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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rangan11

We cannot deny that Bittu is Baldev in many ways while Baldev displayed 'all these ways' probably for the first time on Indian tv. Bittu is a smarter, more mature guy than Baldev, while Baldev, inspite of all his faults had completely won our heart. There was no scope of comparison for Baldev, while we have Baldev to compare Bittu with. Of course Vishal has improved in all these years as an actor and that should be! But, inspite of his inexperience in Veera he had played Baldev to perfection!

There are so many similarities in the storyline and the characters with EVKAV which seems repeatitive and this should not be! It seems that this cvs have thoroughly watched EVKAV and read all the indian forum posts, stories etc. where we have expressed our views and wishes, and they have moulded their story based on that.

We cannot deny that this show is way too filmy and Bittu is a Dabang with a characteristic swag and dialogues. Baldev, surprisingly, was a mixture of being adorably innocent, childish, funny, simple, dumb, aggressive, impulsive, headstrong, intense, passionate, grey to black, naughty, hopelessly romantic and of course having a king-sized heart. Inspite of his innumerable shades we could easily connect with him!

Actually, the VeeBa LS was very realistic unlike most of the shows. It was even more realistic as it was not obvious from the start unlike many onscreen couples. In the real world when one is in love, there are many instances when that person bows down to his heart than to other priorities, like to take revenge or to teach somebody a lesson. That doesn't always prove that the soft-hearted guy is a weak character.

There was hardly any physical scene for VeeBa, yet the way the VishAna chemistry scorched our screens even with their cute scenes or fights is a sure wonder! Since Veera ended in Aug 2015, all of the VeeBa fans have always craved to watch more of VeeBa and VishAna and therefore a similar story with our dear Vish reappering in a Baldev-like character has captivated the viewers' attention.

It is too early to judge any show. In fact, Gangaa too had not felt bad till some months, and then it started going down the drain and even VV' gorgeous looks and superb acting could not save it! It is also interesting to see viewers comparing every character Vishal plays to his Baldev! It happened with Sagar as well! People compare the other character with Baldev and try to prove that Baldev is inferior to the other one! If Vishal genuinely wants to be a versatile actor, then he should make sure that his JKJ is not a copy of any other show or film, and his character Bittu does not seem to be an improved, matured version of our dear old Ballu. Bittu should be unique as well as was Baldeva!




@Bold
This is Indian tv. There's nothing called "versatility" here 😆 Every new character is a mixture of old ones. Male leads here are either loud or subdued like Sooraj ji 😆 So this is NOT the right place to seach "versatility" Even Bollywood doesnt offer versatile roles. Someone like Ranbir also plays the same "manchild" in almost every film of his.
Having said that, I'll anyday prefer Bittu over Baldev or even Sagar.
Baldev was good only in the first few months post leap. After that, the character was turned into a laughing stock. Fans sustained with it only because Vishal played the character to perfection. Imagine any other actor in his place, Baldev wont be even worth mentioning 😆
Though I agree its too early to judge Bittu, I think the start is pretty good 😛
And this is Rashmi Sharma. She doesnt need to "watch" EVKAV to make her new shows 😆 Or for that matter any show 😆 This is the most rofl-worthy thing I've read in a while! 😆 She can show anything & it will become a talking point. Even if its Bittu turning into a fly like Simar 😆
And fyi, Veera was no pathbreaking show that producers will try to replicate it 😆 Sure it was amazing pre leap & the first few months post leap. But if I'm asked to rewatch those episodes today, I wont. There were & will be many better shows than Veera. And I dont see what similarity you find in JKJ and Veera.
There was nothing pathbreaking in VeeBa's lovestory either. All we had was Veera blindly following her Veerji's orders & literally walking over Baldev everytime with him just running behind her always *rolls eyes* I'm sure even you wont deny the fact that VeeBa jodi was hit *ONLY* because of Baldev. Nobody was a fan of Veera's character. And I'm sure nobody will want to replicate that in his show, let alone Rashmi Sharma 😛

Lastly, I'm a VISHAL VASHISHTHA fan. Not of any particular character he plays. Sure you can criticize one character & love the other one. But exaggerate comparison like this makes one dislike old fav character & jodi. Constant comparison of anything that Vishal does to Baldev & EVKAV has made me dislike that show & character to some extent :/

If you dont like watching Bittu & JKJ then that's your choice. But dont belittle Vishal's hardwork & dedication for the preparation of this role by constantly comparing it to Baldev. The most insulting thing fans can do to an actor is always pitting his previous character to new ones, without realising the efforts he or she puts in every new venture. Same goes to some Madirakshi fans as well because I see some of them comparing Munni to Siya. Imagine! 😆
For an actor, all his characters are dear because of all the hardwork he puts in.

But since its an open forum, you're entitled to your opinion 😊

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Posted: 8 years ago
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It is just a fun poll guys. I love both Baldev and bittu.so chill everyone.
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Posted: 8 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: Mental_Manadhil




@Bold
This is Indian tv. There's nothing called "versatility" here 😆 Every new character is a mixture of old ones. Male leads here are either loud or subdued like Sooraj ji 😆 So this is NOT the right place to seach "versatility" Even Bollywood doesnt offer versatile roles. Someone like Ranbir also plays the same "manchild" in almost every film of his.
Having said that, I'll anyday prefer Bittu over Baldev or even Sagar.
Baldev was good only in the first few months post leap. After that, the character was turned into a laughing stock. Fans sustained with it only because Vishal played the character to perfection. Imagine any other actor in his place, Baldev wont be even worth mentioning 😆
Though I agree its too early to judge Bittu, I think the start is pretty good 😛
And this is Rashmi Sharma. She doesnt need to "watch" EVKAV to make her new shows 😆 Or for that matter any show 😆 This is the most rofl-worthy thing I've read in a while! 😆 She can show anything & it will become a talking point. Even if its Bittu turning into a fly like Simar 😆
And fyi, Veera was no pathbreaking show that producers will try to replicate it 😆 Sure it was amazing pre leap & the first few months post leap. But if I'm asked to rewatch those episodes today, I wont. There were & will be many better shows than Veera. And I dont see what similarity you find in JKJ and Veera.
There was nothing pathbreaking in VeeBa's lovestory either. All we had was Veera blindly following her Veerji's orders & literally walking over Baldev everytime with him just running behind her always *rolls eyes* I'm sure even you wont deny the fact that VeeBa jodi was hit *ONLY* because of Baldev. Nobody was a fan of Veera's character. And I'm sure nobody will want to replicate that in his show, let alone Rashmi Sharma 😛

Lastly, I'm a VISHAL VASHISHTHA fan. Not of any particular character he plays. Sure you can criticize one character & love the other one. But exaggerate comparison like this makes one dislike old fav character & jodi. Constant comparison of anything that Vishal does to Baldev & EVKAV has made me dislike that show & character to some extent :/

If you dont like watching Bittu & JKJ then that's your choice. But dont belittle Vishal's hardwork & dedication for the preparation of this role by constantly comparing it to Baldev. The most insulting thing fans can do to an actor is always pitting his previous character to new ones, without realising the efforts he or she puts in every new venture. Same goes to some Madirakshi fans as well because I see some of them comparing Munni to Siya. Imagine! 😆
For an actor, all his characters are dear because of all the hardwork he puts in.

But since its an open forum, you're entitled to your opinion 😊


If you will read all the previous posts, u will see that it is not me but many others who have compared Bittu and Baldev and criticised the latter. I am a great fan of VV as well, so much so that only for him I have beared the pain of continuing to watch that crap show Gangaa till his last day in the show. I have never watched any Rashmi Sharma show, but have read many comments in which have expressed views against her shows in general, but maybe they all are wrong and Rashmi is the messiah in Indian tv world! There are indeed many similarities between these two shows like anokha bro-sis bond, ls starting with a love-hate relationship, hero being a jaat and a dabang, even the name of hero's close friend. Being a well wisher of VV, I have always and will always want him to try totally different roles, each one should have absolutely nothing in common with any of his previous ones. If the Jaat in JKJ had been played by any other actor, then I have had nothing to say. But, since VV is playing that role, I would have preferred him to play an entirely different sort of role than either Baldev, Sagar or even Ayan. Or, if in the indian tv, it is not possible, then at least to give a break for few years before taking up similar roles so that people forget his previous roles to some extent by that time and don't start the comparison like this. And I am sorry, but I have never said that Baldev was perfect and VeeBa ls was either. And I do sincerely hope that unlike how as u said Veera had bcom unwatchable after a few months into post leap, this show would continue to entertain us till last.
Edited by rangan11 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rangan11


If you will read all the previous posts, u will see that it is not me but many others who have compared Bittu and Baldev and criticised the latter. I am a great fan of VV as well, so much so that only for him I have beared the pain of continuing to watch that crap show Gangaa till his last day in the show. I have never watched any Rashmi Sharma show, but have read many comments in this forum who have expressed their views against her shows in general, but maybe they all are wrong. There are indeed many similarities between these two shows like anokha bro-sis bond, ls starting with a love-hate relationship, hero being a jaat and a dabang, even the name of hero's close friend. Being a well wisher of VV, I have always and will always want him to try totally different roles, each one should have absolutely nothing in common with any of his previous ones. If the Jaat in JKJ had been played by any other actor, then I have had nothing to say. But, since VV is playing that role, I would have preferred him to play an entirely different sort of role than either Baldev or even Sagar. Or, if in the indian tv, it is not possible, then at least to give a break for few years before taking up similar roles so that people forget his previous roles to some extent by that time and don't start the comparison like this. And I am sorry, but I have never said that Baldev was perfect and VeeBa ls was either.

Thank youso much for doing so much for vishal n watching his show n acknowledge his mehnat in such way 😛
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rangan11



If you will read all the previous posts, u will see that it is not me but many others who have compared Bittu and Baldev and criticised the latter. I am a great fan of VV as well, so much so that only for him I have beared the pain of continuing to watch that crap show Gangaa till his last day in the show. I have never watched any Rashmi Sharma show, but have read many comments in which have expressed views against her shows in general, but maybe they all are wrong and Rashmi is the messiah in Indian tv world! There are indeed many similarities between these two shows like anokha bro-sis bond, ls starting with a love-hate relationship, hero being a jaat and a dabang, even the name of hero's close friend. Being a well wisher of VV, I have always and will always want him to try totally different roles, each one should have absolutely nothing in common with any of his previous ones. If the Jaat in JKJ had been played by any other actor, then I have had nothing to say. But, since VV is playing that role, I would have preferred him to play an entirely different sort of role than either Baldev, Sagar or even Ayan. Or, if in the indian tv, it is not possible, then at least to give a break for few years before taking up similar roles so that people forget his previous roles to some extent by that time and don't start the comparison like this. And I am sorry, but I have never said that Baldev was perfect and VeeBa ls was either. And I do sincerely hope that unlike how as u said Veera had bcom unwatchable after a few months into post leap, this show would continue to entertain us till last.



You are not making sense to me right now. I mean you think that Vishal should take a break till he doesn't gets an entirely different character lol that's just so stupid.If he would have just sat down doing Baldev he wouldn't have been where he is right now.Its not about how much love his characters have got its about his growth as an actor which is tremendous and it has been possible only because he has been working continuously and the ultimate goal is bollywood where you can make it big without any connections only when you are talented so this whole thing of taking a break and all doesn't makes sense!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: sakshi14



You are not making sense to me right now. I mean you think that Vishal should take a break till he doesn't gets an entirely different character lol that's just so stupid.If he would have just sat down doing Baldev he wouldn't have been where he is right now.Its not about how much love his characters have got its about his growth as an actor which is tremendous and it has been possible only because he has been working continuously and the ultimate goal is bollywood where you can make it big without any connections only when you are talented so this whole thing of taking a break and all doesn't makes sense!


U got me all wrong. Anyways!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: rangan11



If you will read all the previous posts, u will see that it is not me but many others who have compared Bittu and Baldev and criticised the latter. I am a great fan of VV as well, so much so that only for him I have beared the pain of continuing to watch that crap show Gangaa till his last day in the show. I have never watched any Rashmi Sharma show, but have read many comments in which have expressed views against her shows in general, but maybe they all are wrong and Rashmi is the messiah in Indian tv world! There are indeed many similarities between these two shows like anokha bro-sis bond, ls starting with a love-hate relationship, hero being a jaat and a dabang, even the name of hero's close friend. Being a well wisher of VV, I have always and will always want him to try totally different roles, each one should have absolutely nothing in common with any of his previous ones. If the Jaat in JKJ had been played by any other actor, then I have had nothing to say. But, since VV is playing that role, I would have preferred him to play an entirely different sort of role than either Baldev, Sagar or even Ayan. Or, if in the indian tv, it is not possible, then at least to give a break for few years before taking up similar roles so that people forget his previous roles to some extent by that time and don't start the comparison like this. And I am sorry, but I have never said that Baldev was perfect and VeeBa ls was either. And I do sincerely hope that unlike how as u said Veera had bcom unwatchable after a few months into post leap, this show would continue to entertain us till last.




Lol why should Vishal take a long break and then return back so that people forget his past roles? Or for that matter any actor. That's so stupid 😆 And Vishal himself said in a recent interview how he cannot take breaks for long because he loves his work. He'll keep doing something or the other.
If he is getting good work so why not do it? I dont find any logic in whatever you wrote 😕
If people are comparing Bittu to Baldev or Sagar then that's their problem. Why should he bother about that & "take break for years" ? 😕
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Well since someone has said that EVKAV and JKJ have many similarities,I would beg to differ.

1.EVKAV was about a bond of unconditional love between a brother and a sister before the leap.After the leap,that bond became forced and was butchered.VeeBa's love story appealed to the audience because it was the only good thing about that show post leap.RanVeera's characters went downhill and their bond had lost its charm and RanJan had zero appeal.


Here we have JKJ.JKJ is not about the bro-sis bond.JKJ is Bittu and Munni's love story.The Bro Trio form the sub-plot not the main plot.JKJ is about Bittu who will fight all the odds for his love and Munni who discovers love in form of Bittu and how Bittu rescues Munni from the false world created by her Bro Trio.The Bro Trio are the villains in their love story.It's clear from Day 1.


2.BiNni's love story is different from VeeBa's love story in many ways.Firstly it's not the typical love-hate story.BiNni started on an unconventional note.Secondly as Rashmi Mam said it's about two people who are not made for each other but they literally defy the universe to be together.
VeeBa's love story was childhood rivalry which blossomed into love.


3.Personally I believe that an actor creates the characters not vice versa.A character becomes memorable because of the actor portraying it.Same goes for Baldev.Baldev became iconic because Vishal put his heart and soul into it.He turned Baldev from the regular bully to the most lovable character of the series.
It is due to his perforomance that the audience continued to watch Veera even after Baldev's character deteoriated.

Here Bittu is already a well written character.RS and team have created him after a lot of research.And RS chose Vishal to play Bittu because in her opinion no one could have played it better than him.I agree with her on this point.Vishal's portrayal of Bittu is outstanding.No one could have played this character apart from him.So Bittu's character is just another milestone for Vishal as an actor.



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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hard to choose!! But if I had to chose someone I chose Baldev. Simply because I know him better. But Vish as always is amazing in the role of Bittu. I didn't watch Ganga but checked out a few scenes just for Vishal. I didn't have the time to follow it.

Even now I don't have time but making the time just for Vishal. He is among my favourite Indian TV actors. I only have a few and he is one of them. He simply rocks! He always brings something to the character, and he really lives the character fully. I was always convinced with his performance in Veera as Baldev and the little I have seen of Bittu convinces me too. He has a great screen presence and dialogue delivery. Not everyone can pull off the different accents as well.


I find it a lot harder to follow the Harvanyi accent so sometimes have to keep going back and watching the scenes and listening harder. I am not Indian or of Indian origin, but I do understand Hindi quite well now. But Vishal is already amazing as Bittu!
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Mental_Manadhil




Lol why should Vishal take a long break and then return back so that people forget his past roles? Or for that matter any actor. That's so stupid 😆 And Vishal himself said in a recent interview how he cannot take breaks for long because he loves his work. He'll keep doing something or the other.
If he is getting good work so why not do it? I dont find any logic in whatever you wrote 😕
If people are comparing Bittu to Baldev or Sagar then that's their problem. Why should he bother about that & "take break for years" ? 😕


I meant to say that VV should take breaks before doing similar roles, I have not suggested that he should take break from work altogether. I may not be as intelligent as you, but I am not stupid as well to not realise how much important getting good work is to professional actors and to get acknowledgements too for their performance. I have only wished, that since VV is not only a good looking actor, but has tremendous acting potential, he should not stick to doing a romantic hero sort of role always. He himself had mentioned few years back that his dream role is that of a psycho! This is his specialty! There would be very few actors at his age who would want to do real acting staff, when there are easier ways to prove himself. Because of his acting genius he would make any role work, whether it is good/bad written, but he is capable of more!

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