What's up with Shivaay? 14.12

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

I have a question...

Where's Shivaay's guilt for doing all this to Annika?

Why are all the Oberois overreacting over it? They missed the point. They should have made him apologize to her and make things right! Not nurse each other's own disappointment on Shivaay...

Annika is right. " It's this the way to treat your elder brother? This fight is between us, me and him. Why are you all punishing him? I'm the one who has an axe to grind with him and I will. Whether we fight, settle it, or never come to terms with it, it's my fight with him. "

She's saying thank you for your support, but I can fight this myself.

I just wish she had said "you guys should have understood his nature better," instead of telling them too be grateful to him. Dialogue writers spoiled that.

All she needs is Sahil. And when Sahil brings up that she isn't his blood sister, she shushed him up made him stop all that talk.

I too didn't like the Dil Bole Oberoi moment, but not because Annika was in it, but because it was not meant for this juncture in the story.

Edit: He must be the one to call her to join in by his side. Like he did when they chased after the fake suicide girl and when he called her to go check on Om.

So,that fist pumping moment did not look good for me..😒

Shivaay is not sorry for doing what he did to Annika. He is sorry for falling in his family's eyes. I didn't see remorse in his face towards her.

In fact I thought he resented that she had to speak up for him to his brothers. So much that when they were coming to make up with him, he was walking away, feeling hurt. Would he resent that she had gotten support from his beloved family?

I still don't see him shedding his naam, khandaan, khoon prejudice, in fact he'd just behave like a prisoner forced to stay married to her.

Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 8 years ago

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shining89

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Posted: 8 years ago

I feel the reason he is not feeling fully guilty towards Anika is because of the ONS MU. Once that is cleared then he will fully realise.

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reni

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Posted: 8 years ago

It's going to be really long till he drops his prejudices over name khoon etc.. it will not happen over night or with one incident.

Gul said that it's going to be a long journey for him to come to terms with all his unjust notions...

I am glad she did sort out their issues. it's her fight with him and no one else other than her has the right to decide his punishment or forgive him.

PS I haven't yet seen the episode.. and my comments are based on the updates :)

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blackorwhite

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Posted: 8 years ago

However much I wanted it to be, I don't think this episode had anything to do with NKK or SSO feeling guilty about Anika.. 😊

In yesterday episode, SSO guilt was because he knew his family would be upset with him and not because he realized what he did is wrong and that kind of set the stage for today's episode 😆

This episode was meant for us and SSO to understand - How Anika perceives his family, him and their bond? How self-less she is? What she thinks about his 'galti' ?

For me, it also highlighted an Anika 'flaw'(not exactly a flaw but I call it one) - She really can't see anyone hurt because of her - directly or indirectly.. As SSO said "She is just too nice.." 😆

It also re-highlighted the fact that Family and OmRu are SSO's biggest weakness 😊 and even though he has many flaws - ego, pride, anger, impulsiveness, misunderstands people, arrogance, has prejudices, judges people etc etc etc etc 🤣 but his one good characteristic is when it comes he will do anything for his family - even move away from them if that is what they want him to do and they have the power to break him 😆

This is not the way I wanted Shivaay to go on his journey but I guess that is how the writers want it.. 😆

SSO is still not going to connect the dots and realize - Goodness in a person has nothing to do with NKK and what he did with Anika was wrong..😆 For that he still needs more shocks 😊

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shining89
I feel the reason he is not feeling fully guilty towards Anika is because of the ONS MU. Once that is cleared then he will fully realise.

This also I can't fathom. He was ready too spend the night with Tia a long time ago. And Om was going to have a live in arrangement with his exGF Riddhima.

But Annika staying in a room with her fiance was wrong? We knows it wasn't true. But what's it to Shivaay? Did she promise to be true to him, or did he give her any inkling that he was going to ask for her hand? Nope, on all accounts.

Pure jealousy. Illogical, unexplainable anger like he had rights over her, because he had feelings for her.

Wonder what will become of those divorce papers he had given her gift wrapped with so much love?

Edited by AnnzSageflower7 - 8 years ago

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: leverne
It's going to be really long till he drops his prejudices over name khoon etc.. it will not happen over night or with one incident.
Gul said that it's going to be a long journey for him to come to terms with all his unjust notions...

I am glad she did sort out their issues. it's her fight with him and no one else other than her has the right to decide his punishment or forgive him.

PS I haven't yet seen the episode.. and my comments are based on the updates :)

I agree .. He maybe bruised and thoroughly chastised, but his ego will not let him open up fully. He will do it to keep his brothers happy.

"I will keep making mistakes, but punish me , don't leave me alone.."

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sharmi

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Posted: 8 years ago

Bilkul what i thought!
It will take time for him to shedd his prejudice over the Naam, khoon amd khaandaan. That prejudice will be shaken when he finds out the truth of ONS... nd it will crack when he finds the truth about tia. Then Anika leaving him will break his prejudice. After which he will fight to win his love back. I guess he did feel that after all that he did to her..she supported him..but that One night stand with Daksh thingy... is stopping him from feeling more guilty for what he dis with her. Anika was right... the matter is between ShivIka... nd she can handle it all alone.
Maybe tomorrow we will get a monologue of Shivaay... most probably.
Yes even i too didnt like the four doing Dil bole Oberoi... at this juncture of the story.
But still afyer seeing this much happenei g i still cant believe that Shivaay still thinks wrong abt her...

Love Sharmi.

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Manonidz

@Manonidz

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Posted: 8 years ago

Shivay is a thick skinned wild cat ... he needs big blows to doubt his obsession with naam, khoon and khaandaan ...and it can only be done by people from his own world - Tia and Daksh ! Anika will be a victim of the rich and mighty I sense as a revengeful Tia and betrayed Daksh will soon target her !

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reni

@leverne

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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: AnnzSageflower7

I agree .. He maybe bruised and thoroughly chastised, but his ego will not let him open up fully. He will do it to keep his brothers happy.

"I will keep making mistakes, but punish me , don't leave me alone.."

For him to realise his mistakes and accept that he was truly wrong, he needs to be punished and not let go off easily... not all mistakes can be forgiven easily. After all you need to bear the consequences of your decision. Hence, shivaays redemption is required. Otherwise he will keep making mistakes coz he knows everyone will forgive him

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Anisa

@AnnzSageflower7

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: blackorwhite
However much I wanted it to be, I don't think this episode had anything to do with NKK or SSO feeling guilty about Anika.. 😊
In yesterday episode, SSO guilt was because he knew his family would be upset with him and not because he realized what he did is wrong and that kind of set the stage for today's episode 😆
This episode was meant for us and SSO to understand - How Anika perceives his family, him and their bond? How self-less she is? What she thinks about his 'galti' ?
For me, it also highlighted an Anika 'flaw'(not exactly a flaw but I call it one) - She really can't see anyone hurt because of her - directly or indirectly.. As SSO said "She is just too nice.." 😆
It also re-highlighted the fact that Family and OmRu are SSO's biggest weakness 😊 and even though he has many flaws - ego, pride, anger, impulsiveness, misunderstands people, arrogance, has prejudices, judges people etc etc etc etc 🤣 but his one good characteristic is when it comes he will do anything for his family - even move away from them if that is what they want him to do and they have the power to break him 😆

This is not the way I wanted Shivaay to go on his journey but I guess that is how the writers want it.. 😆
SSO is still not going to connect the dots and realize - Goodness in a person has nothing to do with NKK and what he did with Anika was wrong..😆 For that he still needs more shocks 😊

Well said!

Shivaay realizes Annika is not an opportunist, and to nice for her own good. But it doesn't mean he wants to stay married to her. He is still guilt tripped over Tia. And his big $$ deal is still awaiting.

But after these two episodes, I think the CVs will not shy away from thoroughly dragging Shivaay through lots of mud in regrets when the time comes.

Don't forget, this is GK. She broke a lot of hearts by permanently separating Sanam and Aahil in QH2.. I so feel like not being too attached to Shivika now..

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