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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lachii


yes i too believe they were married but i dont think she lived in agnihotri house because we see in flashback scene at kohlapur that she lived in flat. may be she left the crazy house after some time and so NA and anjali went overboard...
dont know mcuh about puja significance ...may be anyone else might know...

yes but i think it was about her father's inquiry
again he said this today's episode to make matters more complex for 4-5 days and then he wil tell...so what is going to happen in HM days that shlok thinks he will not need avdoot's case to keep aastha with him...i think we will have to W&W

she would have moved to a flat after leaving agnihotri house .
Yaar our HAS too much.
in today's episode it is clear that it was varda' solan for ashlok H.M?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lachii


An attempt to judge if the meeting of ashlok were coincidence or planned by someone.. Purely my HAS so enjoy everyone.

Okay the first two instance, saputara and train in my view were pure coincidences, but I do not understand, where was aastha going or coming from train...did she not spent the night at home?shlok was coming to pune and aastha ?

ajju/shlok in train(the suspected glare)>> ajju looks at him thinking aastha's pain due to bangles and shlok is a bit guilty. He had felt a bit guilty after breaking her bangles too but his anger came over soon.

swati is dead as in flashback, NA says "Swati is no more" it was 7, 2012

shlok came home 7:2013. He spent one year in Mumbai? but he stayed away from home for three years?did he live with swati for two years or was it a blooper?(he said in interview)

Aastha shlok encounter at home...

NA was much in anger after knowing that aashta was the girl who caused so much trouble

He did not like her hesitation to say sorry but told shlok to let it go

NA was gloating to see that his son was so affected by aastha that he was adamant for apology.

NA did not accept her first apology and was still angry

He got pleased and accepted her apology and got relaxed only when she said that she was truly sorry because of the "tamasha" infront of everyone

He asked aastha for shlok for three reasons:

1st, avdoot in hand

2nd, Shlok was affected by this girl so she will keep him interested 😉.

3rd, She asked forgiveness even when she did not want, for their image. so she knew that public image is imp🥱

Anjali did not like her the very first moment, did she remind her of swati?

Varad was curious about her...did she remind him of swati as well? He knew why he was so affected by her so told him to come back and sort his life out instead of running away and trying to close his heart. He said by running away you cannot decrease the distances that have come in relations..so does this hint that shlok is indeed on the mission to improve relations in his home?

Niranjan tries to convince shlok to get married but all in vain and then avdoot refuses which did not make NA angry but worried because he could have made shlok agree somehow but how to make aastha agree was a problem.

But NA knew that only Shlok's anger can make him stay so he planned all the rest. NA had told anjali that we can give up just because he has said "no".

(in 30th august episode we can see that the room next to shlok's room where aashta spent the night next to SR was indeed the study where he had burnt swati's memories, do have a look and confirm anyone? in today's episode we can see too..) Also bindi of aastha and swati is same. he had said in flashback "mein kabhi maaf nahi karoon ga" and then we hear accident sound and a shout "shlok!!" did he try to kill swati and himself?she died and he did not and now he is afraid that aastha will misunderstand??)

Next meeting outside collector office for baba's work:

May be a coincident where both were sent by their baba to collector's office. Quite possible since the papers may be related to agnihotris.

Aastha's baba is used to ask aastha for bringing things here to there. Quite understandable because she is the only kid.

Okay so NA comes forward with his first move in his crooked plan to make shlok stay.

He invited avdoot to the award ceremony to make aastha and shlok meet and may be to change aastha's view about shlok? when he invited avdoot for award function, anjali knew that NA is still on his mission all to keep shlok from leaving through aastha.

Stealing papers from a college is not a small thing and I am sure NA knew what shlok has done. So aastha comes to know of anjali and decides to meet shlok. she calls suresh who purposely tells her about headquarters and she reaches shlok..

now for NA to plan award function fiasco, we would have to assume that he somehow knew that anjali and aastha were friends. otherwise their expressions do not seem to tell this story.

Only then it fits that NA knows what has happened and knows that aastha will try to approach shlok during award function. So he used the reporter to provoke shlok so he would take all his anger on aastha when she approaches him and put the same reporter on their tail so he would get everything on air. Later he apologizes in front of everyone and everything gets forgotten except for shlok whom he knew would not forget and forgive to get even with aastha, he will stay at home. He further asks shlok to go back to Mumbai to make shlok guilty conscious, to indirectly tell him that it was his fault and also to make him feel defeated. Shlok reacted accordingly and decided to stay.

(must mention one thing here that I did not even for once felt from NA's expressions that he planned all this. Could it be that varad planned all this because he did not care about public image. He only cared about his brother's happiness??) its my HAS, don't scold me.

Next day he gets his office attacked by goons to further arouse shlok's anger towards aastha because he still wants aastha to be his bahu for the above mentioned reasons and also may be as a compensation for swati...because it seems that swati incident went out of NA's hands because anjali went overboard.

Then NA came to know about his plan to make aastha puppet through suresh, I am again assuming suresh as informer for NA about Shlok, so NA knew about all Shlok's plans and NA played along accordingly. When Shlok fell in love with aastha, NA did not know and thought of it as a part of plan of shlok to get aastha etc.

Then we can also assume that when NA knew that Shlok and Aastha are fighting and things are not going right, aastha resigned and he saw that she had come on rickshaw home in office hours, so he made the card printing mistake to bring them together.

Then again he let anjali bring rishta of Tania etc so that shlok has to decide and end the game and now I am again confused whether anjali provoked shlok to announce the rishta on NA's instructions or she did it herself. I am not convinced at all that she did not know that she was provoking Shlok.

I am stopping my HAS here because these allegations against NA/Varad/Suresh are not at all supported by their expressions...and all this is based on the assumption that NA or Varad knew that college vali anjali is aastha's friend...

And as a last note, suchi you are very right, there is something much more to anjali's attitude than a poor battered woman...but I am just not clear how to put it so I did not mention her reactions to keep the story simple.


I missed this...hey should have reminded me after me back..

Very nice..
Input res may be with pics...let's see if I can add them..
Post episode dates dear..

Very very very nice analysis and detection..especially the swati detection .take varad dialogues too..he said it's been two years..have to move on,,stay back on august 30 th..more after going back past.


Can I do this later HON..catch up your next project.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#23
oh i did not realize you did not see this...
i had done this recap in search of answers to jalpari's questions...
i looked for any meaningful glances or meaningful dialogues to support any previous connections but found none...

i really forgot ...it was done quite a while ago...

it spans generally all the earlier episodes so no dates in particular ...dont remember ...sorry
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lachii

oh i did not realize you did not see this...

i had done this recap in search of answers to jalpari's questions...
i looked for any meaningful glances or meaningful dialogues to support any previous connections but found none...

i really forgot ...it was done quite a while ago...

it spans generally all the earlier episodes so no dates in particular ...dont remember ...sorry


It's ok HON but must you have some connections to scenes ...will get back to this after..your father project..


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Posted: 11 years ago
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If spoiler says Astha leaves home after exposing everything, my feeling is Shlok will show her that he loves her and will be able to get his Astha back, but this time note in Agnihotri house but in a place where her parents and ajju will also have a place to live. Does it mean he will go and live with them , so that he can convince Astha about his love? Trying to connect dots with what the CVs have shown us. So will we see Shlok and Astha's nest. They showed that while lighting the fire too. He had collected the hay for their nest.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Prasai


It's ok HON but must you have some connections to scenes ...will get back to this after..your father project..



ok will read it tomorrow and then try to tell you the episodes
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: lachii


ok will read it tomorrow and then try to tell you the episodes


Tomorrow an hour or so..am off to be in my godmother response ...
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sg2013

If spoiler says Astha leaves home after exposing everything, my feeling is Shlok will show her that he loves her and will be able to get his Astha back, but this time note in Agnihotri house but in a place where her parents and ajju will also have a place to live. Does it mean he will go and live with them , so that he can convince Astha about his love? Trying to connect dots with what the CVs have shown us. So will we see Shlok and Astha's nest. They showed that while lighting the fire too. He had collected the hay for their nest.


Suchi..pics have put in hold need straight 1 hour to do them..kids not letting me..will give them a. Oviedo freak of the day and will join your post with pics..

Two spoilers one you said..the other that ashlok will end revenge track and clear out ..atleast some and see to family issues..so they might be with family..
But can say if Aastha MU takes place shlok going after Aastha at ajju house to temper or pamper your connection can be there..

Oh god am I in writing OS mode..creativity..not upto mark just connections ..check my which I have to continue can you or LACHII suggest some ideas..

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Laachi,
Nice Analysis. I did not read any of the replies to your analysis below because that a bit too much HAS for me 😊 (please do not take it otherwise). I generally take the story as it goes. I liked the 3 points that you mentioned. There are definitely many questions to be answered and it is difficult to connect all the dots. But, great job trying to connect those dots.

1st, avdoot in hand

2nd, Shlok was affected by this girl so she will keep him interested 😉.

3rd, She asked forgiveness even when she did not want, for their image. so she knew that public image is imp🥱

But, one thing that is bugging me since the beginning if NA has any penchant for girls who are the only daughters in their household. Because neither Anjali nor Sojal are shown as they have siblings. And Anjali's parents are in Ashram, that means they do not have any other kids right! Sojal nor her mum also never mentioned about her siblings till now. The reason NA might choose girls who are only daughters is these girls will not have anybody else to depend on and they can be made as puppets/slaves in his household. This is my POV. If that is true that can be added as point 4. Let's see how CV's show this.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#30

Originally posted by: lachii


An attempt to judge if the meeting of ashlok were coincidence or planned by someone.. Purely my HAS so enjoy everyone.

I have wondered about it...and will throw in my two cents. In my belief Shlok has planned it.

Okay the first two instance, saputara and train in my view were pure coincidences, but I do not understand, where was aastha going or coming from train...did she not spent the night at home?shlok was coming to pune and aastha ?

Both AStha and Shlok were coming back from Saputara to Pune. He by car, it breaks downand he gets into the train at Nasik. Looks like AStha and toli also boarded the train from nasik.They took that bus to and fro Saputara probably.

ajju/shlok in train(the suspected glare)>> ajju looks at him thinking aastha's pain due to bangles and shlok is a bit guilty. He had felt a bit guilty after breaking her bangles too but his anger came over soon.


Ajju knows about the fact tat he broke her bangles?

swati is dead as in flashback, NA says "Swati is no more" it was 7, 2012

shlok came home 7:2013. He spent one year in Mumbai? but he stayed away from home for three years?did he live with swati for two years or was it a blooper?(he said in interview)

blooper probably ..no idea,,sometimes i wonder if she is really dead or rehabilitating.

Aastha shlok encounter at home...

NA was much in anger after knowing that aashta was the girl who caused so much trouble

He did not like her hesitation to say sorry but told shlok to let it go

NA was gloating to see that his son was so affected by aastha that he was adamant for apology.

NA did not accept her first apology and was still angry

He got pleased and accepted her apology and got relaxed only when she said that she was truly sorry because of the "tamasha" infront of everyone

He asked aastha for shlok for three reasons:

1st, avdoot in hand

2nd, Shlok was affected by this girl so she will keep him interested 😉.

3rd, She asked forgiveness even when she did not want, for their image. so she knew that public image is imp🥱

Anjali did not like her the very first moment, did she remind her of swati?

Anjali knows she will have a tough time in training a girl like Astha ito rules of Agni household...and Anjali will keep paying for AStha 's mistakes..she wants a dumbed down daughter in law...so NA will not hurt her.

Varad was curious about her...did she remind him of swati as well? He knew why he was so affected by her so told him to come back and sort his life out instead of running away and trying to close his heart. He said by running away you cannot decrease the distances that have come in relations..so does this hint that shlok is indeed on the mission to improve relations in his home?

Not sure have wondered about Varad..he knows a lot about his younger bro...tickets to game, etc. He doesnt show his jealousy even though NA makes it obvious Shlok is preferred son.

Niranjan tries to convince shlok to get married but all in vain and then avdoot refuses which did not make NA angry but worried because he could have made shlok agree somehow but how to make aastha agree was a problem.


NA has revenge type of mentality..My guess is AStha 's NO to Shlok has been taken as huge insult by NA...apmaan of his purkho or something...the guy is twisted...he says to Avdhoot that its good AStha wants to do job..but look at his own family..his wife, daughter and DIL dont work. Its NA wants revenge for the fact that Astha said NO.

But NA knew that only Shlok's anger can make him stay so he planned all the rest. NA had told anjali that we can give up just because he has said "no".


NA is too bothered about image and his public avtaar..he would never cause the commotion and public insult at award ceremoney himself. NA's bad deeds are done in private, I dont think NA planned the awards fiasco.

Rather..its Shlok who planned it in my opinion. It was his first stone at NA. Shlok's goal is to free Anjali, his mom from NA's clutches. He needs to bring down NA for that...

(in 30th august episode we can see that the room next to shlok's room where aashta spent the night next to SR was indeed the study where he had burnt swati's memories, do have a look and confirm anyone? in today's episode we can see too..) Also bindi of aastha and swati is same. he had said in flashback "mein kabhi maaf nahi karoon ga" and then we hear accident sound and a shout "shlok!!" did he try to kill swati and himself?she died and he did not and now he is afraid that aastha will misunderstand??)

I agree rooms look same next to each other..but i dont think Astha has got permission to go to that room...its a blooper on creative set part.

Next meeting outside collector office for baba's work:

May be a coincident where both were sent by their baba to collector's office. Quite possible since the papers may be related to agnihotris.

Aastha's baba is used to ask aastha for bringing things here to there. Quite understandable because she is the only kid.

But how come Avdhoot always sends his daughter to where Shlok is?

Okay so NA comes forward with his first move in his crooked plan to make shlok stay.

He invited avdoot to the award ceremony to make aastha and shlok meet and may be to change aastha's view about shlok? when he invited avdoot for award function, anjali knew that NA is still on his mission all to keep shlok from leaving through aastha.

Stealing papers from a college is not a small thing and I am sure NA knew what shlok has done. So aastha comes to know of anjali and decides to meet shlok. she calls suresh who purposely tells her about headquarters and she reaches shlok..

now for NA to plan award function fiasco, we would have to assume that he somehow knew that anjali and aastha were friends. otherwise their expressions do not seem to tell this story.


Again I think its Shlok who planned that Astha should come to awards ceremony and spill the beans...he purposely refuses to hear her out even for 2 min. Suresh is Shlok's manager...Shlok wants to put a dent in NA's reputation. This Gauri...has some thing to do with it...there is one scene in which Gauri and Astha are having webcam session..before awards.and Ashta says in that that its not good to cause problem at awards..I think they did that as a webcam and not as a phone or in person conversation..because that will be used as evidence to prove that Astha did not purposely try to create problems at award ceremoney.

Only then it fits that NA knows what has happened and knows that aastha will try to approach shlok during award function. So he used the reporter to provoke shlok so he would take all his anger on aastha when she approaches him and put the same reporter on their tail so he would get everything on air. Later he apologizes in front of everyone and everything gets forgotten except for shlok whom he knew would not forget and forgive to get even with aastha, he will stay at home. He further asks shlok to go back to Mumbai to make shlok guilty conscious, to indirectly tell him that it was his fault and also to make him feel defeated. Shlok reacted accordingly and decided to stay.

(must mention one thing here that I did not even for once felt from NA's expressions that he planned all this. Could it be that varad planned all this because he did not care about public image. He only cared about his brother's happiness??) its my HAS, don't scold me.

No scoldings dear...I could be and maybe completely wrong too...so no scoldings to us..we are just HAS badhitulu!!

Next day he gets his office attacked by goons to further arouse shlok's anger towards aastha because he still wants aastha to be his bahu for the above mentioned reasons and also may be as a compensation for swati...because it seems that swati incident went out of NA's hands because anjali went overboard.

I think NA killed Swati because Shlok really loved Swati and Swati proposed a threat to NA's control over Shlok. This time, Shlok is making publicly sure that everyone at his house feels that he is angry to Astha ...so that NA will not harm Astha that way.

Anjali has to take the paap and paschatap being NA's wife according to his rules. NA cannot tolerate if any other two people in the hosue love/unite/support each other..that brings down his control. If you notice he doesnt let Varad and Shlok behave well with each other.

Shlok's anger and consequent calling his mother Anjali Agnihotri is because she could not stand up to her husband for sake of her kids.

Then NA came to know about his plan to make aastha puppet through suresh, I am again assuming suresh as informer for NA about Shlok, so NA knew about all Shlok's plans and NA played along accordingly. When Shlok fell in love with aastha, NA did not know and thought of it as a part of plan of shlok to get aastha etc.

You and me are together are correct here...Shlok made sure to make the impression in front of Suresh that he trying to trap and teach lesson to Astha..that way Baba will not take his revenge directly from Astha..since he thinks his son is taking the revenge.

Then we can also assume that when NA knew that Shlok and Aastha are fighting and things are not going right, aastha resigned and he saw that she had come on rickshaw home in office hours, so he made the card printing mistake to bring them together.

I agree NA notices AStha coming in rickshaw in office hours. Printing the card could be done by him...or Shlok. Really not sure.

Also other than the land deal..what is it that NA wants from Avdoot?

Then again he let anjali bring rishta of Tania etc so that shlok has to decide and end the game and now I am again confused whether anjali provoked shlok to announce the rishta on NA's instructions or she did it herself. I am not convinced at all that she did not know that she was provoking Shlok.

Is it possible that Anjali wants Shlok to marry AStha so she keeps on provoking Shlok and humiliating AStha and Kirloskers so that shlok keeps defending Astha and married her?Looking back Shlok says " mubarak ho" to anjali after Astha says yes to the marriage after anniversary event. ? it had weird connotations. I think, both Shlok and Anjali know Astha from somewhere before. The SR night, when Anjali is trying to set and check Shlok's room she says to herself" (kabhi socha nahi yeh kamra tumhare liye saja hai...beman se sab karna padraha hai..because now ur part of this family.)That had wierd feelings to it...was she saying that to Astha ...or to Shlok?

I am stopping my HAS here because these allegations against NA/Varad/Suresh are not at all supported by their expressions...and all this is based on the assumption that NA or Varad knew that college vali anjali is aastha's friend...

Why did Shlok take Astha to Kolhapur instead of Mangal Mangala...is it possible that NA was terribly upset that Avdoot didnt do the land deal that morning, he left Avdoot's office in anger. Was it that NA would have hurt Astha , and Shlok took her to kolhapur to save her? Because that was not NA's plan. Shlok was trying to teach a lesson...but it was not for Astha..it was either for NA or Anjali.

And as a last note, suchi you are very right, there is something much more to anjali's attitude than a poor battered woman...but I am just not clear how to put it so I did not mention her reactions to keep the story simple.

Yes agreed..there is more to Anjali than a battered woman...there is another facet of hers which is not shown till now...



@ Lachii:)

See if Shlok really wanted revenge from AStha by trapping her in loveless marriage, he would not have been the angry youn man with her initially...he could have wooed her and courted her in style, then married her and spend the night and then break her heart.
But the fact was Shlok was so akdu with her from the beginning...and he turned mellow only after certain turn of events at Kolhapur...and he didnt spend the night before hurting Astha...its talks of something else...
He wants to give her his name and protection...but also wants to project to NA that he really doesnt love AStha..so that NA wont go after Astha.

again I could be very very wrong...as always ...its a case of HAS...

My strong case of HAS also makes me feel that AVdhoot is leadnig double life...means he something more than a govt employee...the way he got arrested calmly...something about him is not adding up.

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