The deep game Jalal is playing!!! - Page 12

Originally posted by: lashy

Oh Ok pallo too😆...I thought I read you were confused by the whole episode🤔...but, I could have been mistaken...

Originally posted by: lashy

I know Sunny...but ye Jalal bhi na zaroorat se zyaadaa smirk karta hai kabhi kabhi...we can't read into what he's saying...then, everyone is compelled give those smiles all sorts of meanings...😆 and then that sets our 'apprehensive' wheels into motion too

Originally posted by: Autumn_Rose

I loved RuqLal BT scene.. Thanda paani daal lo 🤣

I burst out laughing in yesterday's episode.. when Lavina was scared of touching Rajat 🤣

Originally posted by: sun29

that is so true😆..uska ek dialogue and ek smirk ..the whole forum loses its sleep 😆..arre even MA cannot understand what is going on in his mind..and if doodh ka kara cannot fathom toh hum kaun se khet ki mooli hai 😆

my only worry is when he clearly realises about his feelings how on earth will he pacify or can he

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Dear Mansi,

A fair and logical analysis, which I am sure is very largely correct. Your posts always remind me of the briefs of a sound and careful lawyer, and as for this one, if I was the judge, I would decide in your favour.

I have always liked and respected Jalal as a character, and I always believed that having had very few relationships in his very troubled life, he attaches tremendous importance to maintaining those that he has, and right now that does NOT include Jodha.

One can love a person, or be obsessed with that person without understanding or being close to him/her, or even liking that person. But friendship is different, especially one of such very long standing as the one he has with Ruqaiya, who has been with him thru thick and thin. Whereas Jodha has not, and in fact so far she has done nothing but take from his, mostly with little on no gratitude.

So, if he were to ditch Ruqaiya now for Jodha because he is of late obsessed with the latter, I would lose all respect for him, whatever the frantic forum might think or feel. I am glad that he is not doing any such thing, and I was amused by all the hyperventilation across the forum last night.

I thought that he was pitch perfect with Ruqaiya yesterday in both their scenes together, especially the second one. He soothes her the way one soothes an angry, miserable child which feels that the parent does not love it.

I would add only one point. Jalal knows Ruqaiya inside out and so he probably discounts her insistence that the only thing she resents is the possible loss of her auda in the palace/harem and that she is NOT jealous and NOT afraid of losing him to Jodha. He realises that the lady doth protest too much. That what Ruqaiya asserts is not true at all, that what she fears in the innermost recesses of her being is precisely that she will lose him to Jodha. Not so much in the physical sense - she does not mind that - but in the psychological sense of having decisive influence on him and his thinking. And that she cannot stand.

Which is why he repeatedly tries to get her to come out and acknowledge that she is indeed jealous of Jodha, and by extension that she cares for him, Jalal, at the emotional level as well. Maybe he does that because it would be cathartic for Ruqaiya.

But perhaps, after having rejected the very idea all his life, he now seeks and needs that expression of emotional attachment from his dearest friend. Jodha does not love him or even care for him, and he cares nothing for any other begum. So perhaps, now that he has hitherto unknown feelings for Jodha, he also has this strange new need for emotional support and caring, and for that, whom else can he turn to but his Gatti?

Lastly, and you have touched on this, he sees that this whole balancing and adjusting exercise is vital for preventing Ruqaiya from going off the rails and perhaps taking her frustrations out on Jodha.

I do not see what Jalal is doing as a preparatory exercise to help Ruqaiya adjust to a life without him . The very charming example you have given would not really apply here, for Ruqaiya will always be a part of Jalal's life, and a very dear one, as his chief begum. She is not going anywhere. Jodha will have her own compartment and Ruqaiya hers.But Ruqaiya has to be brought round to accepting and not furiously resenting the very large part of Jalal that Jodha will eventually appropriate.

That is what Jalal is now working towards, even as the contours of his eventual relationship with Jodha are as yet unclear. He needs to keep his Gatti on a reasonably even keel all thru and that will take all his skills at cajoling, charming and persuading her that her importance for him will never be diminished come what may.

And if in the process, he has to indulge in a bit of suppressio veri at one time (as not revealing to Ruqiaya that it was he who told his Ammijaan about Jodha's birthday) , and a bit of suggestio falsi at another, why, one never tells children more than what is good for them, does one?

Shyamala

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Mansi,

This is exactly what many here thought would happen after Ruqaiya's miscarriage, that Jodha would comfort Jalal, and again that she would do so after he was expected to see thru Mahaam and be shattered. Nothing of the kind happened on either occasion.

Shyamala

Originally posted by: lashy

Aunty...precisely what you've written above is what I felt about the scene too...and I counted and found so far four of us forum waasis who liked the scene - Tripti, Soumya, Me and Minoo...😆

(maybe for different reasons) But, I liked the scene for the reasons you've stated above and a bit more...

I would lose respect for Jalal if he discarded Ruqaiyya for Jodha too...yuck! It would only indicate he could discard Jo for another younger female some years down the line...[By discard I don't mean literally discard, but ignore, slight, neglect etc]

If he can hold on to Ruqs - (for now possibly the most imp person in his life) place her and assure her of a position in his life that she'd never be shifted from...it only means once he starts treasuring his relationship with Jo then no one can ever shake the foundations of that relationship either..i.e. that none can take up Jo's spot in his life in future either!

True, the means in which he placates Ruqaiyya and Jodha are different and CONFOUNDING to many - his choice of words, tone and facial expressions are always an enigma...

However, at this point - I'm just clinging on to the fact that he indulges Ruqaiyya's tantrums (in a slightly different manner) just like he indulges Jo's tantrums too!

He may not use the appropriate choice of words/smiles at every juncture but his intent as of now that I see it to be is to NOT let the importance of one relationship slip just because the other one is gaining significance in his life and fast.