Why must it be a choice?

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Seeing the latest promo and the general reactions in the forum, I feel compelled to post some thoughts on the NKK track again.

To my great surprise, the writers actually managed to handle Shivaay's internal struggle regarding NKK quite well this week. He has made it more than clear that it's not a matter of choice, Anika is an implicit truth of his life now...if it had to be a choice, he would choose her over and over again because he cannot live without her.

What has unfortunately been somewhat disappointing is Anika and the general fandom's reaction where they continue to misconstrue Shivaay's actions and motivations vis a vis him looking into Anika's background. Where for some reason, all of Shivaay's obvious protectiveness and love for Anika gets swept to the side simply because he feels compelled to get answers and is human and flawed enough to feel happy if things fall into place vis a vis her having NKK.

A few simple questions I must ask:

1) Where has Shivaay ever said that him finding out about Anika's past will end up deciding the fate of their relationship? How did a simple curiosity for answers suddenly become the reason for such a sweeping judgement call regarding his love for Anika? Has he thought any less of her after finding out about her past? Has his love and regard for her lessened in any way? If anything, it has only increased the degree of his protectiveness of his affection for her...he looks pained, yes when he learns of her lack of NKK...but it is indicative of his internal struggle...a lifetime of having based all his thoughts and opinions on the NKK of a person colliding with the reality of being in love with a woman who has none of this...the very fact that he is pained already shows his choice, if a choice is what people want him to make...it is not a pain of regret, it is the pain of being humbled...and that is extremely tough for a man not used to being humbled by life to this extent.


2) The most hilarious irony in all of this...the fact that Anika too is digging into his past, the truth of his birth vis a vis the Mahi investigation and she is doing so against his wishes...but no one vilifies her for that...lol...despite the very OBVIOUS parallels the writers are drawing in both Shivaay and Anika hiding their investigations from each other knowing that the other will not approve of what they are doing...both of them trying to shield each other from the possible pain of the truth, but still needing to KNOW the truth😆...


Yet it is only Shivaay who must choose😕😆...over and over again, he is asked by Anika and the audience (per the new promo) to choose b/w her and NKK😆.


I'm quite stumped as to where Anika and the audience begin to draw this conclusion that him looking into her past means he chose NKK over her. That it can only be an either/or situation...that it has to be an ultimatum...how is this a relationship of equals when one gets to issue ultimatums and the other must bow down or lose? A healthy relationship would allow for both of them to work through their ideological differences, both of them making allowances for each other and learning to coexist with each other's different takes on life because at the end of the day, their love would bind them together more strongly than their differences pulling them apart.


3) Obviously, there is scope for Shivaay's NKK ideology to EVOLVE...it is already obvious that Anika is the grand exception to all his rules, NKK included...it was more than apparent during this iconic moment in their story:



He could have called her his Biwi simply to save face per NKK but no one compelled him to publicly acknowledge her as his STRENGTH...he did that all on his own.


I understand Anika's insecurities and abandonment issues on this topic...she is extra sensitive regarding any mention of her past, lack of NKK...but I feel some introspection is required on her part too...she demands that he let her be "Simply Anika"...fiercely holds on to that lack of a surname, lack of a family background...demands that she not be asked to change...but expects him to change a whole 180 from the beliefs he's held all his life😕😆...so how is this takkar ka, how is it equal?


Shivaay has committed many blunders in the past, is yet to make up or apologize for some of them...pick on him for that, Anika...but this? To demand that you not be asked to change a bit while he completely change himself? How is that fair?


I ask, why must it even be a choice? Why can't his NKK beliefs coexist along with his feelings for Anika? Why can't both evolve simultaneously as this relationship evolves? Change doesn't happen overnight...it takes time, many life experiences to evolve a thinking, an ideology...Shivaay will need to see a different world, experience different situations to evolve his thinking on this topic...and the same goes for Anika...it should be mutual...not based on ultimatums.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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nice post
the fate of shivay singh oberoi is to be bashed daily 😆
As far as i think he has already chosen annika
i can understand her inseurities
she is afraid shivay might leave her if he finds out that she is illegitimate or worst. but i guess she could not see that how much he loves her.
I.always want him to find anni.past
i have no objection
I love him alot

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Posted: 8 years ago
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I can't believe I've reserved as a priveleged first.
Hi...Have few things to say...Will be back
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Thank you soo much for this post.
I really wanted to say the same thing but was not able to express properly
After promo mostly people r saying that anika should leave shivaay.So he could understand her worth.
The guy knws her worth that's why he is sticking with her in this whole track till now
Seriously firstly pinky and now anika both of them r forcing him for doing opposite things.Any person at that position should be pissed off.But he is still holding his ground
And anika should have left him before on many occasions but she stood by him.Now if she leaves him because he is curious abt her past.Then again everyone blame shivaay for it.
One more thing,its quite human like to knw abt ur parents.Even if u want ur own identity.From anika dialogues it looks like she does not knw abt her parents and she does not want to knw abt it.It is really confusing because everyone wants to knw abt their parents even if just names or faces of their parents
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Posted: 8 years ago
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They can't coexist because Shivaay doesn't see Annika as the mother of his children. This whole choose thing is because Shivaay loves Annika, but he's being selfish. Dard and farak games are not going to drag a marriage through 50 years is it? No right? Shivaay has chosen Annika, but you're forgetting that he said he didn't have future with her himself.

Thats why Shivaay is having this internal struggle in the first place. Because it really is between Annika or NKK. Shivaay can't see a future with Annika because of NKK, so NKK has to go.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Point One.!
Agree to the Moon and back.!


Coming to the NKK..!
I do think it will remain after all of this...might become dormant for a while..!
Anika is a big exception to all his rules..! True.

As For Anika,
For her its more of telling herself.
First, she dint want to fall in love, her brain din't (but her heart did)
Second, She Fell, She Confessed, She Knows how it is to loose him, she's seen the trailer twice now. She knows that she can't exist without him.
She was a person jisse sirf apne Anika hone par Garv thaa...she respected the fact that Life is her battle and she fights all alone and will continue to.!
But then Love Strikes.
She said "Pyaar bahut raita phelaya hai!"
She alteadyvhad one person she loved and that person was her weakness and she just can't afford ti have another weakness, because she has faced the consequences.!
But, now she is madly in love, and maybe has started realising, that she just can't exist without him. He has become her Lifeline.
And to make sure she lives , she needs him.
Its her self-respect that She FEELS is at stake if he doesn't bend and say it first. Somewhere down its because of the way he forced her...the khudaari dialogue... He questioned her existence also, so those past wounds Maybe Scare Her ...
Besides she has always seen the hard life without love without care...
But ever since he came she knows how it is to be loved to be cared for...!
And its normal for her to see all that matters now to her is not in stake, cause she just can't afford the Loss...! Hence the insecurity..!

Brilliant Post..!👏
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: pickachu

Thank you soo much for this post.

I really wanted to say the same thing but was not able to express properly
After promo mostly people r saying that anika should leave shivaay.So he could understand her worth.
The guy knws her worth that's why he is sticking with her in this whole track till now
Seriously firstly pinky and now anika both of them r forcing him for doing opposite things.Any person at that position should be pissed off.But he is still holding his ground
And anika should have left him before on many occasions but she stood by him.Now if she leaves him because he is curious abt her past.Then again everyone blame shivaay for it.
One more thing,its quite human like to knw abt ur parents.Even if u want ur own identity.From anika dialogues it looks like she does not knw abt her parents and she does not want to knw abt it.It is really confusing because everyone wants to knw abt their parents even if just names or faces of their parents



Exactly...yeh wala moment shaayad bhool gayi, Anika😆



When she herself told him that she has more faith in him than her own self...ab kahaan gaya saara faith, Anika? NKK is making her go back on her words than Shivaay😆
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LordLuminous

They can't coexist because Shivaay doesn't see Annika as the mother of his children. This whole choose thing is because Shivaay loves Annika, but he's being selfish. Dard and farak games are not going to drag a marriage through 50 years is it? No right? Shivaay has chosen Annika, but you're forgetting that he said he didn't have future with her himself.


Thats why Shivaay is having this internal struggle in the first place. Because it really is between Annika or NKK. Shivaay can't see a future with Annika because of NKK, so NKK has to go.



What's the point of discussing children when Anika gets so scandalized by a mere kissie face or "jism ki bhook" teasing? She's happy in DOSTI waali shaadi😆...so this question is moot as of now.


If NKK goes, there is no Shivaay...NKK is a large part of what makes him who he is...NKK is not some evil ideology that must be eradicated at all costs...he has a pragmatic logic for why he has his beliefs...obviously he is rigid and somewhat close-minded about them so it can be improved upon...but an ultimatum is not the way to go.

Does Anika truly want a Shivaay who won't even be himself anymore? What is the point then? Didn't she fall in love with this very NKK wala Shivaay only? Knowing everything about him? He too has fallen in love with her, knowing she is the anti-thesis to his beliefs...so what is the point if either one of them will only be left a shell of their true selves by completely letting go of their core beliefs that make them who they are?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: LordLuminous

They can't coexist because Shivaay doesn't see Annika as the mother of his children. This whole choose thing is because Shivaay loves Annika, but he's being selfish. Dard and farak games are not going to drag a marriage through 50 years is it? No right? Shivaay has chosen Annika, but you're forgetting that he said he didn't have future with her himself.


Thats why Shivaay is having this internal struggle in the first place. Because it really is between Annika or NKK. Shivaay can't see a future with Annika because of NKK, so NKK has to go.



Hi, i'd disagree politely. i don't think he doesn't think of a future with annika. He keeps saying "adat dal lo, iss tadibaaz ke saath rehne ki" recently told chanda that they've always been like this and " lagta hai aage bhi aisa hi chalega". Just because of the mother of children thing we can't assume that this guy, who can't stop fussing over his wife for even one second is not thinking about having a future with her. And the mother of children was said even before the wife declaration and hence so much has happened which speaks otherwise.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar



Exactly...yeh wala moment shaayad bhool gayi, Anika😆



When she herself told him that she has more faith in him than her own self...ab kahaan gaya saara faith, Anika? NKK is making her go back on her words than Shivaay😆


She did not forgot anything that is why somewhere she still hopes that shivaay will leave her. But for a girl who has seen worst all the times also has been insulted so many times by SSO for NKK then how can she be so firm that he will not choose NKK over her.


@Bold-Italic-underline: When did Annika force him to accept her?? She did not force him anytime. After Pooja when he came, she simply asked one question that if he considers her as his wife now also and he said yes. Listening to his yes she was so overwhelmed and thought that nkk does not matter for him now as far as annika is concerned but just after few mins she listens him talking to his brothers. She already had this fear so whatever she listened she took it wrong and it was very natural to draw a conclusion that he choose NKK. she was not in stage where she should think from mind, rationalise the thoughts and then act. It was sudden action. Then after bringing her back when he asked for time, she gave it that you take all the time you want but remember I will be "only annika". She is not asking him to change his NKK for everyone. She just asked if he accepts her knowing she is just annika.

I am not sure if promo already played out or it will be but annika wanting to be only annika is because she has earned this after so much struggle. She has fought the world full of NKK to earn this identity "Just annika". also no one knows what she faced in past and what does she not even want to look back into her past. There must be something very dark which does not even want to remember.


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