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Posted: 12 years ago
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Wonderful post as ever Priya. I wonder how you keep that positivity every time in every episode. Me having B+ve blood sometimes go haywire sweetzz. Kudos to you and putting that poignant moments (Bro-Sis, Anji-Snake) in such a beautiful manner.👏👏

Bro-Sis..Duo - Beautiful relationship:
  • This is poignant scene today and I would say well thought scene, where they are trying their best to redeem Anjali back. Are they?? Not totally yes but a stepping stone indeed.
  • Touching scene with Arnav asking his Di to tie the Rakhi to seek strength from his Di so that he can destroy the evil from her life. And also at the same time telling her and re-assuring her that her happiness is still most important for him and he will do everything to protect her and her happiness.
  • From Arnav side it was brilliant and it was beautiful and how a brother strives for her sister happiness and alwayzz protects her was depicted so beautifully. And BS subtle acting and that voice modulation and expressions elevated the scene to next level for me👏👏
  • From Anjali side..to be honest, I kind of lost whenever she says something nowadays. Earlier it used to go and touch my heart, but now it kind of disconnected. How can a person be so delusional??
  • "Zindagi mein aisa Kabhi ho ki maine aapko chott pahunchaaayii..."..."aisa nahi ho sakta...ho hi nahi sakta"...oh Anjali...come on speak the truth when ur chotey is so emotional and straightforward. I was mainly disconnected of this dialogue...she was indeed hurt or may be atleast upset when chotey thrown her hubby out of house without any proof. She also felt that after marriage..she kind of felt that she is not been taken care by his chotey as pehle...then how can you say "aisa ho nahi sakta.."???
  • CVs plzz tell me...understood you changed track from that snake thrown out of house and miscarriage stuff, but when u r connecting dots it shld be clean.. I wld have loved if she had said something like " hum jaante hain chotey..ki aap muje jaan poochke kabhi choth nahi pahunchaayi...humeh aap pe bharosa hain ki aap jo bhi karte hain humaari khushi ke liye kartein hain"..something like that wld have worked as earlier they showed dilemma of Anjali thinking of no proofs against her hubby and also cannot say that her chotey is wrong.
  • She hugging Khushi..hoye kab se ye dilema hain mera mann mein that what Snake had told Anjali that she believes that "He is misunderstood by her family and yet she welcomes Khushi with whole heart".
  • Until this is cleared for me I think I will not be able to connect to it and redeeming Anjali in eyes of viewers will be an uphill task.
Arhi - Krishna and Arjun
  • Thinking about this since you pointed it to geeta verses. For me Khushi is not krishna and ASR is not Arjun...they are constantly interchanging their places .
  • "Na pyaar jataa dushamn se...jaao Yudh karo..."..they are saying to each other when one gets weakened due to relationships since 2 days.
  • Each one coming to others support..when one becomes weak and shear down. When one feels weak the other will become the strength.
  • The way Khushi consoled Arnav or the way Arnav did her favorite things to jst bring back smile on her face as she was tensed up with all this whole shyam fiasco. The way he held her trembling hand today ensuring that everything will be alright.
  • In Anjali's room too playing exactly same...when Arnav forgot Khushi remembered when Khushi misplaced Arnav corrected it. They are for each other and working as a perfect team.
  • Bas that newly wed couple romance is missing😆...hopefully when Snake is thrown out we will get that.
Snake at his best😆 and Anji darling...😆😉

  • Jab wahi cheez hum pe aaye to darr lagta hain...😆😆. How dare he shouts nowdays on poor ranishahiba ...how dare he😡
  • Me doing dhinka chika for today's great Shyam revelation
  • Surprise gift worth 3 lakh ka mangalsutra🤣..ye to sirf snakewaa hi soch sakta hain🤣🤣🤣 and Anjali you are so generous to give away ur bro's hard earned money with a a tip of 2 lakh extra for acting as ur hubby😲
  • Ab pata chala Snake ne bachha kyun girwaadiya...because of 'pedophobia' - fears babies🤣
  • And also you closed every damn curtain and door to talk to urself and look at the cheque🤣🤣🤣
  • No wonder yahi apne aap mein baat karna ka disease hi aapko pakadwaayega aaj..pehle aise kyun dhikha rahe hain meine nahi samjaa..I was also pissed of that why nobody hears you when u talk with urself..ab samaj mein aaya ki we need speakers which Arhi placed to listen the same.
  • Abhaas u r a brillaint actor no doubts...but last baby crying scene was like u said priya at the line of OTT
Edited by Sunshine80 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Amazing analysis ...Loved the 5 lakhs and 5 senses equation...:)...
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Posted: 12 years ago
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i promise. i promise to love you and protect you, your happiness means more to me than all else.



bless me. bless me that i may never fail to keep you safe, to restore you, to rejoice in you.



tie me to my duty, my sister. tie me with your love. tied we are by memory of the same, the shared womb.

of brothers... of promises... priya, that's a poignant take on an episode that moved. yes, iss pyaar ko has explored some beautiful and different loves. the most central ones: love between a man and a woman and love between a brother and a sister. yesterday focused on the latter; while the other love got included in, as that most interesting process of becoming family got going. and it was executed with heart and knowledge and ken, by all involved. without too much of fanfare and big words, ipk has shown us again and again what being family means. what relationships are really all about.

i absolutely loved the quote calling our siblings the "keepers of our identity," they indeed are. i grew up with two brothers, the irritated elder sister, wishing they'd leave me alone. yet, along the way grew a love and a possessiveness that i sometimes can't explain to myself. i noticed this is reciprocated by the siblings.

interesting that connection you make between 5 lakhs and 5 senses. anjali is actually very perceptive with a sharp sixth sense when it comes to her brother. the only time i recall this not being evident was when he was kidnapped, and we all kept remarking on it. wonder why that sense has not been functioning when it comes to shyam? is it because she doesn't really feel him with her heart but with her need? and that interferes with intuitive thought?

will be back later to update. thanks so much for that heartfelt analysis.

update

sorry, i'm a bit like a kid with a toy about those caps. just got introduced to photobucket, can't stop playing and changing things. still hoping to find a decent (read easy) collage maker.

when i think of last evening, what leaps out is the inspired acting by an actor who was here by chance. over the past week we have seen him prepare for no less than war. he knows this war is not going to be easy for anybody, least of all for the person whose security and happiness this is being fought for. so, straight after bringing his wife home post a long drawn out battle with his deepest nemesis, he readies himself again. true to character, arnav singh raizada thinks of those he loves before he thinks of himself. in fact, in these months we've known him, only once has he asked for something, for someone, for himself. his khushi, tumhare bina jee nahin paaoonga.

last evening, he set aside his troubles and worries to make his wife, one of the two most important people in his life, feel comfortable. and that was beautiful, in a light all its own, set aside like a jewel in the episode.

this morning, it is time to reassure the other most important person, his di. the younger brother who from the age of 14 has been his elder sister's rakshak - because, meine himmat dikhai - knows what devastation is about to visit his sister. he is feeling terrible for her. and for himself. that he should have to bring this about. that he would be the destroyer of her dream world. he knows there is no other way, he takes full responsibility. his wife has helped him focus on this truth every time the emotions have got the better of him. she is right, so is he. if only being right were a little more easy.

he sees his sister gathering flowers, for puja of course. ever so gently he leads her to a place where they've often sat together before. here it was by the water that she had told him of her theory that he will one day meet the woman whose absence will make him feel "humaari saansey ruk jaaygi." he had laughed that day.

today, tears struggled near his throat somewhere wanting to pour out.


he had come to tell her he would always be there for her, no matter what. and also take her blessings for the fight most vile about to unfold. looked to me like an arjun had come to a gandhari for her to empower him with her love. whether it was or not, the power of mythology was in every second of that scene. the brother choking on his words, tender and caring of his oblivious childlike sister, holding his box full of strings that promised unending love and raksha. the more he felt all the hurt and horror, the less she understood. believe me, i will always protect you, it is my duty to take care of you, but if i should ever hurt you...

you'd never hurt me. you'd never hurt me.she refused to hear anything as was her wont. he held out his arm and said, though this is not the right time, please tie that rakhi for me today. what a neat little idea, a simple thread, organic, perishable, yet for centuries signifying a brother's undying commitment to his sister, to protect her honour and happiness, to love her.

today he needed to feel that thread around his wrist, both for her and for him. i could see him getting lost in that pain. the very thought of hurting his sister with the truth about her murdering, philandering husband was swamping him. he struggled to overcome it. yet she didn't feel his unspoken words. how strange, she felt nothing. and every time she missed the cue, his fear grew, his pain increased.

what a fabulous touch when right toward the end, when khushi had already strolled into the scene, we hear him not being able to stop, a note of panic in his whole demeanour. the what ifs of the situation are such.

then khushi took charge. and di, blissfully unaware shut both of them up with a very elder sister like "enough" and pulled them into a hug. elder sister like. but is she really.



i was pulled right into the scene way before that. somewhere around the time he walked up to her with that characteristic measured, slightly swaying walk and held her hand to lead her to the chairs by the poolside. a difficult scene, to convey real emotion without becoming maudlin, without losing the character of the cool clipped arnav singh raizada, without letting anyone feel it was only glycerine. barun sobti has said he finds it difficult to cry. watching him yesterday, it was difficult for me not to howl, especially when the tears almost spilled out and he swallowed hard, and then when he couldn't just stop saying things.

can anyone teach this kind of acting? or maybe that's what they get to learn at bpo's?

it has become hard to connect to anjali. thanks, of course, to that introduction of a selfish, underhand streak in the character during the return of shyam phase. personally, i have no problem accepting complexity. i can even live with arnav loving her no matter what her flaws. that's how family is usually loved, especially siblings. i thought, initially, that when he finds out about her sneaky meetings with shyam or of her unnecessary coldness toward khushi, he might be upset. i was wrong, this man will forgive his sister these things, his love is big enough to overlook all that. he will know, she has her not so nice sides but will not respect or nurture or need her any less. he knows how blind her love is, but he has never judged her. what he said in that mandir is true: you are my world, di; for the rest of the world i'm khadoos, but you mean everything to me.

to connect back to anjali, i personally will need the creatives to lead her back through the right gates and path. doesn't mean she has to become all sweetness and light, but does need her to look at all she has done and how she has viewed things and then come to a better place. this character has many possibilities, but a quick fix won't work. her smiling words at the wedding: these people's love is way above all that, left me utterly cold. and i do have a problem with someone recovering from a miscarriage quite so quickly and without a single trace of sadness anywhere. there are many inconsistencies in the narrative, especially about her shards of glass torn feet, the electric shock, her reaction to garimaji, etc., i'm sure they can be resolved if the way back to a more sympathetic anjali is wise.

the rest of the episode didn't make much of a mark, so i won't go there. just that, the writing for shyam and the direction/acting is feeling a bit loud and filmi and not too clever. i understand the connection between khushi and asr is being further established, a sort of equal status being given to both the characters in terms of their strength, purity, purpose, etc. sometimes i feel the handling is too obvious, but that's ok, as long as i get a few minutes to get lost in, not complaining at all.

only, please bring back mamaji or at least mention him once 😆and someone give nk a big hug from another buaji type. ready with my veil and huma hoon do.
Edited by indi52 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Arnav_Khushifan

Hi Priya,

Thanks for continuing with the crooner!!! Once again a beautiful write up. I probably sound like a broken record but Here goes My day is not over until I get to read your crooner. You bring so much positivity to the forum and I especially love the way you defend Barun and the rest of the cast. And your quote about sisters, so true. I should know I have been blessed with an incredible younger sister. Looking forward to the rest of the week. I know it is going to be incredible.

Thankss soo much dear...thats so sweet of you...I guess the main reason we here for the love of the show and the package that it comes with 😊
I have no sister...and always longed for one...that quote was on a collage my brother gifted me...so its nice to be a Sister always to a brother...whose name is Arnab...but still I have missed having a sister too !!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Amazing Crooner Priya 🤗...Being a only child, brother-sister bond always fascinates me...Arnav-Anjali scenes always make me emotional 😭 ..todays episode was nice buildup for upcoming storm ...I wish this track finishes soon and we get some romance uninterrupted 😳
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Beautiful darling!!

FIRST U GO GET A CHEQUE FROM 4LIONS!!! u make any avg episode SEEM so beautiful here anytime,,n if the episode was already good u make it extraordinary at the crooner!! I luv that!! thus I come n read crooner of all the episode analysis POSTS.

yes with bro-sis angle yesterday's episode was beautiful, I loved Anjali's hug with Arhi, the rakhi scene n those dialogues

I luv all your caps!

waise i say that mangal sutra was for 300 Rs,,I refuse to believe that it costed the slimy 3Lakhs!😆

Btw,,, the baby crib... was out,, yet abhi no on found the will papers...yaad aya bas !

After Barun & Sanaya its only Karan I look fwd to watch in IPK,,,Abhaas at the end,,OMG!!!it was hilarious shot! 🤣

Looking fwd to the karz revelation! 😉

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btw I luv the title!
Edited by UltimateBarun - 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: honeypriya

Thankss soo much dear...thats so sweet of you...I guess the main reason we here for the love of the show and the package that it comes with 😊
I have no sister...and always longed for one...that quote was on a collage my brother gifted me...so its nice to be a Sister always to a brother...whose name is Arnab...but still I have missed having a sister too !!!

Hi Priya
I have been silent reader of crooner for very long time .I am writing today to let you know that i love the positivity that this thread has ,ofcourse your post are always brilliant . Loved fridays and todays post ,BS was amazing yesterday,all the noise that been created about him staying or leaving is
cannot take away from the fact he is the best that we have across Tv and SHowbiz when it comes to emotions.recently i saw barfi ranbir kapoor was amazing.i put barun,in same place as him.I hope he stays it would be a big loss to TV watching janta anyways i digress, as i was saying thank you writing such wonderful positive posts,always look forward to reading them
enjoy your day
harshita
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Fear is the mind-killer.. And paired with guilt, it can kill you in every way possible.

Guilty is the one who brings the darkness.. So the punisher must be the one who lets the light in.

Priya!

Though the high point of the episode was the conversation between the siblings but it began & ended with Shyam. The episode left me thinking on the intricacies of a criminal mind .. his fears, his guilt .. his arrogance, his confidence. What really lets a man fall?

Shyam asks her for 300,000 but she gives him more .. 500,000 .. as always she has returned his love with interest .. will she return his vengeance with interest too? 300,000 .. 3 .. the number of Trinity .. the symbol of Trimurti - the creator, the preserver, the destroyer ... the holder of the past, present, future .. 5 .. the number of harmony and balance .. the number of the divine grace .. judgment day is not perhaps far.

I have never been really very fond of siblings interaction in a love story .. of course, this is the only exception. Yes, Priya, I will really cherish this bond as memories. I have no siblings and I have hardly any regret. But these two have made me realize what I might have missed in life .. There is no overdoing of affection or respect – just a beautiful, comfortable, flowing bond between the two. Barun & Daljeet should be credited for such beautiful portrayal of these two honest siblings just as much the CVs & Gang should be credited for bringing them to us. Tenderness .. honesty .. comfort .. beauty .. you have just picked the right words, Priya.

The brother, well aware of how her world is going to come crashing down in hours as a result of his own, decisive actions, tries to assure her .. it will be because he loves her – because her happiness is what matters to him the most. The sister, unaware of a shocking truth of her life, assures her brother - she knows, she trusts, she loves .. because his happiness is also what matters to her the most. The promise the brother made to protect his sister against all evil at an early age of 14, would finally take its toll today .. the ultimate test a brother can have to walk through to protect his sister.

Loved the scene where Anjali embraces her brother & sister-in-law, her hands blessing them while these two are in the mission to protect her .. to break her dream world to protect the real one. And Priya .. the moment Arnav held Khushi's trembling hands, I felt myriad of emotions running through me. All through, she has been his pillar, given him confidence, showed him his strength .. She is the one who has always held his hands .. but she is also the one who always hides her own insecurities & fears .. never seeks support & strives for others. Arnav, only Arnav knows the child inside her .. her worries, her fears .. and he stands as her pillar too, he gives her the strength too. The hand that has always held him when he felt weak, he in turn holds that very hand and assures, he is right there for her too. They are for each other .. together .. forever.

Lastly .. something for Barun Sobti ..

You are AWESOME. That's all I am gonna say. And it is funny how you are making everyone losing sleep (thanks to Priya for pointing out 😆) .. for one reason or the other! 😆😆

Edited by Omoraboti - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: GanBarunFan


perfect title.for today's episode..Priya!👏 and you touched the heart of the relationship that this brother sister share with you amazing quotes, caps

and remember how I keep on talking about your Crooner adding a layer of understanding to the nuance of a scene...the connecting 5 lakh to 5 senses was today's "...but it's her "sixth" sense Shyam forgot to vision"...I LOVE LOVE this line!

amazing as usual!


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Perfect title Priya...! As you pointed out IPK is also about Anjali-Arnav relationship, other than the Arnav-Khushi lovestory. A very unique, beautiful brother sister relationship which was always portrayed as more of a mother-son relationship before it got lost in the 'Shyam lotao andolan" track.

The brother Arnav stands at a crossroad where if he didn't do anything, Anjali would be hurt especially after he came to know about Shyam triggering the miscarriage but he also knows that the path of revelation of Shyam's true character will leave Di devastated. He chooses to follow the righteous path to fulfill his lifelong promise to his sister to protect her and her happiness. He couldn't protect his Momma, but his Di he will. He knows that though the truth will initially shatter her, but it is necessary for her safety and happiness in the long run to open her eyes to the evil personified hiding behind the mask of smooth talker, lovey dovey husband of hers. He also knows from previous experience that they have to prove the extent of Shyam's atrocities as Anjali would rather believe in Shyam's lies than his faults as that will restore her bubble of perfect world. So he goes to get Di's blessing for the biggest battle of a brother for his sister.

It cues in one of the best brother -sister scenes of IPK to date...Barun excelled in the scene depicting a brother's predicament to the dot...every bit of voice breaking, initial struggle to make eye-contact with a blissfully happy Di, the unshed tears, the clenched jaw,gulps while getting purposeful as this was as much a conversation with himself as it was with Di and then almost breaking down after Anjali said "aisa ho hi nahin sakta" to his " Di agar zindagi mein aisa kabhi hua ke main aapko chot pauchayaee..." and trying to recover and tell her to have confidence in him; each emotion enacted with flawlessness! An emotional scene where the innocence of Anjali and the trying hard not to fall apart Arnav just
yanks at our heart. As an audience I can relate to this Anjali more than the one she was turned into around the miscarriage time..Daljjet portrayed the perfect Anjali as a woman who's gullible, having blind faith in her husband...but one with golden heart.

Isn't it ironic that it was after her last wedding anniversary that Anjali had 'blackmailed' Khushi into Arnav's life which led to them to falling in love and this anniversary they have to bring her face to face with the true color of her love, which will break her heart. Life sometimes is too cruel.



When Arnav struggles, gets emotional, Khushi's there to rescue him like she did today at the end of Di-Chotte conversation and when she stresses out thinking of the situation at hand, it's impact on Di as well as Arnav...he silently reaches out and holds her hand in assurance. Together they have formed a husband wife unit where one lifts the other one when necessary...where communication is through eye contacts, hand holding or subtle touches and with a common purpose. A true Yin-Yang couple who complete each other.

Shyam's twitching days are over, maybe that's why Abhaas went overboard with the last scene😉😆 btw how gullible can a woman get? A wedding anniversary gift with a price tag attached...instead of pitching a fit like a normal wife, she pays him an extra 2 lakh😲... for what?!? the thought? Sheesh Anjali what happened to Arnav's"anjali di hai sabse sayani"?


Who knew I would LOVE Shyamu in a precap? I've been in lau ❤️with the guy since Arnav-Khushi's wedding...and the precap made me go dhak dhak😉😳😆


precap making you go dhak dhak 😆 and making me want to raise a toast - the long wait finally over...not sure why Forum fretting on why he is getting unrevealed so soon, as per me...they have it delayed by couple of months and lost half of their TRP audience due to this - get his face unmasked, start back on your story - the TRPs and audience will walk back...
G your collages are to die for, teach me your secrets one of these days...they are lovely Clap
Loved your precise outlay...I didnt have much words to describe the scenes yesterday...too groggy or distracted I guess, so did ramanchi using verses than prose...
But loved how you took us down the moments...and the ones in bold...perfectly said...BS's appreciation...me no good at that 😆 you put it across aptly !!!
Indeed yin-yang couple...and cant wait to see how they play it out today !!!
thankss for always being so lovingly put up your thoughts here nd for all those sweet words 😊
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Originally posted by: UltimateBarun

Beautiful darling!!


FIRST U GO GET A CHEQUE FROM 4LIONS!!! u make any avg episode SEEM so beautiful here anytime,,n if the episode was already good u make it extraordinary at the crooner!! I luv that!! thus I come n read crooner of all the episode analysis POSTS.

yes with bro-sis angle yesterday's episode was beautiful, I loved Anjali's hug with Arhi, the rakhi scene n those dialogues

I luv all your caps!

waise i say that mangal sutra was for 300 Rs,,I refuse to believe that it costed the slimy 3Lakhs!😆

Btw,,, the baby crib... was out,, yet abhi no on found the will papers...yaad aya bas !

After Barun & Sanaya its only Karan I look fwd to watch in IPK,,,Abhaas at the end,,OMG!!!it was hilarious shot! 🤣

Looking fwd to the karz revelation! 😉

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btw I luv the title!

aapne itne jaldi...itna lamba...aur itna super likha 😆
arrey 4LIE-ONS ke show ka main management free mein kar doon...PR saving aur 1 saal ki story - par unhe "quabool hai" ??? 😉😆
and the MS - I accepted saying - locket diamonds ke honge - to Shyaam babua ne 3 lakh pay kiye honge - saale sahab ke paison se aadhe din aur aish kar le...phir to hello hi bye bye !!!
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