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Posted: 13 years ago
#91
Tanthya and Doodles... Again very intriguing and engaging intrrpretation of the last episode. Lets look at this from the other side shall we? Please bear with me, the cynic is back...

The first thing that came to my mind after reading your post Doodles was the word, simplicity or the lack of it. I am sure you have heard of

Less is more.
Simplicity is the ultimate sohistication.

And as happens in art, simplicity is not easy to achieve. Too much of details or all the quaintness of wit or infusion of so called complex layering might give you a very gaudy baroque piece, and the real purpose and message will be lost in that tangle. For all the credit you guys give them, i fail to understand why these guys cannot determine what their target audience is and go about unraveling the story using methods and means that can be easily conveyed and understood. Thats why i stress on simplicity, its simple but make no mistake its not the easiest thing to
arrive at!

Why do i feel a jarring discontinuity as if they are skipping through scenes and moments, that bedscene lacked a certain poignancy because they wanted to moveon to the next scene? I ask why that rush? They take pains not to untangle and steer clear of that mu and i feel like they are asking, whts the rush? Hell the rush is ur audience who is fast losing patience! The main story has been moving at a snails pace while little moments feel rushed, wht is the aufience supposed to hold on
to?

For a Ph thats supposedly struggling with produxtions issues whats the most logical route to achieving tht?

Something that maximises their chances of achieving thier goals. Clearly not something that jeopardises that very thing?

Not everyone is writing a thesis on ipink... Most likely they watch this to get away from their actual thesis works! So, whats stopping them from delivering their message methods that actually works?

When u set about doing too much u run the risk of overdoing it. May be the so called aesthetic storytelling does not need to be every episode?? Use it for things that will give the maximum high, so it makes a better impact?

Ok so here's another interpretation of AR 36K =$$$


Isnt that why the man works so he can make lots of it and foot the bill of his family?
Edited by spirit - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#92
Saw the episode now..
Read doods and sathya's analysis... moving on to next

Only one thought in my mind
why why...! Arhi is indeed poles apart and why DM is all set on bringing them closer?😆
Khushi -> go back to lucknow. All problems solved. You yourself don't know what you want... So go back and settle down there with a local prince charming. 🤣.

And me goes... like this



sorry dears.. for the half glass empty post!!!! Will add something coherent once I read some feel good posts in redux...😳
Edited by sree07 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Aero I love crying!! 😆 😆 I love the raw emotions and pain and hurt in drama series! 😆 Everybody on Redux is quite aware of it actually by now. Plus I think when we get a cryong episode - that IS the best episode! 😉 Take the diwali one, the Arnav breaking down one - all had me in tears and they were the best episode!
Hahaha! Famous hogayi main toh rone dhone ke maamle mein! 😆



Hmm diwali episode is my best episode till date but dear, tear will the last thing that would come to me.. 😊 though my mood changes immediately and that will be visible well on my face...
Anyway... from mon hope IPKKND will be on track and we can collect buckets of water and save it.. what say... pani bachao aandolan



Bye Anna .. have to leave to strat my today's work.. actaully was waiting for tant to finish her analysis... anyway will try to catch you in evening..
Edited by aerowana - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#94
@Doods: After watching yest episode, i was desperately waiting for ur analysis...i wanted to know if there was any hidden message and i am flabbergasted at ur take on the episode which looked so mundane otherwise...HATS OFF to u...👏👏👏 U R AWESOME

@ rest of the Reduxians...all of u have made this serial worth watching...with ur superb analysis :):):)
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@doods: not in my wildest imagination could i come up with the idea of this episode being on Shyam .. so you are right when you are talking to 4 Lions :) ... well as you said, I am part of that audience who just wants to enjoy the 30 minutes they can spare from their tight schedule .. and thank God, i found this thread for some quick inside view!
@nia: wonderful post.. loved your take on the pressure cooker dialogue .. apparently you are the only one to translate it and that was really good!
@anna:
thanks for elaborating on the news part. i understand it was done in a funny manner but it is fact .. so i really did not feel disappointed with it. and Khushi was completely in character when she was convinced with the news .. i dont understand Kundali much but did not Shyam came up with a fake Kundali which matched so well with hers? I hope it wasnt Arnav's 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: doodleberry

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Hey Doodhs...

Awesome...Awesome

As a viewer when I saw the Chess game...when the queen was defeated...I thought...it will be either Khushi or Anjali again in danger... coz as per promo khushi will learn half truth and will defnly take on Shyam this time...!!! Anjali becoz of the property file... NEVER EVER thought this way...

That was an excellent message to the Production House...!!! See only with substance in hand...they could move the an soap...the serial has lost atleast 20% of the viewers due to irritating comedy played upon by Khushi...and non usage of other characters to move the story...Rightly mentioned...Stagnant water...Its stinking enough right now...so the PH are trying to clear everything... Now they have to really speed up the MU clearance track to get back all the lost viewers and ratings!!

Brilliant again.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: vasiraju


Anna what exactly you felt about the episode 😆...You are supporting Kushi..7th wonder ..

But i didn't like the episode and OTT 🤢...i would like to see a confrontation between them..

the guilt should Push ASR ,have a Argument with kushi..asking her why she playing with his family and her family..

no they again switched to Comic and OTT 😡 😡

I know that Lucky - most of them were disappointed by it! And I am not supporting Khushi but kal she was being herself! What I did not understand ki app sab ko OTT kaise laga!? 😕
Arnav's sudden change in behavior confused her - and then that "india tv" sorts of news came that gave her the brainwave that something was wrong with him. She does not have brains - and she was likely to go to that track of mind since all the things were shown falling into place like the news said.
This will all help to push the story forward - Khushi will think wrong and then she will confront him directly about him and Lavanya and hence the final answer from him!
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Posted: 13 years ago
#98
wow !! you guys changed the entire meaning and context of the epi.. 😲
it never crossed my mind that this epi was about shyam or his plans.. neither did i realize the significance of 36. wow !! 👏 hats off to you guys..

i enjoyed the epi since i was expecting an OTT track and found a somewhat sober track.. never thought it had this much hidden meaning behind it..

thanks to you guys.. atleast i realize what PH is trying to convey.. but i have to say they r doing a very pathetic way of showcasing it.. i am sure 99.99 % of the viewers thought yesterday as a filler and did not understand a bit about the actual track.. you guys r the exceptions.. but i wish they will show it in such a way that larger % of audience understand it and appreciate it.. this should bring in more TRPs as well rather than random rabba ves...

hats off to you guys once again.. 👏 and thanks for doing this daily..
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Posted: 13 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: --Anna--

Hola people 🤗


A cute episode - a complete build up for the coming ones. Again was not planning to do any writing today because it was very clear what the basic setup for the episode was - and that was Khushi's confusion regarding Arnav's changed behavior and then knowing about the reason behind their marriage.


I will just touch on the small moments


1) Arnav Singh Raizada and his guilt


The past few episodes have been all about reality biting Arnav Singh Raizada from everywhere and how. He has realized and is guilty of his actions - he has realized what his one extreme measure has done to Khushi, he has realized that to save one girl - his sister's life - he has messed up Khushi's life. Did he want to hurt her deliberately? No. He did not. At that time - he was blinded by his anger - and today he is blinded by the confusion between his head and heart and his heart that beats for Khushi - has started feeling the pain she is in and has started caring for her again.

He looks at her innocent sleeping face and realizes that he has tarnished it in the most horrible way and now he wants to rectify it. He wants to change himself to not hurt her anymore. He does that when he sees Khushi shivering in the cold - he lowers down the AC. He goes to the bed and takes her hand in his - holding on to her. He will realize one day how she is the only one he has and how she is the only one he can actually depend on and then will he be at peace.

When he gets up - because Khushi tries to free herself from him - he is woken up with the fear of losing Khushi. It is not about Anjali anymore - it has become about Khushi. And by coming to GH - Arnav's feelings for Khushi has been reinstated. Today's episode it was all about Arnav's undivided attention to Khushi - and no he has not forgotten what he thinks she has done - he is just trying his best to not hurt her anymore... by not being rude and by staying out of her way.


2) Khushi Kumari Gupta Singh Raizada


I dont know why many are disappointed with Khushi today!? 😕 Common guys THIS IS Khushi! At this moment all she wants is her answer - and if they show something like this on the Television (which even I felt was a bit lame 😛) - Nevertheless it was completely Khushi - the Khushi who reaches to conclusion from what she sees and hears and strangely Arnav's changed behavior and his conversation with Lavanya was set up in a way that it would lead to her thinking this. Now if she sees a rat poison in her hand tomorrow - wont she actually add up one and two and put 4!? 😆 That is how she is programmed.

Moreover - this was a complete setup for Khushi to think Arnav wants to kill her so that he can marry Lavanya - her heart and mind confusion will play here and the fear of that one minute possibility will lead her to confront Arnav upfront and direct - and we already saw that in the new promo. 😛

One dialogue needs special mention :

"Humse baat toh nahi kar rahe, par saaye ki tarah humare aas paas hain"

Yes - Arnav may not have been talking to her - but he was always there around her, protecting her and as her guardian angel. He saved her from leaning too much over the stove and when time comes - he will withdraw himself from her life believing that he does not deserve her - however he will be present everywhere she is helping her, saving her protecting her and being what he is - her guardian angel! 😳

Again Khushi slashing her finger when she thinks of the reason of why Arnav married her : Significance : Her heart is about to bleed anytime soon now - we are reaching the stage where she will learn the truth and that is when her heart will bleed that Arnav did not even bother to talk to her about it before he took a decision of ruining her life. Its going to half-truth - nevertheless she would definitely be hurt that Arnav did not think it wise to tell her about this before.


Pointers :

1) I do not understand the Mami and Payal Bhoot scenes! What is the point of them! 😡

2) Bubbliya wants to throw the "Rani" out - when will we start seeing their bond develop!?

3) AGAIN - Where is Shyam!??? 😡

Favorite Character of the Day

Arnav Singh Raizada 😳


Did not understand the "36" thingy - all I know is that in Indian customes - 36 ke 36 attributes or something - related to the Kundli so I am guessing that it must have something to do with it. 😕

Chalo enough of my bak bak. Hope I made sense 😳

Love :)

Edited and added part

I could not get any sleep - because I can see that Khushi's antics have been brining in confusion and I cannot believe that I am explaining them.

Guys the News segment was about : That rich boys marry poor girls and then kill them or the girls die and then they marry their girl friends. Now I am explaining here is the term 'maangalik' - and I do that because it was about Kundali and not about murder mystery.

In hindu customs if a girl or a boy is manglik - it is said that the first person they get married to dies. Remember Aishwarya Rai Bachan first getting married to tree!? That was one classic example of Kundali dosh.

And that is what Khushi thought - she thought that there was some Kundali dosh in Arnav because of which he has married her and now plans to get done with her so that he can marry Lavanya. Trust me girl it is so common in UP that u would be surprised with the rates.

And tell me why would Khushi not think this way!?

-She does not know the reason of her marriage to Arnav - it was super sudden
- She does not know why Lavanya and Arnav broke up
- She is aware of Kundali dosh because it happens
- Arnav's hot and cold behavior
- Arnav talking to Lavanya

She did not want to believe what she saw - she herself said - "woh bhagwaan mein yakeen nahi karte - toh kundali mein kya karenge"

She went out to confront him about it - but Arnav's convo with Lavanya just proved her suspicions right! She does not have any reason to believe that Arnav is not capable of it - and yet she gave him that doubt! Relax and understand her situation! :)

Damn! I sound like a Khushi supporter now! ;P Sree would be happy! 😆
Reply to Doodhs : Page 9




❤️🤗❤️🤗❤️🤗❤️🤗 Loads of kisses and for for being voice of my khushi... wait Will find out some sweet jilebi's for you today 😉

Wow that was one hell of a logical explanation for khushi.
When I was watching it, I was wondering. And most of the hindi meaning was not clear to me. Thanks for the piece. Rocking.👏
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Posted: 13 years ago

3rd May 2012

Hello REDUX, Appu here

I am relatively new here and too shy to make a post but I have tried in the past few days. Thanks to those who took the trouble to answer me and also to those who liked those few posts.

I started reading REDUX since it was first conceived. And when my interest in the show flagged with the meaningless comedy REDUX encouraged me to keep watching. And boy! Am I glad I did that because I got to watch Mon & Tue and to some extend Fri Episodes.

Keep up the good work Ladies and a heartfelt thank you. You are all brilliant. I come under the 99% of the audience – the ordinary ones, neither analysts nor critiques and I truly appreciate your efforts.

While watching Wed IPKKND I thought it was a comparison between Anjali and Khusi.

When K said, "Arnavji duniya ke sabse acche pati hai" I remembered Anjali saying so about her husband. Khusi thinks she is lying while Anjali believes it to be the truth (or is she desperately trying to convince herself that it is the truth?)

Shyam is actually trying to kill Anjali and she has no clue, while K thinks Arnav is trying to kill her and it's not true.

I did think the chess game had something to do with Arnav and Shyam but could not figure out the moves. Thank you Doodleberry for explaining that. 😊

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