You Need To Learn To Listen.. 3.8 (Updated)

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Hey everyone sorry I was gone yesterday, please forgive! And enjoy!

Note: Episode analysis is lengthy. Too much already happened in the first ten minutes. It's hard to wrap my head around so many thoughts while writing an analysis.

Note2: This title goes out to Shikha, Indrani, Advay, Shilpa and the writers themselves.

The episode starts with Shilpa and Advay watching over Shakun and her mysterious phone call. She has a mister. Betraying her absent husband is she? Shakun is the weakest link I guess with such a big secret. I should remind you all that Shakun is not how she appears to be. In Episode 1, she speaks in Paheli: (which is what we are going to call her poetry language from now on) specially about teen chirayas, ek kahani, (3 sparrows, one story) two servants and one rani. The poem was meant to describe the power imbalance amongst the sisters which put Indrani on top in a triangle above her two other sisters.

Shakun has always been the weakest link because of this. Advay attacking her now only means he realizes that he was wrong about Chandni being the weakest link. Which is good because our girl was never weak to begin with.

The scene shifts to PP and Chandni in the car, and might I say, PP is creepy. He's getting mixed signals from Chandni. Chandni is trying to get dirt of Advay and PP is trying to sleep with Chandni.

Meanwhile, Advay leaves Shilpa with sneezing Shakun to watch over while he goes to the guesthouse. Chandni and PP reach the guesthouse. They sneak in and PP is still not understanding her, he thinks she went to get changed and goes to the bed with ALL his hormones on overdrive. Chandni starts searching for things in Advay's room she stumbles onto a drawers. It's locked must mean it's important.
Chandni, using Dev's strength, unlocks the drawer using her hair clip. She takes out a file and examines it. Chandni missed the picture of her younger self with Dev. Saddening. Chandni takes PP and leaves with him. They are not seen by Advay, who was just approaching the house. I wonder what the file has. I hope it's something good. The Dev reveal will likely take some time. I feel as though we should get rid of PP soon. His presence is disturbing.

In the meantime, Shilpa finds that Shakun's lover is at her door. Can anyone just enter this house? Even Advay got in so easily. No security, huh? This man is clearly romantic as heck that he came with his balloon heart on his chest. Shakun and Mister hug. Shakun closes the window/door. My goodness what does that mean. This affair does explain why Shakun has an absent husband. This was probably always meant to happen for the story to continue it because Advay has no leads and can't woo Chandni. Shilpa calls Advay with excellent news. Advay, was in the middle of sensing. Someone was here, he goes to check the drawer but is stopped by the call. He is happy to hear. I wonder if Advay's house has cameras?

Chandni returns home to Shikha, she says she will explain her situation later. Shikha says Katto Gilhari and Chandni is triggered by memories of Advay saying it to her. Chandni forbids her sister from saying it. Shikha digresses and drags Chandni to get ready fast.

Indrani appears menacing before sweetly asking if Chandni has gotten ready. Since Chandni hasn't, Indrani orders Shikha to help Chandni.

In the next scene, and after ages of being gone, Veer appears. He is replacing his friend as Rajveer Singh. He is set out to prank Shikha for her kaand. He plans to make Shikha fall in love and then leave her in two weeks as payback. First of all, what the hell? I will get back to ShiVeer. This is crazy, because Shikha does something equally bad. I will say that Veer just reached Advay and PP level for sleaze-bag. Veer is basically doing what the other two are doing. Advay, getting a revenge by making Chandni fall for him, and PP, who plans to sleep with Chandni and then leave her.

Side Note: Why are some people so dumb? Is this show going to have only dark love stories? Traitorous love is this show's theme clearly.

The Va'Sisters are ready and walking. Meghna and Shikha taunts over PP but Chandni assumes they were talking about Advay. They tease how Chandni always goes round and round to talk about ASR. Chandni is unamused.

Veer is in the Haveli. Shikha spots Veer and is immediately enraged. Shikha does not even listen to Chandni or Veer and why he is here, she simply breaks the equipment. Shikha picks up a rod and goes to strike at Veer. He sucks under it, and PP is hurt instead. Everyone is mortified, including Shikha. Shikha is told that Veer or Rajveer Singh, was here to see Indrani's daughters. Indrani fumes. Shikha tries to explain why she did this but Indrani refuses to listen.

In private, Indrani lectures Shikha, she explained that anger builds nothing for no one, it simply destroys. Shikha tries to explain herself but Indrani still doesn't listen or want to believe Shikha. Indrani demands that Shikha apologize to Rajveer. Shikha is shocked.

In a different scene, PP calls out to Advay, PP got hurt on the neck. PP, almost unnecessarily cryptic, narrates the story of how he got it. He mentions no names but talks about Chandni. From the way PP spoke, he made it sound like her slept with Chandni. Advay, noticing the scratch and hearing PP, assumes that Chandni and PP might have actually slept together. PP is about to get into the better details but silences PP because Dev can't hear it. Dev can't hear about this conquest. Advay concludes that he is simply here for revenge and he should care what Chandni does. Honestly, if I hear Advay calling Chandni characterless I might have to call on hypocrisy and stupidity. One, if PP did sleep with Chandni he would be gone by now because he said he leave right after; two, he lived in the UK, premarital sex is not uncommon. So he can't call out Chandni when he lived Ina society where it was totally normal. Don't be ignorant, Advay. You are better than that.

Now onto the rant portion of this review.

First, I'd like to say that along with Veer, Shikha is wrong. This is not how you respond to someone, even if they are partly responsible for breaking an engagement. What happened to Radha was entirely on her. She was engaged and yet she choose to walk with a man who had a big car and left when she realized he wasn't rich. I wouldn't want my child to marry someone who is so interested in money on such a level where she thought to cheat on her fianc because she found a guy with more money. Would you want your child to marry such a person? I hope not. Shikha responding this aggressively says a lot about her. Not only did she not listen, she broken expensive stuff and Chandni's "fianc" got hurt.

Second of all, what Veer is doing is equally wrong. And that's what's wrong with this pairing. They are already so messy for a side pairing. He plans to make Shikha fall in love with him and then he breaks her heart. That is not a response to someone who is horrible. I apply this to Advay and PP as well. You cannot just walk into someone's life and betray them in cold blood. What does that say about you? Especially for PP and Veer who have dumber reasons. Veer could have called out Shikha in front of her family but chose revenge, like his older brother. I think Advay and Veer will bond over revenge, it's very likely. Veer is going down the same path as his brother, revenge must be a family problem.
Third of all, people in this story need to learn to listen. This is a genuine problem for most people in shows and real life. Atleast 4 people, excluding the writers, have ignored this logic just today. Advay didn't listen to PP's entire story and now he assumed ChaTham had an ONS. Shilpa didn't listen to Shakun and Mister's conversation which would have been excellent to record. Shikha did not listen to reason and recklessly destroyed everything and hurt PP. Indrani did not listen to or believe Shikha because she threatened Chandni's marriage to PP. Which is why the title is you need to learn to listen. Maybe important information is being passed down to you.

Rant portion is over.

In the last scene before the Precap, Chandni, Shikha, and Meghna stand in a triangle, not facing each other.

Side Note: why aren't they facing each other, this is sucha weird way of speaking to your sisters as the camera goes around you.

Chandni and Shikha rant together over their respective man and their problems. They will allow Advay and Veer to walk around this house and plan to get rid of the boys. Meghna is silent. She smiles and frowns. They don't show her face much. She has no lines. This is likely because Meghna hasn't gotten her Mr. Right. I hope the workers listen to us and get her a proper guy. Maybe the real Rajveer Singh.

The Precap shows Advay and Chandni arguing. Chandni exclaims to the Rowdy Professor that she did go to the Guest House and found his raaz. She intends to expose him. This is most exciting.

The episode was alright but it went too fast. Too much happened.
-We met Shakun's mister
-Chandni went to the Guest House and came back for the function
-PP is still crazy
-The function is starting
-Veer is plotting against Shikha
-ShiVeer fight
-Shikha hurt PP by accident
-Advay misunderstood Chandni because of PP
-Shikha must apologize
-Chandni and Shikha out for blood.

All in 20 minutes. This all happened in 20 minutes. Not that I hate it, but it is a lot to swallow. I guess I'm happy they didn't drag anything. But this worries me for the future. Look how long it took me to write everything to gather my thoughts. Anyways, I hope you enjoyed the episode. I did enjoy it for the most part. Felt like I blinked I would have missed something.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Today's episode was fast paced Jesal. I guess because they are building for next week's episodes. That is why Chandni going to Advay's guesthouse and getting the evidence is shown today.
The main thing is there is no lovely dovey moments of Advay - Chandni. They have to progress the story too. If you look last 3 episodes they had ample romance time so now it is time to move the story. I am glad the creatives opened up one loop of Shagun and her paramour.

Regarding Advay not able to listen to PP's rants - It is more of Dev unable to hear PP saying those things about his Chandni. And I guess they will clear in Friday's episode that nothing happened with PP - Chandni. Advay was talking nice with Chandni in the precap and questioning her. Had something happened and Advay is under a misunderstanding I doubt he would be that cool. But yes he did get a jhatak as to why he is feeling so bad listening to PP's talks. I think it is his path of realization that he is falling for Chandni and can't hear her name linked with anyone.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Ya things were pretty fast today they r setting base fr both brother to be in that haveli n things to move .
Advay is starting his first patta with shakun maasi.lets see wht suspense she holds n how much she is involved with advay parents death . chandni is anyway gonna fail in her plan .its interesting how they r gonna get advay chandni get married .
Nice analysis
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Originally posted by: PSharada

Today's episode was fast paced Jesal. I guess because they are building for next week's episodes. That is why Chandni going to Advay's guesthouse and getting the evidence is shown today.

The main thing is there is no lovely dovey moments of Advay - Chandni. They have to progress the story too. If you look last 3 episodes they had ample romance time so now it is time to move the story. I am glad the creatives opened up one loop of Shagun and her paramour.

Regarding Advay not able to listen to PP's rants - It is more of Dev unable to hear PP saying those things about his Chandni. And I guess they will clear in Friday's episode that nothing happened with PP - Chandni. Advay was talking nice with Chandni in the precap and questioning her. Had something happened and Advay is under a misunderstanding I doubt he would be that cool. But yes he did get a jhatak as to why he is feeling so bad listening to PP's talks. I think it is his path of realization that he is falling for Chandni and can't hear her name linked with anyone.


I anticipated as such, but it was still too much info. Too much happened. I appreciated that the show got over this bit quickly, but I wonder how they will go about it now. The show needs to learn to balance romance and the story. It can't be both.

I hope they clear this misunderstanding tomorrow. I won't be able to hear Advay saying something like that to Chandni. I do enjoy that Advay tries to reason himself into not caring, implying he does have side to him that cares for Chandni outside of revenge.

I know I missed a lot of points though. I am not able to wrap myself around everything yet. I missed a lot that I was supposed to write but I can't think about it. Its not there yet.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: Channa_mereyaa

Ya things were pretty fast today they r setting base fr both brother to be in that haveli n things to move .

Advay is starting his first patta with shakun maasi.lets see wht suspense she holds n how much she is involved with advay parents death . chandni is anyway gonna fail in her plan .its interesting how they r gonna get advay chandni get married .
Nice analysis


I hope the story progresses more, but we are likely going to be stuck on more romance. I hope the real Rajveer is for Meghna. Shikha will be on apologizing to Veer.

I'm waiting for Shakun to break when Advay catches her red-handed.

Honestly, I am not fond of watching Chandni losing always, but I too wonder how AdvNi get married. Maybe Advay will expose PP and Indrani will ask Advay to take Chandni's hand in marriage.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I think Shakun maasi has an affair with Ranjeet , Kajal hubby
This is why Kajal maasi appears so sad and is impressed with Advay
I am sure whatever Shilpa put on Shakun hands will give Advay some clue
Shipla is Advay assistant so of course she will have got some super powers from him
I think Ranjit is two timing both the sisters
This can cause a huge problem and break the family later
Whoever it is has hidden himself so well from every one else till now
Once Advay knows the details he can use it to his full advantage
PP Chandni conversation was so double meaning from his side
He has a one track mind and he misunderstood all that she said
PP on Advay bed is such a bad image in my mind
That hand cuff was cringe inducing and pukeworthy
I think he had it with him and just took it out later
Chandi forgot that it is wrong to sneak into people houses
And go through their personal things and break open drawers
Advay can never go back to the Dev he was in his childhood
I knew she will miss seeing the photo else the story will not progress
PP was disappointed that nothing happened and they are going back now
Advay sure felt that some one was there but he saw no signs right then
I don't think his house has cameras
Chandni does not want to hear katto gilheri again
Shikha needs to be polite courteous and sweet and needs to control her anger
Chandni is thinking of ASR only and her sisters are right to point it out
Shikha breaks the camera without letting Veer speak
That was a rude and brash thing and then she went on to hit Veer
But Veer ducked and PP got hit and hurt his neck and started to bleed
Both the girls have wronged both the boys' mother
And so both of them want to take revenge on the girls
Both are systematic in their approach and both are calm and composed
They should bond well as they have so much in common
I was so happy that Shikha was blamed in front of all and Indrani too scolded her
She deserves some serious ticking off as she thinks she can get off with anything
I wish PP had asked Shikha to pay for his camera though he deserves the beating
Shikha tries to tell about Veer to Indrani but she does not hear her at all
Indrani believes in keeping calm and not getting angry even in worst cases
Advay sees the mark on PP neck and asks him about it
PP as usual exaggerates and tells everything indirectly
But makes it seems he and Chandni did it and she was happy doing it
Finally ASR is confused mujhe kyun itna fadak pad raha hai
He is here to take his revenge only so he should focus only on it
Something makes me feel this confusion will not be cleared long after marriage
Very soon PP will be thrashed by ASR till then he will control it
2 sisters are planning to kick the 2 guys out
But I am sure both will fail and something opposite will happen
Precap is interesting
Edited by 2filmy - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: PSharada


Regarding Advay not able to listen to PP's rants - It is more of Dev unable to hear PP saying those things about his Chandni. And I guess they will clear in Friday's episode that nothing happened with PP - Chandni. Advay was talking nice with Chandni in the precap and questioning her. Had something happened and Advay is under a misunderstanding I doubt he would be that cool. But yes he did get a jhatak as to why he is feeling so bad listening to PP's talks. I think it is his path of realization that he is falling for Chandni and can't hear her name linked with anyone.




I was hoping for this too but are we just being wishful thinkers? 😒 I don't want to hear him call her a 'characterless' woman either :(
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Originally posted by: 2filmy

I think Shakun maasi has an affair with Ranjeet , Kajal hubby
This is why Kajal maasi appears so sad and is impressed with Advay
I am sure whatever Shilpa put on Shakun hands will give Advay some clue
Shipla is Advay assistant so of course she will have got some super powers from him
I think Ranjit is two timing both the sisters
This can cause a huge problem and break the family later
Whoever it is has hidden himself so well from every one else till now
Once Advay knows the details he can use it to his full advantage
PP Chandni conversation was so double meaning from his side
He has a one track mind and he misunderstood all that she said
PP on Advay bed is such a bad image in my mind
That hand cuff was cringe inducing and pukeworthy
I think he had it with him and just took it out later
Chandi forgot that it is wrong to sneak into people houses
And go through their personal things and break open drawers
Advay can never go back to the Dev he was in his childhood
I knew she will miss seeing the photo else the story will not progress
PP was disappointed that nothing happened and they are going back now
Advay sure felt that some one was there but he saw no signs right then
I don't think his house has cameras
Chandni does not want to hear katto gilheri again
Shikha needs to be polite courteous and sweet and needs to control her anger
Chandni is thinking of ASR only and her sisters are right to point it out
Shikha breaks the camera without letting Veer speak
That was a rude and brash thing and then she went on to hit Veer
But Veer ducked and PP got hit and hurt his neck and started to bleed
Both the girls have wronged both the boys' mother
And so both of them want to take revenge on the girls
Both are systematic in their approach and both are calm and composed
They should bond well as they have so much in common
I was so happy that Shikha was blamed in front of all and Indrani too scolded her
She deserves some serious ticking off as she thinks she can get off with anything
I wish PP had asked Shikha to pay for his camera though he deserves the beating
Shikha tries to tell about Veer to Indrani but she does not hear her at all
Indrani believes in keeping calm and not getting angry even in worst cases
Advay sees the mark on PP neck and asks him about it
PP as usual exaggerates and tells everything indirectly
But makes it seems he and Chandni did it and she was happy doing it
Finally ASR is confused mujhe kyun itna fadak pad raha hai
He is here to take his revenge only so he should focus only on it
Something makes me feel this confusion will not be cleared long after marriage
Very soon PP will be thrashed by ASR till then he will control it
2 sisters are planning to kick the 2 guys out
But I am sure both will fail and something opposite will happen
Precap is interesting


Nice review, filmy!

I actually doubt it's Ranjeet, the body shape looked different. Either way, Shakun is sly.

I agree though, he wanted to have her on Advay's bed. Thats weird as f**k. I can't even think about without getting michmichis.

Actually, he can go back to Dev, because if this is a romantic angle and Chandni is innocent, then Advay will become Dev in his love for her. He'll win her heart eventually.

The episode was good for lore detail, I hope we get more.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: ghissapitta




I was hoping for this too but are we just being wishful thinkers? 😒 I don't want to hear him call her a 'characterless' woman either :(


I hope he doesn't. Maybe the convo does clear everything up. I hope Advay's MU is cleared. I can't watch another ONS MU after Ishqbaaaz.
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Originally posted by: LordLuminous


Nice review, filmy!

I actually doubt it's Ranjeet, the body shape looked different. Either way, Shakun is sly.

I agree though, he wanted to have her on Advay's bed. Thats weird as f**k. I can't even think about without getting michmichis.

Actually, he can go back to Dev, because if this is a romantic angle and Chandni is innocent, then Advay will become Dev in his love for her. He'll win her heart eventually.

The episode was good for lore detail, I hope we get more.


If it is Ranjeet this secret has the potential to break the family
PP taking Chandni on Advay bed is too yucky and horrible
Hmm if only Indrani is the culprit he will forgive Chandni
He can never go fully back to Dev but he will be better

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