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Posted: 4 years ago
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I know many of u are quite disappointed with the turns of events and how the leads are being potrayed. But i have some points to add. This is purely my opinion

1.

I ne ver find Vansh a criminal or a mafia. He is a buisnessman and he has some dark ways to keep his buisness affairs smoothing.Such kind of buisness such as diamond,gold and others need mafia contacts.You dont need to b a mafia for that.I still feel Neha 's murder owes a clarification to us.

2.Most of the mafia story is baked by our honourable cop Mr Kabir Sharma who has already shown us his dark and obnoxious face. Vansh let Kabir go off in the first episode is still a question to me Why?

3. Riddhima was under an extremely opposite and false impression that kabir has potrayed to him.So it is necessary to show a completely different side of Vansh or the caring and positive side of Vansh who actually is a family man to Riddhima whom she was consideirng a cold blooded murderer. The entire potrayal of Vansh that he is henious,merciless, a demon is baked by Kabir. Riddhima seemingly is unearthing the real Vansh and slowly has started questioning Kabir. She has clearly shown her trust Vansh .But at the same time, situations are being coming to her in such a way that she feels confused over what to vouch -Vansh as a criminal or Vansh as an innocent?The facts given and her emotional understanding does not match and none is there to show her the right track not even Dadi.....

4.Both Riansh are flawed character. Vansh has an apparent cold and ruthless cover and he had immense trust issues which is quite natural as life has been pretty harsh on him.

While Riddhima has the magnum flaw of making conclusion very hastily.From the day one she is driven by the apparent perception of everyone. She is blindly in trust with Kabir and her passionate side wants to conform a lover like Vansh.

When Kabir told her initially before she step into the mission that Vansh is a criminal she trusted him without any question.And now she is doing the same old mistake... relying more on the apparent proof and building conclusion.She rarely probes deeply into the matter.Its so because she is very pure and simple. Too much to be a spy. She is neither shrewd nor complicated so demanding her to be the smart intelligent cop like spy is a bit too much.I found Kabir equally responsible for this as he never trained her properly. Sehmat in Raazi or Divya in Crackdown was given almost 60 Days training but Kabir just sent her with some basic info and some vintage kind of gadgets to Vansh "s mansion. Despite staying for almost 2.5 months Riddhima never heard or seen Vansh making any illegal deal on the basis of which she can sent him jail except the icongruent mystery of Ragini.She is a simple girl and not someone who had an experience of being an under cover agent.

5.Her inner craving for a loving family and moreover a lover in form of a husband and all the relationship she wants to live happily ever after is tearing her apart. She is always seen in two minds that whether Vansh is a criminal or murderer or not. Her heart wants him to b an innocent and the facts represented tells some other story.Though she is trying to overshadow kabirs influence it cannot b erased easily as Vansh never clears out her misconception and Kabir never let her forget her mission.

6.It is impossible for Riddhima to confront him about Ragini as her cover will immediately blown. She knows very little about her husband and knowing a man is very important in a marriage for trusing him.

7.They are having a fatal attraction for each othr and the desire is more sensual and nymphic rather than being deep and platonic. They are under the spell of youthful desires but at the same time the air of suspicion is lurking around them like hounds.

8.Mamta already declared that it will b a romantic show with family drama with a mysterious ambience. They are still now stick to their word.Vansh since day one had shown that he knows to honour a womens dignity.I have never seen a person with criminal mindset to honour a lady in suchba way. The mystic aura he he had wrapped around himself is just a shell or a cover... His surroundings have made him like this and we need to wait and watch how much lie Kabir had said about him bcoz Anu.herself told Kabir that Vansh needs to b eliminated as the first of their mission which means there is much more in their mission which is still unknown.

Lastly Riddhima is still unaware of Kabir 's real face and Vansh is unaware of Riddhima being the girlfriend of Kabir. This two truths surely gonna shake the paradise of Riansh and a vast paradigm shift in their character is bound to happen.

Enough for today i hope u will like my opinion . Pls share ur feedback.



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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well written post 👍🏼 I am totally agree with you. For me when I was in India 20 years ago I knows one of don(my husband is architect and he was handling one of 5 star hotel design)we meet him his family pooja, he is very normal and nice and family man in home...so if Vansh is mafia then also I can connect with him yaar he is human too na.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I don't know where to start, it's best in order.

1.

What adorns every businessman is that some dark side, there aren't too many people around him and he doesn't trust anyone. Vansh is a mafia that's for sure, I mean he pushed the girl Kabir sent off the tower. So it’s not that Vansh is a saint, but I don’t believe he’s a psychopath who kills people either. I really think there’s a lot more to be explained, for example Ridhima doesn’t look in the footage and in the picture as if her life is hanging by a thread. Now I don't know if it's up to the actress to act, or if the video and the picture are another trap for Riddhu. Vansh and his mother, is she alive or dead? Vansh says he hates his mother, but the truth is he still can't forgive her for leaving him.


2.

What Kabir said about Vansh to me is just jealousy. Nothing more. Kabir doesn't know the truth, he just guesses and invents. For example Vansh that he kidnapped Sejal, Kabir lied that he did not blink, and so he tried to convince Riddhu that Vansh was the one who kidnapped Sejal. His desire for revenge has no measure, he did not even spare his birth mother to take revenge on Vansh. So I agree with you on this. Honestly it seems to me that Vansh knows that Kabir is a son of AP. That may be the only reason he left Kabir alive.


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What Riddha needs is a fresh start. Everything she knows about Vansh is a lie, and everything she sees now is through another story. And now she is confused whether Vansh is a murderer or Vansh is a person who cannot see that she is burned at the stake. Her brain trusts Vansh for a moment, disbelieves him for a next second. Another problem is that she always needs evidence to believe him, and not for him to tell her or to prove it, but for her to find it herself.


4.

What Riddhu managed to find out without training the others failed to find out and they have been in that villa all their lives (Kabir and AP). In my opinion, Riddha should decide whether she is a girl from Kabir and she will do everything to put Vansh in prison, or she is Vansh wife and will stand by him until the end. This is how she plays, she is a bit of a spy and then she is a bit of a family member.

In this whole game, she is the most damaged and deceived. Whether it is Kabir or Vansh. Kabir because he used it for his revenge, or Vansh who doesn't know what he wants.


5.

Family that's the only advantage Vansh has over Kabir. He has a family, and he is ready to die for his family. Riddhu has no family, and for her this whole situation is new, the love given to her by Dadi and Sya, or Ishani and all her antics, for her it is priceless and irreplaceable.


6.

The problem is not that she is asking him, so far Riddhu has not been asked questions about Ragini, she has been accusing him. So now, even if Riddhu asks, I don't believe she would get the truth in response. Trust is the basis of any relationship.


7.

The two of them have a passion, a desire for each other. But love is still a distant future for the two of them. They still have a lot to learn about each other, little things are trivial but they are very important. Trust is one of the problems they have as a couple. It’s not that only Riddha doesn’t trust Vansh and he doesn’t trust her.


8.

This is a romantic thriller, where there are the least thrillers, and love is like a ball, the class is at one end of the field and then it is at the other. Vansh respects women and criminals don't do that, we have a Kabir policeman who doesn't respect women, we have Riddha who is an orphan but is smart. There is everything, but again, it is as if something is missing in the story itself. We have a bunch of mysteries that can't be solved.


When the truth comes out there will be drama and accusations and crying all of this will have to be in huge quantities.


I just written so long post anyway I think our opinions agree.


Edited by sumatra1234 - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by Pyaar 2012


Great post & insights by both you and @sumatra1234


I'm learning to take a seat back & just enjoy the show and healthy IF forum to exchange views so I will go with your viewpoints ;

1) Its Kabir who has pitted Vansh as a white collared criminal..running a legit busines but doing illegal business under the cover...Kabir from scene 1& 2 grudingly admitted that Vansh's business is doing well...no wonder Kabir wants to take kingdom over...Vansh himself has never said he is Mafia...he knows what he is & does not need to explain...to me he is a multifaceted complex character...ruthless to those who cross him and will do anything for family


2) Kabir is desperate to see Vansh out of the picture, after two years perhaps more he is no closer to getting Vansh jailed...his policeman skills are negligible to say the least...all he can say to Rhiddunis that Vansh is a big big criminal...where is evidence of such? For such a mastermind policeman Kabir didnt even send Rhiddu details of Ragini to begin with..

Kabir is envious & jealous of Vansh..he believes his birthright was stolen by Vansh, he will always compare and will always be found lacking..the reationship bwt Vansh and Kabir is longstanding..Tom and Jerry abd Kabir is always at losing edge


3) Rhiddu was fed a story...an incorect one to begin with but having entered as an inept spy she is quite masterful in observing hidden mysteries..she is learning that not everything is as it is and slowly but surely will uncover all dark secrets.. hers will come out too either she unveils it or its done for her.


4) Absolutely agree with you they are both flawed characters...that is part of the charm and pairing of cast..in the flaws we see our own shadows..Vansh wants trust and loyalty without question and he will give you the world...but he wont reveal of himself... Rhiddu wants to know the man behind the mask, she has uncovered a lot..but her failing is her hasty jumping to conclusion of each and every character and to be guilty but the biggest failing is to not see behind Kabirs true mask... she has ended relationship with Kabir but has not questioned his police investigations...what has she learnt about any of Vansh's illegal dealings..zero.


5) From the start I have always said Rhiddus character was in love with the illusion of love...when she started to fall in love she realises the price she will pay for her decption can end in death and she said a few episodes ago she is ready for any punishment by Vansh. She finally has the family and love through Siya, Vansh and Dadi... that she has bern looking for and np matter how badly the rest of family treat her being the pure soul she is she wants to bring out the best in them.


6) She believes Vansh will forgive her if she reveals her truth and I believe he will but only if she tells him of her truth first and accepts him as he is, regardless of Ragini japp. But if her truth is revealed by anyone else other than her it will be too late for her.


7l They are drawn to each other like a moth to a flame.. they cannot and will not be able to let go...their minds and intellect may say different but their hearts and bodies have already claimed each other..no matter what misunderstandings or separations (temporarily might take place) these two lonely peope have found their heart and home with each other.


8) Its a thriller with romance...family plots and plans, deception and at the heart of it RiAnsh... bring it on...(only the romantic in me wants them to be united in the end)


Chalo for now

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Posted: 4 years ago
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It seems we both agree in almost all the posts.I am happy u guyz think alike varna I get so depressed to go to AT. Too much negativity is prevailing there.

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Originally posted by: pyaar2012

It seems we both agree in almost all the posts.I am happy u guyz think alike varna I get so depressed to go to AT. Too much negativity is prevailing there.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Agreed.

You have put all valid points.

It's true that the recent episodes are a bit monotonous but i guess the reason they are not able to show a proper thriller part is due to the pandemic situation. Many outdoor shootings are required for that like the initial few episodes which is a bit risky for now as already few cast members were affected.

Secondly, about the way the lead characters are portrayed..... There is nothing that much disappointing as people are saying. Ridhhu is a simple girl, an orphan who was manipulated by Kabir to enter this deadly mission. She saw him as her "hero", as an honest police officer/agent who fought injustice and she readily agreed to help him. Though it's her fault that she wasn't smart enough to deny him and see through his motives... But that's what blind love and trust does to a person. She was already a physiotherapist, following her passion for the job. All she needed was love and a family to make her world complete..... And she thought Kabir can give all that to her. So she believed everything he said to her about the mission and Vansh.

After entering that mansion and marrying Vansh, she is witnessing a different side of Vansh...especially after the shootout... Much different from what Kabir told her. It's still not clear if he is a mafia or not.... But he is surely a family man...... He might be a shrewd, cunning and tough man but he has emotions. He has been through so much all his life(we still don't know in what way he feels betrayed by his mother and Ragini) which has made him build barriers around him as said by Dadi. Ridhhu has the capability to break into those walls. They are surely not in love but they are fatally attracted towards each other. Initially it was Vansh who was holding onto this marriage(be it for exposing her, but subconsciously he did) but now Ridhhu has also put a step forward in this relationship. If both are willing to make amends, then it is obvious that they would start falling for each other slowly and steadily. Many viewers are disappointed about the way Ridhhu ended it with Kabir...... I too agree she should have ended it on a proper note from her side..... But she dint exactly betray him. Vansh has given her all the love and care when she needed it the most even after knowing that she is a spy and might harm him and his family.... Which I guess nobody not even Kabir ever did to her. In the process of getting to her truth, He gave her a new identity and a family(at least Dadi, sia and now Angre, love her and respect her as Vansh's wife. Even Chacha has not shown any disregard towards her till date,though he might in the future episodes.) .So we should stop blaming Ridhhu for this for a moment and recall how Kabir too started behaving visibly odd towards her after the shootout and even threatened her at a point. She might not acknowledge it but she knows it in her bones that something is definitely wrong with him. So he kinda deserved it. Kabir dint even train her properly and sent her within a day or two...so it would be too much to expect from her spying skills.

Even Vansh never thought that someday someone will legit take a bullet for him... He himself acknowledged that it rarely happens to him.......and of course this is the truth..... He is the one protecting everyone from everything all the time..... But that was perhaps the first time someone saved his life without any regard for her own life. Not that one time, she also saved him when he got poisoned. Dadi also said that now a days no wife would literally become a shield for her husband. All this has stirred something inside him and it's completely normal for him to develop feelings for her.

Both Vansh and Ridhhu are exploring each other with each passing moment. Vansh now knows that she is a pure soul and Ridhhu now knows that he is much more than what Kabir said to her and not completely evil. Ridhhu will be confused now probably after the promo we saw and might start trusting Kabir's words again...She is stuck between the 2 men now and can't understand whom to believe....that was bound to happen... Let's see what they have in store for us.....I can't comment on anything as of now without watching tonight's episode. But I really want her to stop making hasty conclusions for a while and dig deeper into the matter. Moreover she is not totally declaring Aryan as the culprit and chose to watch the full video instead before judging anything. So I guess we can hope for the best always.

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Sorry for a bit long post😅but completely agree with your POV.

Edited by Sunshine_nino - 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sunshine_nino

Agreed.

You have put all valid points.

It's true that the recent episodes are a bit monotonous but i guess the reason they are not able to show a proper thriller part is due to the pandemic situation. Many outdoor shootings are required for that like the initial few episodes which is a bit risky for now as already few cast members were affected.

Secondly, about the way the lead characters are portrayed..... There is nothing that much disappointing as people are saying. Ridhhu is a simple girl, an orphan who was manipulated by Kabir to enter this deadly mission. She saw him as her "hero", as an honest police officer/agent who fought injustice and she readily agreed to help him. Though it's her fault that she wasn't smart enough to deny him and see through his motives... But that's what blind love and trust does to a person. She was already a physiotherapist, following her passion for the job. All she needed was love and a family to make her world complete..... And she thought Kabir can give all that to her. So she believed everything he said to her about the mission and Vansh.

After entering that mansion and marrying Vansh, she is witnessing a different side of Vansh...especially after the shootout... Much different from what Kabir told her. It's still not clear if he is a mafia or not.... But he is surely a family man...... He might be a shrewd, cunning and tough man but he has emotions. He has been through so much all his life(we still don't know in what way he feels betrayed by his mother and Ragini) which has made him build barriers around him as said by Dadi. Ridhhu has the capability to break into those walls. They are surely not in love but they are fatally attracted towards each other. Initially it was Vansh who was holding onto this marriage(be it for exposing her, but subconsciously he did) but now Ridhhu has also put a step forward in this relationship. If both are willing to make amends, then it is obvious that they would start falling for each other slowly and steadily. Many viewers are disappointed about the way Ridhhu ended it with Kabir...... I too agree she should have ended it on a proper note from her side..... But she dint exactly betray him. Vansh has given her all the love and care when she needed it the most even after knowing that she is a spy and might harm him and his family.... Which I guess nobody not even Kabir ever did to her. In the process of getting to her truth, He gave her a new identity and a family(at least Dadi, sia and now Angre, love her and respect her as Vansh's wife. Even Chacha has not shown any disregard towards her till date,though he might in the future episodes.) .So we should stop blaming Ridhhu for this for a moment and recall how Kabir too started behaving visibly odd towards her after the shootout and even threatened her at a point. She might not acknowledge it but she knows it in her bones that something is definitely wrong with him. So he kinda deserved it. Kabir dint even train her properly and sent her within a day or two...so it would be too much to expect from her spying skills.

Even Vansh never thought that someday someone will legit take a bullet for him... He himself acknowledged that it rarely happens to him.......and of course this is the truth..... He is the one protecting everyone from everything all the time..... But that was perhaps the first time someone saved his life without any regard for her own life. Not that one time, she also saved him when he got poisoned. Dadi also said that now a days no wife would literally become a shield for her husband. All this has stirred something inside him and it's completely normal for him to develop feelings for her.

Both Vansh and Ridhhu are exploring each other with each passing moment. Vansh now knows that she is a pure soul and Ridhhu now knows that he is much more than what Kabir said to her and not completely evil. Ridhhu will be confused now probably after the promo we saw and might start trusting Kabir's words again...She is stuck between the 2 men now and can't understand whom to believe....that was bound to happen... Let's see what they have in store for us.....I can't comment on anything as of now without watching tonight's episode. But I really want her to stop making hasty conclusions for a while and dig deeper into the matter. Moreover she is not totally declaring Aryan as the culprit and chose to watch the full video instead before judging anything. So I guess we can hope for the best always.

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Sorry for a bit long post😅but completely agree with your POV.

Thank u sunshine. U really echoed my perception and such detailed discussions are always appreciated.
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Originally posted by: pyaar2012

It seems we both agree in almost all the posts.I am happy u guyz think alike varna I get so depressed to go to AT. Too much negativity is prevailing there.

That’s because fans love Riddhu and Vansh too much. So they are on the side of Vansh and then they are a bit on the side of Riddhu. We want old Vansh back, and now we complain that he's acting like that. We want smart Riddhu and we protest when she spies. It's hard to please the people.

These days we have almost a lot of filter episodes, so here on the forum it's a bit negative. AP and her drama are horrible, and last week almost after the episode we had about 5 minutes of her and her drama. And now they just switched to the drama of bahu and saas so we don’t like that either. Corona took on the set, so the story and scenes are a bit out of any order. All of that little by little and then the fans are angry and dissatisfied.

Sometimes I think people forget that this is just a series. And the series is not real life. Yesterday, Ishani was attacked so much for her behavior towards Angre. When I watched the episode, I couldn't understand why, the scene wasn't so bad and neither was Ishani's behavior. I mean Ishani was forced into marriage, just as Riddhu was forced. Riddhu did a lot worse things than Ishani so I don’t remember the fans attacking her so much.


again I wrote a long post.😃




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Posted: 4 years ago
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Loved reading all the responses here. Viewer's are in sync with the character's graphs shown so far.

With Kabir, Ridhima was probably more in love with the illusion of love and the family life she craves.

Whereas, with Vansh she is getting to taste the raw, unfiltered version of these feelings that makes her catch her breath.

In her relationship with Kabir she gave.

In her relationship with Vansh her emotions are out of her control.

The safety she felt with Kabir was mostly from her side.

Whereas with Vansh - she could feel it in the depth of her bones that she's completely safe around him and nothing and no one will be a able to touch her, as he says.

Two lonely, deprived hearts - one too innocent for this harsh world and the other beaten to the core with deception by near one's. The journey to reach each other won't be a smooth ride. Their own past and experience will be their greatest wall between them - yet at the same time will be the balm to the others wounded self.

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