now Jodha is going all fine and so Jalal ka character has gone for a toss ... mayb next week we will hv role reversal πŸ˜†

Why cant CVs try to balance out both characters properly 😑

For a neutral fan like me who loves both Jalal-Jodha equally , it gets irritating after a point to see one character being compromised for the other every alternate week
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Happy Birthday Chulbul Bhai ! πŸ₯³ I'm gonna wear Bhai ki "forgive and let go" Budday wali Tshirt and erase buri nazar ! 🀣

And jae kya ? No Analysis / Discussion / dissection for Jalal's con dreams ? Jaa main tere naal Vaartalaap nahi karna ! 😑

Never mind !

Errr I haven't watched any episode after the hot one except for the pond scene and jump one ! Lol
Busy bhi thi and epis had zilch stuff to make me watch epis ! 😳

This jealousy track is just not working for me ! Not because it is a negative girl in or anything but something is missing to hook me !

Don't worry abt MA and her venom ! Jalal Ghanta nahi jhagad raha in the way she wants ! All he is using her venom is to prick jodha than taking a serious fight with her ! πŸ˜›

This track should have been Jalal angry ignoring jodha and her feeling the void in her life ! However much she may fight with him -she can't be without him !

I doubt if they will show the debar bhabhi making Jalal jealous ! Not a good relation to make him jealous IMO ! Jalal is raw in possessiveness ! He won't get J by someone taking Jodha's attention from him, more by someone (a total paraya Mard) flirting with her which mirza or any gentle man in brotherly relation of that era won't do with a brother plus a king's wife ! πŸ€” well since STEP so maybe works ! In this show STEP log like Dhadam bhi Bahut kuch karte hai ! Well maybe Jalal will be jealous with jodha giving busy time to Mirza ! Yawn ! Could have gotten some GUTSY friend of him who could Flirt with her than devar ! Blah ! Basically a hot specimen of Abdul ka league lol

Kya Yaar ! Why can't jodha have sexy bandhaa if he can have a baandhi ? 🀣

PS : Get well soon RT ! May your leg heal quick and you can make advances in the story ! 😳
This BT is manhoos ! Poor his leg ! Heard he got 8 stitches as there was a broken glass piece in the BT scene after his rejection from jodha. 😑 I was soo wondering why is Jalal only sitting throughout in all palace scenes sigh !
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