Why Tia's Plan is CENTRAL To The Shivika Story

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Forumwasis, small caveat before today's post! I don't enjoy making controversial posts, I don't even think mine are all that controversial, but my previous post on Om/Ru abhi bhi chal raha hai! So for today, please PLEASE join in, but please be respectful of everyone's viewpoints. No bashing, no personal attacks, no hijacking the thread... Warna...😆

So today, after your nasha has no longer chadaed on your head seeing the Shivika arm grab (Ooofff!! Haila! REWATCH!!) please give me your calm, thoughtful brains for five minutes. And answer me this ... Tia ke sath yeh HO kya raha hai? Because, before we can decide or predict anything about the future track, we have to deal with TIA herself. Because everything, the current track, stalker track, marriage, hate/compromise track, and even the future one, hinges on the one thing we are not talking about. Tia is bad, she is evil, sceen pe abhi bhi kyu hai?? All good, rational questions. Who is the man?Daksh? Robin? Siddharth Vikram Rana? Tej? Hai hai, meri apni bhaiya toh nahi? Also, all excellent questions.

Today, I wont ask any of those. IT DOES NOT MATTER who the guy is. But then, what is the question we are not discussing? That would be: What is Tia's own MOTIVE in all of this? And what will be her motive BEYOND the upcoming failed Shitia wedding? Lets examine each possible motive to see where it leads us.

Firstly, the evidence for assumptions (for newbies, mostly).Clearly Tia's mother, and (pseudo?) brother are aware of her true story, even her lover knows and all are supporting her in doing this. We can be sure her mother (and father, with those shares he offered to blackmail Shivaay) are pushing Tia into this wedding. We know Robin forgets she is his sister sometimes, he lives with her, and is against this Shitia marriage. Lets not speculate who he is, that's not relevant right now. Daksh and she have not had a scene yet, but even if its Daksh--no matter. Tia herself is completely okay with going along with this sham marriage. The "Why?" could be Money, the most obvious one, or Revenge--which to me is looking less possible each day.


But if its money, then what will happen when Tia being already married is revealed? Right after the wedding, I have to assume, the ORIGINAL husband will show up--if only to stop his wife Tia being taken for the Suhaag Raat by her NEW husband. And whether that guy is Robin or Daksh, or a third party --we know, when it comes to Tia, he is possessive, and definitely not the type she can control easily. Do you see the Shitia marriage lasting for 10 years, while she drains them dry?


I don't see her playing this whole drama for much longer beyond the Shitia wedding pheras, frankly. The guy who is her real lover cant let her to do a Karvachauth in the heavily secure Oberoi Mansion, without showing up to be first in line. If I'm right, had the Shitia wedding even happened, it would have been over before Shivaay got to take that conveniently easy-hook blouse off his second hand bride.

So how will "they" get the money? Shivaay will be all forgiving and send over a truckload of cash and an "Unopened-Return to Sender" postal stamp on Tia's forehead? No, na? So the only possibility left is-- Tia reveals she tricked him, the mother and husband show up, the Oberoi's are humiliated, but hey the society wedding of the decade has just concluded. Where will their standing be in the media if this is revealed? Laughing stock hoga, stocks crash karega, vagera vagera. And Tia will helpfully agree to leave, threatening blackmail, and take money to quietly exit the picture. Now, as the Oberois NEVER divorce, she can still keep her money train running for a long time.


Clearly, a stupid plan--not least because if Shivaay knows she has a husband already, there was no legal Shitia marriage and thus no blackmail. If its just a lover, she keeps it quiet until the lover reveals it--again, same logic, he will not let her stay as Shivaay's wife, we know that. And if Shivaay decides to hell with it, he will not take this kind of power game played against him and his family, he is a predator himself. Tia /Mother /Husband are DEAD.


So second plan...revenge. Revenge for what? She is too high class to be Gayatri's family, frankly. No hint of Roop here, with her special brand of crazy, and Roop actually spoiled Tia's plan again and again by putting Shivaay out of commission before their wedding number 12 or whatever. SO this one, for me, is stupid too. Tia has NO REASON to take revenge.


The story so far does not support that in any way, and if anyone is being wronged, it is Shivaay. And Tia's overall attitude towards Shivaay is not negative, or cruel. She is not even mean to the OBros who, lets face it, don't treat her all that well. They make her quite unwelcome, and she takes it very sweetly, to be honest. I mean, if Anika and all those pesky feelings she brought had not entered the picture, I truly believe Tia would have made Shivaay an excellent wife. And I mean a fantastic, ideal socialite wife, even with her secret lover watching from outside the window. She would have gotten her romance and fun outside with the lover, and the money and respect and title inside with the husband. It would be a perfect marriage even for Shivaay, who would either not care about it, or not know about it.


So WHAT is Tia's plan? Because if she's still around AFTER the Shivika wedding, she still has a game in place with Shivaay that she needs to execute.

Gul cant sell her as a garden variety scorned girlfriend or rejected love interest Vamp here. She has no reason to be one because Tia is already cheating on HIM, and she does not have any feelings at all for Shivaay.
It cant be a whole "I will steal him back from Anika" because now that she knows all about the Shivaay-Anika connection, you would think she would warn Anika away, as opposed to doing this nonsensical match making. She is attacking Anika only to protect herself-- she is not attacking Shivaay's love for Anika. So even now, Tia is not possessive of Shivaay. Why should she be?
And if the marriage was going to be for blackmail or simply stealing long term, from the Oberois, after the Shivika marriage, obviously that's a closed door, no matter why or how the Shivika wedding occurs.

So answer me this, ladies--Why should she still be around after Shivika's marriage, as Gul has basically guaranteed in her posts, if its been just the money, all along?
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

Forumwasis, small caveat before today's post! I don't enjoy making controversial posts, I don't even think mine are all that controversial, but my previous post on Om/Ru abhi bhi chal raha hai! So for today, please PLEASE join in, but please be respectful of everyone's viewpoints. No bashing, no personal attacks, no hijacking the thread... Warna...😆

So today, after your nasha has no longer chadaed on your head seeing the Shivika arm grab (OFFF!! REWATCH!!) please give me your calm, thoughtful brains for five minutes. And answer me this ... Tia ke sath yeh HO kya raha hai? Because, before we can decide or predict anything about the future track, we have to deal with TIA., herself Because everything, the current track and even the future one, hinges on the one thing we are not talking about with any thought. She is bad, she is evil, sceen pe abhi bhi kyu hai. All well and good, rational questions. Who is the man?Daksh? Robin? Siddharth Vikram Rana? Tej? Hai hai, meri apni bhaiya toh nahi?🤣🤣
You forgot the cute Mr. Mishra 🤣


Also all excellent questions. Today, I wont ask any of those. IT DOES NOT MATTER who the guy is. But then, what is the question we are not discussing? That would be:

What is Tia's own MOTIVE in all of this? And what will be her motive BEYOND the upcoming failed Shitia wedding? Lets examine each possible motive to see where it leads us.

Firstly, the evidence for assumptions (for newbies, mostly).Clearly Tia's mother, and (pseudo?) brother are aware of her true story, even her lover knows and all are supporting her in doing this. We can be sure her mother (and father, with those shares he offered to blackmail Shivaay) are pushing Tia into this wedding. We know Robin forgets she is his sister sometimes, he lives with her, and is against this marriage. Lets not speculate who he is, that's not relevant right now. Daksh and she have not had a scene yet, but even if its Daksh--no matter. Tia herself is completely okay with going along with this sham marriage. The "Why?" could be Money, the most obvious one, or Revenge--which to me is looking less possible each day.


But if its money, then what will happen when Tia being already married is revealed? Right after the wedding, I have to assume, the ORIGINAL husband will show up--if only to stop it before his wife Tia is taken for the Suhaag Raat by her NEW husband Shivaay. And whether that guy is Robin or Daksh, or a third party --we know, when it comes to Tia, he is possessive, and definitely not the type she can control easily. Do you see the Shitia marriage lasting for 10 years, while she drains them dry?


I don't see her playing this whole drama for a much longer time beyond the Shitia wedding pheras, frankly. The guy who is her real lover cant bear to let her to do a Karvachauth in the heavily secure Oberoi Mansion, without showing up to be first in line. If I'm right, had the the Shitia wedding even happened, it would have been over before Shivaay got to take that conveniently easy-hook blouse off his socialite bride, agreed?

So how will "they" get the money? Shivaay will be all forgiving and send over a truckload of cash and an "Unopened-Return to Sender" postal stamp on Tia's forehead? No, na? So the only possibility left is-- Tia reveals she tricked him, the mother and husband show up, the Oberoi's are humiliated, but hey the society wedding of the decade has just concluded. Where will they stand in the media if this is revealed? Laughing stock hoga, stocks crash karega, vagera vagera. And Tia will helpfully agree to leave, threatening blackmail, and take the Oberoi money to quietly exit from the picture. Now, as the Oberois NEVER divorce, she can still keep her money train running for a long time.


Clearly, a stupid plan--not the least of which because if Shivaay knows she has a husband already, there was no legal Shitia marriage and thus no blackmail. If its just a lover, she keeps it quiet until the lover reveals it--again, same logic, he will not let her stay as Shivaay's wife, and we know that. And is Shivaay decides to hell with the revealing to the world, he will not take this kind of power game played with him and his family, as he is a predator himself, Tia /Mother/Husband are DEAD.


So second plan...revenge. Revenge for what? She is too high class to be Gayatri's family, frankly. No hint of Roop here, with her special brand of crazy, and Roop actually spoiled Tia's plan again and again by putting Shivaay out of commission before their wedding number 12 or whatever. SO this one, for me, is stupid too. Tia has NO REASON to take revenge.


The story so far does not support that in any way, and if anyone is being wronged, it is Shivaay. And Tia's overall attitude towards Shivaay is not negative, or cruel. She is not even mean to the OBros who, lets face it, don't treat her all that well. They make her quite unwelcome, and she takes it very sweetly, to be honest. I mean, if Anika and all those pesky feelings she brought had not entered the picture, I truly believe Tia would have made Shivaay an excellent wife. And I mean a fantastic, ideal socialite wife, even with her secret lover watching from outside the window. She would have gotten her romance and love and fun outside with the lover, and the money and respect and title inside with the husband. It would be a perfect marriage even for Shivaay, who would either not care about it, or not know about it.


So WHAT is Tia's plan? Because if she's still around AFTER the Shivika wedding, she still has a game in place with Shivaay that she needs to execute.

Gul cant sell her as a garden variety scorned girlfriend or rejected love interest Vamp here. She has no reason to be one because Tia is already cheating HIM, and she does not have any feelings for Shivaay.
It cant be a whole "I will steal him back from Anika thing" because she now that she knows all about the Shivaay Anika connection, you would think she would warn Anika away or something, as opposed to doing this nonsensical match making. So, even now, Tia is not at all possessive of Shivaay why should she be?
And if the marriage was going to be for blackmail or simply stealing from the Oberois, after the Shivika marriage, that I obviously that's a closed door.

So answer me this, ladies--Why should she still be around after Shivika's marriage, as Gul has basically guaranteed in her posts, if its been just the money, all along?



Wow! you don't give us a break at all do you??? Are you sure you are not related to Shivvay??? Distant cousin or something??? 😆
Keep those wheels grinding folks - no rest for the wicked here 🤣
Edited by asya34 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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This is food for thought for me. I will reserve and hopefully think through these questions ;)

I did love reading through it!

This is very wild, and I'm way off the mark here, but the only thing I did think of in the middle of the night was:

If Shivaay is the majority share holder in the Oberoi business empire, then what does his wife gain after he's gone, if you know what I mean?

Has this been mentioned in the show? what Shivaay's wife gets as a widow?

Honestly, Tia seemed to be a small pawn in a bigger game to me, even in the past episodes when she was reluctant to dupe shivaay or even marry him.
But her confidence seems to have increased knowing Anika is on to her, so much so that she's become arrogant about Anika's inability to expose her (the straightforward way Anika is going about this, I do not think her arrogance is misplaced, either😆)

The mastermind of this plan doesn't seem to be Tia, who's more involved in her petty catfight game with Anika...so motive-wise, I don't think there will be some grand scheme involved on her part.
She could be involved in some grand scheme herself unknowingly though...

But I don't know what..The only thing I could think of was a gradual take over of the Oberoi empire and possibly its destruction😕
Edited by geet.a - 8 years ago
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My god you are right..what is her end motive??? I was actually also thinking that when the Mallika- Shivaay confusion happened, she sounded so offended by it and like she had been so hurt by him. To me , she looked very genuine... I don't understand what her final game plan is...
Edited by mishti4maan - 8 years ago
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Only motive I can think of is that her parents company is not doing well but it is kept as a secret by dodgy accounting , so a merger with Oberoi industries may rescue the company 😕 However the reason for Tia being around after Shivika marriage may be because the senior Oberoi men and SSO and may be Pinky can cry their heart out about the great opportunity foregone by the merger 😆 More trouble for Annika obviously in the sasuraal. Of course later when Tia is exposed it'll also be revealed her company was worth nothing and Oberoi industries escaped unscathed!!
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Brilliant Question. So much suspense in this show.

Tia is in for MONEY, atleast for now.

If we know how the wedding might happen then it might give a clue on Tia. If it is NOT a hate marriage then there is no reason why Tia will stay after Shivika Wedding.
I think the Wedding will be a HATE marriage, where both Anika and Shivay are reluctant but are forced to marry each other. Tia will try to create the rift and get involved with Shivay to get back at Annika for spoiling her plans and dreams. So she will take REVENGE on Annika post marriage but will be caught and then Shivay will realize that Annika was right all along.

Her plans will change from MONEY to REVENGE.




My real question: HOW SHIVIKA WEDDING WILL HAPPEN? 😕
Edited by ShruthiLuv - 8 years ago
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Great post and missed posting a reply to your omru one. You write very deep and insightful ones. Reserve my comments for now.
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Really interesting post as usual Navin...
Tia's transition from a typical air head socialite girlfriend to a dangerous criminal has been an interesting journey and is very largely ignored even with the enormous potential it has for taking the story forward.
So I have a number of theories in my head ( some of which are extremely half baked) but here goes...

1. Strengthening the Kapoor empire. This is the most easiest and logical explanation. Tia, with all her obsession with Reiki chanting and the universe, cannot handle such a big empire and Robin is not capable enough so they want Shivaay's expertise for handling it!! Tia's boyfriend may be her secret which Mrs. Kapoor is unaware of or choses not to care about as this business deal is more important for her than her daughtrr's love life.
2. The Kapoors actually have a failing business which is highly unlikely, considering that the fact that SSO, a supposedly intelligent and celebrated business man who is the face of the Times wont know this!!
3. Robin is adopted and not the actual heir so they want Shivaay to take over the business as Tia's husband.
4.Tia and Robin have no relations with the Kapoors. She and Robin are merely hired to trap Shivaay into marriage and transfer the property to the Kapoors later...The Kapoors have introduced Tia nad Robin into the society as their kids abroad but Tia fails to mention that she is already married when she is hired.
5. Revenge. Tia's mother, Mrs.Kapoor appears to have a strong reason to get Tia married into the family! She may have had a close relative- ex husband, brother or a close relative harmed by the senior Oberois. Maybe a old Pharmaceutical drug trial gone wrong or some other illegal activity which led to disastrous consequences ( many lives lost etc.)and the Oberois hushed it up or blamed it on their employee who was Mrs.Kapoor's relative...Mrs. Kapoor swears revenge and comes back for it years later with Tia and marries Robin's father. We have seen the rest!!
I know its terribly far fetched and it had come to me while reading Pharmacology when I was half asleep but still Shivaay keeps having these Pharma company deals and the actual industry makes millions so...

Whatever the reason, one thing I do know is Tia will serve a very important purpose! Her betrayal will shake the very foundation of Shivaay's iron clad beliefs on khoon khaandan and nam!! And in the light of the recent rumours serve to make him appreciate his then wife Ani all the more.
Edited by chottekikhushi - 8 years ago
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amazing post!
I'm actually thinking the same thing!
What the hell is tia's motive?
how shivika will marry?Why tia will stay even after shivika marriage? who is stalker? is daksh positive character or an obsessive lover?Who exactly killed gayatri? the girl died or is alive who was hit by omkara's car?
My mind is !
IB has become suspense show
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Originally posted by: napstermonster

Forumwasis, small caveat before today's post! I don't enjoy making controversial posts, I don't even think mine are all that controversial, but my previous post on Om/Ru abhi bhi chal raha hai! So for today, please PLEASE join in, but please be respectful of everyone's viewpoints. No bashing, no personal attacks, no hijacking the thread... Warna...😆

So today, after your nasha has no longer chadaed on your head seeing the Shivika arm grab (Ooofff!! Haila! REWATCH!!) please give me your calm, thoughtful brains for five minutes. And answer me this ... Tia ke sath yeh HO kya raha hai? Because, before we can decide or predict anything about the future track, we have to deal with TIA herself. Because everything, the current track, stalker track, marriage, hate/compromise track, and even the future one, hinges on the one thing we are not talking about. Tia is bad, she is evil, sceen pe abhi bhi kyu hai?? All good, rational questions. Who is the man?Daksh? Robin? Siddharth Vikram Rana? Tej? Hai hai, meri apni bhaiya toh nahi? Also, all excellent questions.

Today, I wont ask any of those. IT DOES NOT MATTER who the guy is. But then, what is the question we are not discussing? That would be: What is Tia's own MOTIVE in all of this? And what will be her motive BEYOND the upcoming failed Shitia wedding? Lets examine each possible motive to see where it leads us.

Firstly, the evidence for assumptions (for newbies, mostly).Clearly Tia's mother, and (pseudo?) brother are aware of her true story, even her lover knows and all are supporting her in doing this. We can be sure her mother (and father, with those shares he offered to blackmail Shivaay) are pushing Tia into this wedding. We know Robin forgets she is his sister sometimes, he lives with her, and is against this Shitia marriage. Lets not speculate who he is, that's not relevant right now. Daksh and she have not had a scene yet, but even if its Daksh--no matter. Tia herself is completely okay with going along with this sham marriage. The "Why?" could be Money, the most obvious one, or Revenge--which to me is looking less possible each day.


But if its money, then what will happen when Tia being already married is revealed? Right after the wedding, I have to assume, the ORIGINAL husband will show up--if only to stop his wife Tia being taken for the Suhaag Raat by her NEW husband. And whether that guy is Robin or Daksh, or a third party --we know, when it comes to Tia, he is possessive, and definitely not the type she can control easily. Do you see the Shitia marriage lasting for 10 years, while she drains them dry?


I don't see her playing this whole drama for much longer beyond the Shitia wedding pheras, frankly. The guy who is her real lover cant let her to do a Karvachauth in the heavily secure Oberoi Mansion, without showing up to be first in line. If I'm right, had the Shitia wedding even happened, it would have been over before Shivaay got to take that conveniently easy-hook blouse off his second hand bride.

So how will "they" get the money? Shivaay will be all forgiving and send over a truckload of cash and an "Unopened-Return to Sender" postal stamp on Tia's forehead? No, na? So the only possibility left is-- Tia reveals she tricked him, the mother and husband show up, the Oberoi's are humiliated, but hey the society wedding of the decade has just concluded. Where will their standing be in the media if this is revealed? Laughing stock hoga, stocks crash karega, vagera vagera. And Tia will helpfully agree to leave, threatening blackmail, and take money to quietly exit the picture. Now, as the Oberois NEVER divorce, she can still keep her money train running for a long time.


Clearly, a stupid plan--not least because if Shivaay knows she has a husband already, there was no legal Shitia marriage and thus no blackmail. If its just a lover, she keeps it quiet until the lover reveals it--again, same logic, he will not let her stay as Shivaay's wife, we know that. And if Shivaay decides to hell with it, he will not take this kind of power game played against him and his family, he is a predator himself. Tia /Mother /Husband are DEAD.


So second plan...revenge. Revenge for what? She is too high class to be Gayatri's family, frankly. No hint of Roop here, with her special brand of crazy, and Roop actually spoiled Tia's plan again and again by putting Shivaay out of commission before their wedding number 12 or whatever. SO this one, for me, is stupid too. Tia has NO REASON to take revenge.


The story so far does not support that in any way, and if anyone is being wronged, it is Shivaay. And Tia's overall attitude towards Shivaay is not negative, or cruel. She is not even mean to the OBros who, lets face it, don't treat her all that well. They make her quite unwelcome, and she takes it very sweetly, to be honest. I mean, if Anika and all those pesky feelings she brought had not entered the picture, I truly believe Tia would have made Shivaay an excellent wife. And I mean a fantastic, ideal socialite wife, even with her secret lover watching from outside the window. She would have gotten her romance and fun outside with the lover, and the money and respect and title inside with the husband. It would be a perfect marriage even for Shivaay, who would either not care about it, or not know about it.


So WHAT is Tia's plan? Because if she's still around AFTER the Shivika wedding, she still has a game in place with Shivaay that she needs to execute.

Gul cant sell her as a garden variety scorned girlfriend or rejected love interest Vamp here. She has no reason to be one because Tia is already cheating on HIM, and she does not have any feelings at all for Shivaay.
It cant be a whole "I will steal him back from Anika" because now that she knows all about the Shivaay-Anika connection, you would think she would warn Anika away, as opposed to doing this nonsensical match making. She is attacking Anika only to protect herself-- she is not attacking Shivaay's love for Anika. So even now, Tia is not possessive of Shivaay. Why should she be?
And if the marriage was going to be for blackmail or simply stealing long term, from the Oberois, after the Shivika marriage, obviously that's a closed door, no matter why or how the Shivika wedding occurs.

So answer me this, ladies--Why should she still be around after Shivika's marriage, as Gul has basically guaranteed in her posts, if its been just the money, all along?


Great post..!!
yes you are right..!! It can't be any revenge.. as remember she said to her mom 'Shivaay is the best option'...!! So seems like it has something to do with money only...!!
What an irony..!! SSO is calling Annika a 'gold digger', but it'll be Tia who is after his money..!!

It's not an Ekta show, otherwise kundali etc would have been a possibility..!!

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