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Posted: 10 years ago
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Aman's beating was ...satisfying...however I did feel bad when they all took turns beating him and uploaded his video online. That was a bit too far and I genuinely felt that Dr. Aman was beyond honorable when he said that seeing Nishi laughing caused all his pain to vanish. There is a fine line between friendly mocking an individual and mentally hurting an individual. Today I think the Patels crossed that line, it seemed that only Ragini was feeling ashamed for her behavior towards Dr. Aman. The rest were busy laughing and making jokes, like the audience they (sunny Thai, Nishi, agham, suhani,) all were quite annoyed that Aman was in between their Ragini and Neil. In the beginning of the show, I found it absolutely adorable how the children were playing little cupids for their parents. We wanted these children to play Cupid when the show first started however it's better late then never. Nevertheless, their intentions and beliefs towards dr. Aman were revealed right then, they do not view Aman as a human with emotions, rather only an obstacle which is why agham saying he should take sainyaas being to an extent humorous might actually be a forewarning. By forewarning I mean the children might do something un unusually cruel to dr. Aman to remove him from the equation however knowing drama serials he is going to stick around for a long time with no intentions of leaving Ragini and perhaps even taking revenge on the Patels for their mistreatment. Well, we can only hope that the Patels do not smother him in the process of uniting Ragini and Neil.

Now to the portion of the show where Ragini was massaging Dr. Aman's shoulders, did anyone notice how her eyes were downcast and her posture revealed that she herself was profoundly uncomfortable. It seemed like she was only doing this because it was required of her. Of course. The audience could infer that she did not want to and that Ragini was feeling even embarrassed doing it front of Neil. She couldn't meet his gaze, evident there was a little bit of guilt for hurting him, there was a little bit of shame for even touching dr. Aman, but there was a lot of denial as well. Refusal to admit any of her emotions, refusal of the fact that she still loved Neil, refusal of the fact that whatever Neil felt and thought of her affected her in any way. Regardless, Ragini is going keep this ehsaan wala relationship for a while so brace yourself guys.

Neil today was just... He's laughs in the beginning and then him crying in the end, it's his whole life summed up. He was so happy, he was teasing Ragini. Saying repeatedly how she hit Aman with the dhanda and he was just, all the jokes...I mean he was...wow. But to all of those who cried with him in the end, I was left immensely touched by his display of affections for Ragini. So far we've all seen him being cold towards Ragini after his return to india, he bottled up all his emotions and today they were bleeding out of him. The scene with badi nani was just amazing. He was crying his heart out, he was fed up and so tired. There was so much longing. He didn't understand why Ragini doesn't trust him, why all that he does falls short, why history is repeating himself, and why Ragini can't be his. To sum it up there was love but there wasn't trust. As I've previously stated, just because you love someone does not mean you understand them. Neil still fails to see where he went wrong and why Ragini still won't trust him. The reason being the incident with Aarav, even though Neil meant no harm, he still had lied and hidden Aarav's situation from Ragini. Indirectly he had broken Ragini trust. When you break someone's trust even once even without knowledge, no matter what you do it won't return to the same way it once was. Neil still has to learn this. He is hurt and he cannot see his fault in this.
Well we can hope that his confusion ends soon and he regains Ragini's trust. As for Ragini, we can hope she trusts him this time and realizes that a relationship like theirs is meant to be, and like badi nan said, we as the audience are not forgetting this anytime soon.

Sincerely A.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Great post once again!!
I agree the kids were being insensitive. The beating was alright in my opinion as they assumed aman to be a thief. In fact it was nice how they handled it as a family, each having his own solution and Neil handling everybody.
But the kids crossed the line when they came to know it was aman, with the uploading and all. Good that ragini made them apologise and I was happy that Neil himself apologised for the misunderstanding.

Yes, the kids see aman just as an obstacle and it is both right and wrong. Wrong because no matter what, the guy has stood beside their mom and helped her, both professionally and personally..he deserves some gratitude.
Right because we can't really blame the kids...they have been waiting for the family to unite all their life and now with the engagement, the dreams have become very distant.What makes it worse is the fact that they know that their mom doesn't love aman, the relationship is because of indebtness and aman's constant pestering.

They want their parents to unite, they can't because now aman is in the picture .
They wanted a family holiday, but aman tagged along and now their mother has to divide her time between aman and them...obviously they are irritated

And honestly, which child would be comfortable seeing a man hovering around his mother all the time, professing love and trying to take his father's position in the family, complicating things.

So here, more than the kids, we have to blame aman and NR. Aman for self-imposing himself everywhere, ragini for letting him do so knowing her kids would not be comfortable and Neil and ragini both for not accepting their feeling and reconciling.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Realistically your perspective is right but i have no sumpathy or soft corner for Aman anymore.He is forcing too much himself .He invited himself for the trip when nobody wanted,even Ragini was surprised when he said,"Main Bhi Chaloonga".
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Go 2 hell with ragini's trust yaar...I mean wat d hell...she is behavin like he is sum hardcore criminal..agreed dat he lied 2 her dat night and excuse me he did apologise for wat he did and also wanted 2 ammend things..but ragini till 2day is no mood 2 even consider it..wat ego yaar..dere is a sayin in hindi "dor ko itna bhi mat khicho ki rassi tooth jaye" dere is seriously a limit 2 evrythng..and pls ragini will knowingly not want 2 trust neil...she has taken an oath 2 do so..common yaar..also ragini can play with his emotions whenever she likes..wat abt d fake marriage drama and all d lies...ashaben can see neil's mistakes but cant correct her own daughter..not once has she told her dat she was wrong..ragini has alwys had doubts abt neil before marryin him.den why did u marry...and in d bargain ruined so many lives
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Originally posted by: Hiphop_R

Go 2 hell with ragini's trust yaar...I mean wat d hell...she is behavin like he is sum hardcore criminal..agreed dat he lied 2 her dat night and excuse me he did apologise for wat he did and also wanted 2 ammend things..but ragini till 2day is no mood 2 even consider it..wat ego yaar..dere is a sayin in hindi "dor ko itna bhi mat khicho ki rassi tooth jaye" dere is seriously a limit 2 evrythng..and pls ragini will knowingly not want 2 trust neil...she has taken an oath 2 do so..common yaar..also ragini can play with his emotions whenever she likes..wat abt d fake marriage drama and all d lies...ashaben can see neil's mistakes but cant correct her own daughter..not once has she told her dat she was wrong..ragini has alwys had doubts abt neil before marryin him.den why did u marry...and in d bargain ruined so many lives

Dear Hiphop_R.
Yes I do understand that you are highly irritated by Ragini's behavior towards Neil however a mistake is a mistake and apologies do not always fix it. Neil did apologize but if the damage is already done, what use is an apology. Yes I agree she is treating Neil like a criminal but do not fail to overlook the situation, her son went to jail for crying out loud. Of course she is going to be pissed at him and that too for a while. It is not ego rather the broken trust which is holding its grudge. As for her lying about her marriage and so on, yes she will suffer its consequences regardless. It's bound to ruin her sometime. However another person's mistake does not make your's any less. Neil still has made a mistake and he too will have to suffer its consequences regardless. Ragini has not sworn an oath never to forgive him, she simply cannot due to their history. The quote that you used is a brilliant example of pushing someone overboard however we as the audience knows that she will forgive him eventually but when the story advances towards a more mature plot and understanding between the two characters. Again I advise you not to hate anyone, I do realize that both characters have been butchered thoroughly by the writers however we can only hope that they regain themselves, be it Ragini or Neil. As well, both characters have made mistakes, both are at fault and patience and virtue is required here if we want to continue watching them both. It takes people time to recover and to realize mistakes, you have a problem with Ragini that she is a hypocrite and holding a useless grudge against Neil but if you go deeper into it and look at it from a mothers point of view, you won't be so disappointed. You'll see that her grudge is not useless, nor are her accusations, they are too much of extent truthful. You will find different answers and maybe you will see how they both fit together, with their faults.
Please do not take offense, I am simply trying to show you a different perspective to the same plot. If you still do not feel even the slightest bit better about Ragini's character after reading this, then I can only tell you to wait and hope for the better from the writers.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Regarding ragini's trust issues...like they say trust once broken is difficult to regain. And let's not forget, all of it happened too soon- ragini realised that Neil lied to help rupali and didn't clear up the misunderstanding for years, then she came to know that Neil hid about meeting rupali in US...she makes it clear to him that she likes to know the truth from him, no matter how bitter it is AND the next day Neil hides about aarav being in danger.
On top of that, things go really ugly with someone dying and aarav getting jailed.

Yes, Neil meant well and yes, he apologised...but this time it is their son's life which has been severely damaged...son that was her responsibility. It isn't that easy to forgive and forget.

I am not saying that ragini was never at fault...she too has made mistakes. Her speech at the court was badly worded, with her accusing him of not loving her and aarav. The fake marriage and engagement have both been blunders from her side. Add to it not meeting aarav in jail due to her lack of courage.

But I still maintain that Neil should realise his mistakes( I don't think that he really thinks that he was wrong, the apology at the court was just to calm down ragini) and stop repeating the same mistake with the other kids. This is why I want ranbir, suhani and agham facing problems, so that he self-realises his follies as a father.
And the moment Neil starts rectifying, I am sure he will be forgiven. This is what would break ragini this time and make her confess about her feelings.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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JB...I absolutely agree 2 all dat u say but at d end of it we react 2 wats being served 2 us..forget d butchering of characters..im not sayin dat neil has not made mistakes.ofcourse he has...but all dat is expected from ragini is a bit of cooperation and support which tyme and again she just refuses 2 give..I mean both of u committed a mistake 15 yrs back and both repented big tyme..den dere was a period where dey both spoke their heart out and dey know dey luv each other so much..I mean ragini realised his luv for her so much..den why??? Agreed dat aarav went 2 jail and ragini has full ryte to behave dat way but for how long..if he was sentenced for life time..den she would leave him dat way only sayin he deserves punishment...ok u can be stern with neil.but atleast try 2 sort out d issue with him..she refused dat also.
I mean dis has 2 stop sumwhere yaar...neil and ragini both are at faults.but ragini behavin as if 2 say no ammendments can be done at all and her character does not show luv for neil at all..sorry boss but really am not fully convinced with ragini's behaviour
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Originally posted by: JB-US



Now to the portion of the show where Ragini was massaging Dr. Aman's shoulders, did anyone notice how her eyes were downcast and her posture revealed that she herself was profoundly uncomfortable. It seemed like she was only doing this because it was required of her. Of course. The audience could infer that she did not want to and that Ragini was feeling even embarrassed doing it front of Neil. She couldn't meet his gaze, evident there was a little bit of guilt for hurting him, there was a little bit of shame for even touching dr. Aman, but there was a lot of denial as well. Refusal to admit any of her emotions, refusal of the fact that she still loved Neil, refusal of the fact that whatever Neil felt and thought of her affected her in any way. Regardless, Ragini is going keep this ehsaan wala relationship for a while so brace yourself guys.



I for one am done with interpreting Ragini's expressions and gestures as per my own liking to satisfy and calm myself. It really feels good to assume all that you have said that maybe Ragini feels guilty for hurting Nachiket.
But has she said it herself? No. She on the other hand has been behaving and saying the opposite of what we assume from her facial gestures. Maybe its because of denial like you have said and refusal to accept her emotions for him. But why is it that her denial keeps coming and going? In the scene with Vidy Balan she was quite clear when she said she loves N. In the first episode post leap she quite clearly mentioned Aman is not her happiness but she'll still have it that way than Nachiket. So Ragini's conscious choice is Aman & her behavior towards him.

Ragini has to act and say it all aloud for me to believe she feels bad for hurting N with Aman and her relationship and that she is not comfortable with getting close to Aman.

Nachiket publicly puts up a brave front pretending he doesnt care about Ragini but when alone he did express his true feelings. Cannot Ragini do the same? When alone, she could also be shown to be feeling guilty for hurting Nachiket. But she wont because she doesnt care anymore. Right now she is too blinded by her hate for him and she cannot seem to see beyond her own hurt caused by him.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Absolutely for how long will we assume ragini's feelings...really irritated yaar..one sided crap
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hiphop_R

Absolutely for how long will we assume ragini's feelings...really irritated yaar..one sided crap


By now .. I'm sure .. Whatever maybe .. It's always .. poor Nachiket who will fall for her .. Ragini can stay like a Princess .. She has so many choices .. Aman .. Babu Bhai ..

I really wished .. this time around .. Ragini would fall for him .. But it's going to be the same pre-leap .. Nachiket trying all tricks in the trade .. to WIN her back ..

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