This Show Is Hitting Rock Bottom.......

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This Show Is Hitting Rock Bottom...And not just rock bottom...it has dig a hole in land and has gone sooo deep there ...that it has even found oil and ab usmein doob raha hain...agar isse neeche bhi hota hain ...toh wahan pahuch gaya hain by god...such a lovely concept it was...something unique and what it has ended up into...i will just take the main conversation into consideration...i have questions on each line they said...

Nachiket -Tumne ranbir ko bhi yahan bualaya hain...aagham aur suhaani tak toh theek tha...par ranbir ...pichli saari baatein yaad aayengiii...phir bhiii....
Okay she hates him...he hates her ...atleast thats what they assume ...what they try to showww...then why she even expects him to be sensitive towards her and not bring ranbir with him ???????Whyyy ????i want an answer ????And ranbir isnt a child ...he is a grown up guy who will actually turn a monster soon if not controlled ...and knowing how careless nachiket is as a father ...why she assumes that ranbir actually tells about his whereabouts to his father...his father has let him enjoyyy...let him enjoyyy yaar...and if you dont want that...step in then...handle your bigda hua/biagada hua son ...and try to take him on the right path...complaining and cribbing wont solve anything...
Nachiket -Calm down , calm down , maine nahi bulaya ranbir ko .Main jaanta bhi nahi hoon ki woh yaha kab aaya aur na maine aagham aur suhaani ko yahan bulaya.
Lol he genuinely feels he sounds so good while making such statements ...his children are shifting countries and he has no idea about it ...wowww...imagine the children shifting countries and fall in some problem in some country and aren't able to reach him but need help genuinely...than he will not even be able to track them because he doesn't even cares to know where they are and he is so chilled about it ...wohooo...and the ideal father in the show ...who is kept above a mother who is way better than him . .
Ragini-Ofcourse nachiket ...aagham suhani yaha aaye ..tumhein pata nahiii...ranbir yaha aaya hain...tumhein pata nahi hain...
i must say ab tak woh thak gayi hogi ye sun sunkar...is aadmi ko kabhi kuch pata nahi hota...his answer is always this...and she always feels jhooth bola rah hain...please understand your ex-husband is a careless soul ...when it comes to kids whereabouts ...and to everything you ask about . He genuinely never knows anything ...never ...
Nachiket -Are nahi pata toh nahi pata naaa...jab main bol raha hoon ki nahi pata...toh nahi pataaa...tum mano ya na manooo...mujhe koi farak nahi padhta
this is like making a joke of yourself ...convincing your wife that i had no idea that my children were travelling and changing countries...i must say ragini will actually fire him if she someday realizes that he is genuinely clueless always ...but she is hell bent on proving that he knows everything and does it intentionally and then asks himmm...whyyy whyyy...
Ragini-Tumhein kyun farak padegaaa...nuksaan toh mera hota hain na ...mera beta jail mein hain...ranbir tohhh....
yeh ragini ne sachai keh diii...usse kyun faraq padega bhai...rona toh ragini ke liye hain...he is just there to make her life more miserable ...and after making her life miserable...he will pack his bags and run away like always ...but mujhe samajh yeh nahi aata...ki ragini jaanti hain ki ranbir galat hain...but usse sahi karne ki jagah ...she is hating on him...woh beta hain tumhara yaar...instead of hating him...she needs to start taking some measures for god sake...dont depend on nachiket for that...woh bacho ko bigadne ke liye hain bas ...usse toh abhi yeh tak na samjh aaya ki uske pyaare ranbir ki koiii galti bhi hain...
Ranbir-Ranbir toh kya...ranbir toh kyaaa
as if... if he will shout like that...ranbir ka dosh kam ho jayega...i hate such men who shout for no reasons ...aarav is in jail for having an illegal gun and shooting ...his shoot was his self defence and that illegal gun was brought by his ranbir...i know ragini is responsible too ...cause as a mother , its her duty to actually handle ranbir when she did got he is going all wrong ...she tried a bit and then backed off...she shouldn't have backed off and handled things...should have taken things to her hand ...but nachiket ke toh kya kehne..he still believes ranbir ne kuch nahi kiya ...he is doodh ka dhulaaa...god somebody put some brains in his head ...it all happened in front of him... ...
Nachiket - Aarav jail mein hain uski zimmedaar tum ho
Wahhh Wahhh..its like ulta chor kotwal ko daatein...lol...sooo arav ke jail mein hone ki wajah ragini hain ...because she was the one who encouraged her for business at such an age ...than gave her money secretly from nachiket ...she was the one whose engagement arav was planning and took money from bhai because no advance was given...she was the one who told her son to run to mud house when he came all wounded and asked for help and went on a dinner with love of her life herself...she was the one who lied to nachiket about everything ...she was the one who showed attitude to bhai and risked arav's life...she was the one who gifted another son a revolver at such an age...its all herrr faulttt...realllyyy....
Nachiket- Maine kaha tha tumse ki mujhe thoda samay do , main sab kuch sort out kar doonga ...lekin nahiii
And i can actually laugh at this man ...is he mad or what ?????So helping aarav if he ever wanted to was dependent on if ragini will allow him or not ??????? He didn;t try saving his son after being partially responsible for his condition...and he blames ragini that she didnt listen to his advice...thus son is in jail...
Nachiket- Tum chahthi thi ki usse apni galti ki saza mileee...woh bhukteee
haan ofcourse ek maa jisne apne bache ko 15 saal tak apniii jaan lagakar paala...woh bas yahi toh chah sakti hain...she is a mother...she was the most effected with arav thing ...i somehow feel later we will see this engagement thing also done cause of something related to her kids only ...her kids are her everything ...if she felt arav should be punished...thats just because she wants her son to learn from his mistakes...and not learn that he can go free even after committing mistakes ...for her ranbir deserved punishment .as well...and she is righttt...
Ragini-Ofcourse...galti ki hain toh saza toh bhugatni padegi na...ismein meri kya galti hain
omg...kisse samjha rahi ho aur kya samjha rahi ho...for him this also doesnt matters...nothing matters yaar ...woh rishwat deke chudwa leta bete ko ...woh bhi agar tum kehti toh...warna uska thodi koi relation hain arav ke saath...
Nachiket- Tumhari hi galti hain ismein...jab dekho tab tumhaare asoolll...tumhare adarshhh...ussi ki galti hainnn ...
Asool aur adarsh bhi galat hote hain...yeh main pehli baar sun rahi hoon...
Nachiket- Hamesha yeh asool nahi chalte hain ...hamesha dimaag se nahi , kabhi kabhi dil se bhi soachna padhta hain ...
Morals are related to heart as well...and morals are truly important in life...asool zindagi mein bahut mainee rakhte hain...woh insaan ko banate hain and as she said hain woh assoolon ki pakki toh...???...asool adarsh kisi ko galat nahi bana dete ...i wish he could understand ...
Nachiket- Lekin tum kya dil se soachogiii...dil hain tumhare paas
awww ...such an innocent question...and i wish to ask him ...tumhare paas hain dil ???/ joh yeh sab us maa ko bol rahe ho jisne apni poori zindagi apne bacho ke liye laga di...unhein kabhi kisi cheez ki kami na hone di...tumhare paas hain dil ki tum apne bete ko jail mein chodkar bhag khade huye ...tumhare paas hain dil ki tumhein jab tumhari patni ne ye batane ke liye phone kiya ki tumhari beti ko tumhari jarurat hain, toh tum usse is baat par jhagadne lage ki woh prove kya karna chahthi hain...you really have a heart ...Mr. Nachiket Khanna...
Nachiket - Nahiii hain...isiliye toh tum apne bacho ki achi maa nahi ban paayi kabhiii ...kyonki tum unki nahi duniya ki maa ban na chahthi ho...MOTHER INDIA ...
This was epic...i will not go in detail...but .i never saw ragini being mahaan duniya ke saamne ...balki i have seen her making herself look bad in front of duniya to save her daughter future ...where did that thought even came from ??????/...its like kuch bhi bolna hain ...she has a set of morals unlike you Mr. MCP , doesn't means she doesnt love her children...And this just tells how less he knows her and how they arent actually made for each other...this is what he feels ...she tries being MOTHER INDIA ...wow...that was the biggest shock i could get,
Nachiket - Hamesha apne aap ko thopna chahthi ho logo par ...chahthi ho ki tum jaisa chaho ...waise log kareee...lekin aisa hota nahi hain ragini ...sab ki apni zindagi hoti hain , waise nahi chalegi jaise tum chalana chahthi hooo...you understand
okay like ragini has a problem...she always thinks he is lying ...he has this problem...he always thinks she wants to force herself on people which isnt truth at all...when have she forced herself on him ??????and if he is talking about her children...than she was actually right in both cases ...and thats not called forcing ...that's thinking good for your children...and each loving parent does that...they dont leave thier kids changing countries like youuu...
Nachiket - Duniya ko jatana chahthi ho ki tum duniya ki sabse achi maa ho, duniya ki sabse adarsh maa ho...upright..righteous ...hmmm ...lekin apne hi bachon ko apne se door kar diya tumneee
She never tried jatana stuff till date...i dont even know where it came from...its total bakwaasss...and she isn't responsible for driving her kid away from her ...its nachiket , the responsible oneee...always interfering ...always giving wrong advices ...
Nachiket - Aaj tumhari zindagi se juda koi bhi khush nahi hain...ye tumhari galti hainn
Naaa...yeh galti sirf aur sirfff nachiket khanna ki hain ...because you supported nishi marriage and arav's business ...ragini's mistake is she let it go out of her hands and let you make a decision...one in angerr and hurt ...and the other in some stupid trust...
Nachiket-Aaj apni zindagi se tum khush nahi ho , yeh tumhari galti hain ......
yeh baat isne sahi kahi hain ...because she was the one who eliminated him from her life and her happiness actually lies with him ...so for not being happy ...its ragini responsible ...
Nachiket -Aaj agar tumhari zindagi mein koi khushi nahi hain ...toh woh tumhari galti hain ...toh please apni galtiyon ka tokra mere sar mat rakho...okay,...deal with it yourself ...
completely disagree with this...he never realize his mistakes and blames her for all ...typical MCP ...


okay that was ittt...i am done with my ranting ...feeling relaxed...i need a breakkk...okayyy...coming again...i know i appear biased towards ragini because i truly feel ...only mistake she has done is that stupid engagement ...else she been right mostly while i simple cant say the same about nachiket . He has been making so many mistakes and on the top of it ...he don''t even realize it . I am done with this show if this is how this show gonna proceed . I want respect for a mother who spent her life for her kids in kids and in everyone's eyes and this father to be a little bit more responsible about his kids whereabouts , his advises , his actions and everything . Ronit sir is the saving grace of nachiket ...had he not been playing this character ...this character was the biggest disaster ...people still stick with this character all for him .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Hey dear... your ranting not only made you feel relax but reading you made me relax too, as if you gave words to the problems most of us here have with the characters...
Your each and every questions is valid but Alas we have some genius kind of writer who won't bother to realize what she writes in the first place let alone answer them ... and then her Ghajni syndrome is such a blessing to her that she immediately forgets what she wrote just a scene back , hence we see no connection at all between the two conversations...

Agree to each and every point of yours ... but its just that when Nachiket said that "you separated your kids" may be he was referring to Ragini's decision of dividing the kids at the time of divorce , which still by any means is not at all expected out of a mother. Plus neither CVs have given us any good reason for that decision of Ragini still nor they plan to do since they have no reason to justify this brutal decision... no mother on earth can take such decision. Yes people get separated and divorced, they divide the custody of kids too, younger ones go with mother normally but whatever decision they take they never sign a petition to never see the other set of kids ever, the way they showed in serial... how can they not bother themselves with what the other set of kids must be doing all these 15 long years? Not at all natural ... I know in few cases we have fathers like this, the things are little different when it comes to them but for mother there is no other equation, she simply can't forget her kids this easily, and that they showed in start too... Sunny Tai telling about how she bakes cakes on their birthdays, buy similar stuff for Aagham, saving money separately for the two boys... but that all latter went in vain as when finally they all met due to Nishi's wedding their was no bonding between kids and parents at all...

Rest for Nachiket Khanan and all his dialogues you just wrote everything so apt, can't agree more... Its just RR who is grabbing what ever audience is left to support Nachiket otherwise CVs have perfectly butchered this character not just as a father but as a lover and a man himself...

and now it is Ragini's turn so we see her hating Ranbir thoroughly ... I mean seriously!!! which mother acts this way?? First she separated this boy from her at very young age... his jurt must have given way to his anger and hatred for his mom, that we all witnessed when he met her first and during the whole wedding period... but then we had Ragini who as a mother never tried to mend things with her own son! Why??? because of that stupid deal of not interfering in Neil's set of kids that they made at the time of divorce! This is insane... no mother does that... and then we have the sweetest of BG song played on Ragini-Ranbir scene to help us make connect with no effort from the characters themselves.

So its not their fault actually... its immaturity of writer who thinks these relations are so superficial and insensitive teh way she portrays them in her serial , story or whatever she calls it...

101% agree to your this part

" I want respect for a mother who spent her life for her kids in kids and in everyone's eyes and this father to be a little bit more responsible about his kids whereabouts , his advises , his actions and everything "

The way writer has made joke of a mother , single and independent , I simply detest NB for this .
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Posted: 10 years ago
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I completely agree with all your claims made. I do feel that Neil is more at fault here than Ragini and it is rather he who is blaming all his mistakes and questionable upbringing of his children on ragini. Today I really felt that he had no right to say all those hurtful remarks to ragini. If you analyzed his argument which you did, much if what he said was unreasonable and made very little sense. It seemed that he was just venting his anger out for her getting engaged to dr. Aman. That is why he repetitively mentioned to her that she was responsible for her misery and so on for the purpose that he wanted her to feel bad that she excluded him from her world. He wanted to her to feel incomplete as he does without her. However he fails to understand why ragini parted ways with him, his own irresponsibility towards aarav and failing to prioritize his decisions with a bit of male ego led to Ragini's decision. He cannot continue to blame ragini because her only mistake seems to be her engagement to dr. Aman at this moment. I do not see many errors on her apart, much of she did was explainable as a mother. I genuinely feel that many are misunderstanding Ragini and agreeing with Neil because due to the actor playing the character. It seems that he is making the character work however the fault in the character cannot go unnoticed. Ragini learned to trust Neil again and he broke her trust the same day. She was not wrong, much of what she said outside of court was right. While she does have her faults and made her share of errors, she is a strong woman who does not run away from her problems, she tries to face them, and Neil's arrival does make her life harder. There is a limit to what she can face, she has given up her everything to face ingratitude from her children and questionable honesty from her husband. She needs a break.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Not hitting, the Show has HIT rock bottom!
There is nothing left.

Agree with your rantings totally, and the views expressed by you.

The doodh ke dhuley huye Nachiket Khanna cannot do anything wrong, cos he is HOT. He is such an MCP that he cannot see anything beyond his big, fat ego - the ego that is now supremely hurt that R has decided to move on. I don't support R at all for this engagement thing. No, I have no issues if she had taken this decision in those 15 years or so, but what I can't relate to is that she took the decision when her son is in jail, irrespective of whose fault it is.

And Nachiket - he is just a piece of work. He feels that he deserves to be let off everything because he had loved Ragini, at some point of time. Some thing that he is always right. Just because his share of kids are not in any visible mess, doesn't mean that he is the perfect Dad. He owes it to another woman for his children being bought up sensibly.

Yesterday, when Suhaani and Aagham asks Ranbir to meet everybody and go, Ranbir is contemplative of how his Mother will receive him. Does this show a hint of recognition of the mess to which he was a part?

And here Nachiket, being a pig headed man, kept on screaming at Ragini how it was her fault that Aarav is in jail.

Really?

Aarav is in jail because of Ragini?

I know there are certain liberties associated with creativity, but this? Is N suffering from some mental meltdown?

Has he forgotten the following -

That he had encouraged Aarav to start his own business, without finishing his studies?

That he had taken Aarav's responsibility and left him out in the run when the time came?

That he did not share with R what Aarav felt about her, even though he was aware of it?

That he had given money to Aarav to start, even without having a word with Ragini? Agreed, Aarav is his son as well. But if NR had made a pact not to interfere in the lives of the children that the other had, the least he could do was respect the pact and speak to the Mother, who is morally responsible for the child?

He himself is not aware of what is happening in the lives of his children, they are shifting countries. And here, he is pointing fingers at others.

Such a loser character.

And yes, Ragini is no better. But N takes the cake, baker and the bakery.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: JB-US

I completely agree with all your claims made. I do feel that Neil is more at fault here than Ragini and it is rather he who is blaming all his mistakes and questionable upbringing of his children on ragini. Today I really felt that he had no right to say all those hurtful remarks to ragini. If you analyzed his argument which you did, much if what he said was unreasonable and made very little sense. It seemed that he was just venting his anger out for her getting engaged to dr. Aman. That is why he repetitively mentioned to her that she was responsible for her misery and so on for the purpose that he wanted her to feel bad that she excluded him from her world. He wanted to her to feel incomplete as he does without her. However he fails to understand why ragini parted ways with him, his own irresponsibility towards aarav and failing to prioritize his decisions with a bit of male ego led to Ragini's decision. He cannot continue to blame ragini because her only mistake seems to be her engagement to dr. Aman at this moment. I do not see many errors on her apart, much of she did was explainable as a mother. I genuinely feel that many are misunderstanding Ragini and agreeing with Neil because due to the actor playing the character. It seems that he is making the character work however the fault in the character cannot go unnoticed. Ragini learned to trust Neil again and he broke her trust the same day. She was not wrong, much of what she said outside of court was right. While she does have her faults and made her share of errors, she is a strong woman who does not run away from her problems, she tries to face them, and Neil's arrival does make her life harder. There is a limit to what she can face, she has given up her everything to face ingratitude from her children and questionable honesty from her husband. She needs a break.


@ Bold - you totally nailed it.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agree with you ...well worded post...what more can I add...
hoping for NB to be more creative so that the show makes more
sense.

For this:

" I want respect for a mother who spent her life for her kids in kids and in everyone's eyes and this father to be a little bit more responsible about his kids whereabouts , his advises , his actions and everything "


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I agree with ur post Tm. Very well written. NB had a perfect story / plot she could have handled it very well. But unfortunately she failed as a CH. Neil's outburst was uncalled for ..He has absolutely no right just like she is given no rights when it comes to RANBIR. Neil is a fraud in my opinion. He didn't even raise his KIDS...just saying it was PAM who did the needful.


Edited by Dimdim. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Agreed tHeshowhas hit rock bottom!no one here is following irregularly and why should we... Nothing new or creative coming up in this show. If i can't bear to watch but still stop by to read updates and see if there's any improvement but lately I see the activity here has dropped too and why shouldn't it!
So sad to see Ekta K has some creative seeds for her stories but the caretakers (CVs) she appoints to her seedlings are shamefully egotistical to see their brown thumbs (read lack of creativity) kills the story before it can ever blossom.

True for most Ekta K shows but at the moment the worst is this one!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Very well written Surbhi. Though the things have changed little after last episode but couldn't agree more this part

I want respect for a mother who spent her life for her kids in kids and in everyone's eyes and this father to be a little bit more responsible about his kids whereabouts , his advises , his actions and everything .


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Posted: 10 years ago
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I think its beyond repair now.

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