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Posted: 13 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: ramya567

@tm

u r saying tht ppl hate sumit just because he got role tht Arjun should do.So u r accepting tht this forum majority of people are rati/arti/mayur fans and only very less sumit fans.
For ur information,Let me tell u tht PH didnot take Arjun for Rishi role.Arjun gave look test for Sameer role and it was supposed to be a positive one.But cv's in order to proceed story made in a negative and psycho one.They are afraid tht if they show Arjun so badly onscreen,fans would literally hit them.
And coming to the fans,many fans stopped watching the show.Rati/Sumit/forum rankings and trp's
are the proofs.We shouldn't consider people who are in the forums only.There are lakhs of people in India and outside India who donot come to forums but watch the show.
Many of them were not impressed by the lead pair chemistry.thats why thy r switching to other shows and thats why trp's have gone down.2.6 avg to below 2.1,u can imagine.But other shows on the other channels at the same time slot were able to make 3.5 to 5.
Now u tell me where the difference lies?Story wise HD has a good concept,family show,full of drama and emotions,even thy introduced love story also for trp's,it has filmi type villians and psycho.The screenplay some times is like a mystery thriller.Very good actors.What the show is lacking---- chemistry and humour.
No one really dislikes Sumit i think.Sumit is a good actor and dng good in the show But ppl are not happy with rishi and Indira chemistry.Even PH is also trying abhinav becoz they have noticed this i think.
And regarding Sameer or sumer now,Sumit/Rishi fans never spoke a postive word.They always mocked posts and ppl who liked them.Don't feel wrong abt that.U r feeling so bad tht ppl are hating sumit.At the same time,u try to make a post asking all sumit/rishi fans to respect fnas opinions who like other actors who are a part of this show.

Sorry if I am rude in my reply.But i wanted to say this from many days.There is always a policy called "GIVE AND TAKE ".Sumit fans want other fns to like sumit/rishi but sadest part is tht they cannot give the same to other fans and actors


i agree...a set of fans should not be blamed really...there may be abhinav fans out there who generally want to see him as a lead and not a cameo as he has done in shows so far...

@tm
as for hd the lead pair is indira and rishi and will remain so until the end...you should leave it too the cvs and see how they progress the story line...usually in serials they bring in other heros but the lead pair are still the lead pair...and lots of people have accepted that...but in the case of ANY lead pair some people like some dont...its a matter of choice and opinion and we are here in these forums to give our opinion and listen to others...
now honestly i am really sick of hearing arjuns name in this forum..apart from the time he has given a look test he has not been a part of hd yet why is he mentioned every so ofter in the forum?

anyway as per the topic...indira and rishi are leads of hd and nothing is in our hands! all is in the hands of cvs!
Edited by sanat11 - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#12
i think the trps were rocking in the january february days when the inshi romance and flirting were on a full swing
i keep a close check on them and that time hd was at its peak

this continuos depressing and negative atmosphere that has started after the rape track is obviously the reason why nobody bothers to watch

they better revert back to thier old lighthearted formula otherwise there wont be many viewers left

and for sumit and rati they are doing a fine job with the material they are given
i love rati nobody else could play indira like her and adore sumit i dont think anyone can play such a charming fun loving kirayeedar
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Posted: 13 years ago
#13

Originally posted by: ramya567

@tm

u r saying tht ppl hate sumit just because he got role tht Arjun should do.So u r accepting tht this forum majority of people are rati/arti/mayur fans and only very less sumit fans.
For ur information,Let me tell u tht PH didnot take Arjun for Rishi role.Arjun gave look test for Sameer role and it was supposed to be a positive one.But cv's in order to proceed story made in a negative and psycho one.They are afraid tht if they show Arjun so badly onscreen,fans would literally hit them.
And coming to the fans,many fans stopped watching the show.Rati/Sumit/forum rankings and trp's
are the proofs.We shouldn't consider people who are in the forums only.There are lakhs of people in India and outside India who donot come to forums but watch the show.
Many of them were not impressed by the lead pair chemistry.thats why thy r switching to other shows and thats why trp's have gone down.2.6 avg to below 2.1,u can imagine.But other shows on the other channels at the same time slot were able to make 3.5 to 5.
Now u tell me where the difference lies?Story wise HD has a good concept,family show,full of drama and emotions,even thy introduced love story also for trp's,it has filmi type villians and psycho.The screenplay some times is like a mystery thriller.Very good actors.What the show is lacking---- chemistry and humour.
No one really dislikes Sumit i think.Sumit is a good actor and dng good in the show But ppl are not happy with rishi and Indira chemistry.Even PH is also trying abhinav becoz they have noticed this i think.
And regarding Sameer or sumer now,Sumit/Rishi fans never spoke a postive word.They always mocked posts and ppl who liked them.Don't feel wrong abt that.U r feeling so bad tht ppl are hating sumit.At the same time,u try to make a post asking all sumit/rishi fans to respect fnas opinions who like other actors who are a part of this show.

Sorry if I am rude in my reply.But i wanted to say this from many days.There is always a policy called "GIVE AND TAKE ".Sumit fans want other fns to like sumit/rishi but sadest part is tht they cannot give the same to other fans and actors


Ramya I have to agree with you on the small point you have raised in your statement. The part I marked in bold is sadly true. Inshi are married and there is no scope for insecurity here. Whatever happens, an affair outside of the lead pairs marriage is still a far cry in Indian soaps. So Abhinav's character might develop a soft corner for Indira. But who doesn't. We all did. If the mutual support was there I believe Sumit's fan numbers would have burgeoned by the Rati fans too. Its sad that not only are chars been maligned due to crazy unsupported articles randomly found written on the internet but the division is so grt that sumit fans have forgotten to support Rati and indira in this forum as well. I can still understand why Sumer is maligned(Every article on him has been filled with negetive criticism started by someone who call themselves die-hard Rishi fans) 😕 but Indira???!!! She is delivering her finest acting in the last few episodes especially yesterday,

Topic starter: Anywho coming back to the topic. Rishi, Sumit is irreplaceable. I have no sort of insecurity abt Inshi. I know they are meant to be and I love them together just like I loved Rati with someone else in some other paradigm I adore Inshi and our green eyed hero Sumit . Sumer is not a replacement. He is just a temporary filler. So chill. 😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: ramya567

@tm

u r saying tht ppl hate sumit just because he got role tht Arjun should do.So u r accepting tht this forum majority of people are rati/arti/mayur fans and only very less sumit fans.
For ur information,Let me tell u tht PH didnot take Arjun for Rishi role.Arjun gave look test for Sameer role and it was supposed to be a positive one.But cv's in order to proceed story made in a negative and psycho one.They are afraid tht if they show Arjun so badly onscreen,fans would literally hit them.
And coming to the fans,many fans stopped watching the show.Rati/Sumit/forum rankings and trp's
are the proofs.We shouldn't consider people who are in the forums only.There are lakhs of people in India and outside India who donot come to forums but watch the show.
Many of them were not impressed by the lead pair chemistry.thats why thy r switching to other shows and thats why trp's have gone down.2.6 avg to below 2.1,u can imagine.But other shows on the other channels at the same time slot were able to make 3.5 to 5.
Now u tell me where the difference lies?Story wise HD has a good concept,family show,full of drama and emotions,even thy introduced love story also for trp's,it has filmi type villians and psycho.The screenplay some times is like a mystery thriller.Very good actors.What the show is lacking---- chemistry and humour.
No one really dislikes Sumit i think.Sumit is a good actor and dng good in the show But ppl are not happy with rishi and Indira chemistry.Even PH is also trying abhinav becoz they have noticed this i think.
And regarding Sameer or sumer now,Sumit/Rishi fans never spoke a postive word.They always mocked posts and ppl who liked them.Don't feel wrong abt that.U r feeling so bad tht ppl are hating sumit.At the same time,u try to make a post asking all sumit/rishi fans to respect fnas opinions who like other actors who are a part of this show.

Sorry if I am rude in my reply.But i wanted to say this from many days.There is always a policy called "GIVE AND TAKE ".Sumit fans want other fns to like sumit/rishi but sadest part is tht they cannot give the same to other fans and actors


I am sorry but your post is severely wrong at many levels


1. Chemistry and trps
Inshi has been the "jaan" of the show since day one. When it was good, we saw 2.6, 2.7 trps. Even in late march / early april the trp was in this range. Illa Bedi has openly acknowledged that many people were disappointed that Inshi marriage did not happen

She certainly did not hear this from forum. There must have been credible data that fed that acknowledgement.

so Inshi was there when trps were high. was the chemistry not there then? Is the chemistry just becoming visible to viewers? were the viewers oblivious to lack of chemistry when they were rooting for the show?

Or is it that the storyline after the rape trial went bonkers?

Chemistry is in teh eye of beholder. Ratians who fell in love with Mayur/ArTi have never quite been able to accept Sumit, whether it is his acting or his physical appearance and now even his alleged lack of sexual prowess. And Sumitians are mean?

No one knew Sumit before this show. Such is his chemistry and his acting that he has gained thousands of followers. You may not see their chemistry but lakhs do


2. Sexy candy for viewers
Abhinav, Mrunal are sexy candy thrown in for cheap thrills, just as the famous Indira rain dance in red saree. It was a copy of so many films where the lead actresses (like Sridevi) is shown running in slow motion in a red saree and then dancing. Rati was also shown in slow motion running. Her getup was obviously designed to catch the eye of male audience. Indira normally has shown to be very modest in her clothes. But everything in this getup and that ill-conceived marriage track had "get roving male eye" written

So if the proposition is that Abhinav/Mrunal have been brought in because Rishi does not cut it in the "sexy" quotient or chemistry quotient, I can argue that Rati was hown in that sexy getup running in slow motion as well as rain dance because Indira was not cutting it in the "sexy" quotient.

What is good for the goose is also good for the gander!



3. Small mindedness of Sumit fans
Just an example, Rati did not get nominated for awards recently. Guess how many die-hard Sumit fans were upset at this as soon as they heard it?over 90%
Everywhere on Facebook, on IF Sumtians expressed disappointment. No one even celebrated Sumit's nomination here on the forum that day.

The next day I created a post to celebrate all of HD characters and guess how many Ratians showed up? 0%.

I have yet to see a Ratian even pass a backhanded, grudging congratulations to Sumit ans Smita. And we are mean?

Not just praising Rati when I truly like her acting in threads started by Ratians, I have started threads praising her. Is vica-versa true?




4 . Sameer and Sumer
There have been plenty of anti-Sameer posts because of his character! Are we supposed to shed our sense of "good versus bad" just to appreciate a character for his good looks?

Was there anything redeeming in this psychopath that people could gush over (although there are a few Ratians who gush all over him, not because of his actions, but because of he is not Rishi)?

I am really baffled by this. How can a character be praised when he is so heinous?

Regarding Sumer, people were shocked that he would be the third wheel, and Indira may fall for him. Again question of "good", "morality" kicks in as how can Indira fall for Sumer when she is married? People were disgusted at that look she gave him and totally forgot that that was her wedding day.

If you noticed Mrunal himself was rarely criticized by Sumitians even when they found his acting poor. Yet Sumit is called all sorts of names, threads are started insulting his teeth, his smile, his complexion etc etc, some even descending to sewer level

Do you call this fair?

No Sumitian has insulted Abhinav, nor created a post on his lack of acting. I personally feels he looks like tv version of John Abraham. But his face has been utterly blank.



So you tell me, how much abuse do Sumitians engage in versus Mayur / ArTi fans?

Enough is enough. There has to be some fairness, some honest appraisal. Rati fandom has veered into religion territory


If the atmosphere had not been toxic here since day one, we would have seen a lively forum here, and not seen people leaving in droves

It is very easy to blame others, but hard to examine truth







PS: And this remark ranks -9 on bitterness level of karela on the "honey dipped karela" scale for Inshians
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Edited by jjkg - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: jjkg


I am sorry but your post is severely wrong at many levels


1. Chemistry and trps
Inshi has been the "jaan" of the show since day one. When it was good, we saw 2.6, 2.7 trps. Even in late march / early april the trp was in this range. Illa Bedi has openly acknowledged that many people were disappointed that Inshi marriage did not happen

She certainly did not hear this from forum. There must have been credible data that fed that acknowledgement.

so Inshi was there when trps were high. was the chemistry not there then? Is the chemistry just becoming visible to viewers? were the viewers oblivious to lack of chemistry when they were rooting for the show?

Or is it that the storyline after the rape trial went bonkers?

Chemistry is in teh eye of beholder. Ratians who fell in love with Mayur/ArTi have never quite been able to accept Sumit, whether it is his acting or his physical appearance and now even his alleged lack of sexual prowess. And Sumitians are mean?

No one knew Sumit before this show. Such is his chemistry Aand his acting that he has gained thousands of followers. You may not see their chemistry but lakhs do


2. Sexy candy for viewers
Abhinav, Mrunal are sexy candy thrown in for cheap thrills, just as the famous Indira rain dance in red saree. It was a copy of so many films where the lead actresses (like Sridevi) is shown running in slow motion in a red saree and then dancing. Rati was also shown in slow motion running. Her getup was obviously designed to catch the eye of male audience. Indira normally has shown to be very modest in her clothes. But everything of this getup and that ill-conceived marriage track had "get roving male eye" written

So if the proposition is that Abhinav/Mrunal have been brought in because Rishi does not cut it in the "sexy" quotient, I can argue that Rati was hown in that sexy getup running in slow motion as
well as rain dance becaue Indira was not cutting it in the "sexy" quotient.

What is good for the goose is also good for the gander!


3. Small mindedness of Sumit fans
Just an example, Rati did not get nominated for awards recently. Guess how many die-hard Sumit fans were upset at this as soon as they heard it?over 90%
Everywhere on Facebook, on IF Sumtians expressed disappointment. No one even celebrated Sumit's nomination here on the forum that day. The next day I created a post to celebrate all of HD characters and guess how many Ratians showed up? 0%. I have yet to see a Ratian even pass a backhanded, grudging congratulations to Sumit ans Smita. And we are mean?



4 . Sameer and Sumer
There have been plenty of anti-Sameer posts because of his character! Are we supposed to shed our sense of "good versus bad" just to appreciate a character for his good looks. Was there anything redeeming in this psychopath that people could gush over (although there are a few Ratians who gush all over him, not because of his actions, but because of he is not Rishi)?

I am really baffled by this. How can a character be praised when he is so heinous?

Regarding Sumer, people were shocked that he would be the third wheel, and Indira may fall for him. Again question of "good", "morality" kicks in as how can Indira fall for Sumer when she is married? People were disgusted at that look she gave him and totally forgot that that was her wedding day.

If you noticed Mrunal himself was rarely criticized by Sumitians even when they found his acting poor. Yet Sumit is called all sorts of names, threads are started insulting his teeth, his smile, his complexion etc etc.

Do you call this fair?

No Sumitian has insulted Abhinav, nor created a post on his lack of acting. I personally feels he looks like tv version of John Abraham. But his face has been utterly blank.



So you tell me, how much abuse do Sumitians engage in versus Mayur/ArTi fans?

Enough is enough. There has to be some fairness, some honest appraisal.


Hi JJKG! Thank you for such an honest answer.Yes criticizing Sameer was definitely legit. MY god that was one bad character. And all the psychosis was too much to handle. Extremely negative. I would not say Abhinav was insulted but the anti Indira- Sumer petitioning was a bit OTT since the possibility of such a scenario seems impossible to me at least, Maybe a little soft corner on Sumer's part but that's it. As for the look Indira gave Sumer. She appreciateed an honest cop becuase that earns positive cookies in her little book. I dont think it was predicated on the fact that she had supposedly forgotten Rishi. Its just her nature to support strong willed honest pple. She did the same with Rishi months ago. But she stopped Sumer figuring he was a corrupt cop. As for Sumitians mourning Rati not being nominated. 100% true, On Facebook thats definitely the case. I would love to congratulate Sumit and Smita here personally for their well deserved nomination since I could not find their respecting felicitation threads. But I did not forget to log into the tellyawards online portal to vote for both of them. 😉And by the way I was and probably am a diehard Artian and Mayurian but that did not stop me from loving Inshi, indira/Rati or Sumit/Rishi, So the objectification of each and every one who loved Mayur in MJHT when it was on was uncalled for.😊 There are a lot of Mayur fans out there who are Inshi fans too. You got to consider us as well no? But sometimes I do feel the Rishi insecurities creep up so high that Inshians and Sumitians forget Rati. She is half the reason Inshi is popular. But like I said this is not applicable to everyone. But definitely those few biased voices stand out like you mentioned in your post. Hope I did not offend you. Thanks for reading.
Edited by AnkitalovesHD - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
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its just a brain torcher so just ignore it dear ...

sumit is great actor of-course he has many hatter too 😆 ...
jo h name wala wohi too badnam hai ...😉
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnkitalovesHD


Hi JJKG! Thank you for such an honest answer.Yes criticizing Sameer was definitely legit. MY god that was one bad character. And all the psychosis was too much to handle. Extremely negative. I would not say Abhinav was insulted but the anti Indira- Sumer petitioning was a bit OTT since the possibility of such a scenario seems impossible to me at least, Maybe a little soft corner on Sumer's part but that's it. As for the look Indira gave Sumer. She appreciateed an honest cop becuase that earns positive cookies in her little book. I dont think it was predicated on the fact that she had supposedly forgotten Rishi. Its just her nature to support strong willed honest pple. She did the same with Rishi months ago. But she stopped Sumer figuring he was a corrupt cop. As for Sumitians mourning Rati not being nominated. 100% true, On Facebook thats definitely the case. I would love to congratulate Sumit and Smita here personally for their well deserved nomination since I could not find their respecting felicitation threads. But I did not forget to log into the tellyawards online portal to vote for both of them. 😉And by the way I was and probably diehard Artian and Mayurian but that did not stop me from loving Inshi, indira/Rati or Sumit/Rishi, So the objectification of each and every one who loved Mayur in MMJHT when it was one was uncalled for.😊 Hope I did not offend you. Thanks for reading.



Thaks for wonderful comment and wonderful feedback/pushback❤️

I stand corrected.

with heartfelt appreciation
J

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Posted: 13 years ago
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sumit vats is awesome just ignore these haters they have nothing better to do...why are they even watching the show in the first place...SUMIT ROCKS!!!!!!!!!
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@jjkg

You post conveyed exactly what was on my mind. Sumit fans have always been very found of and has very well accepted rati. But it is not very well reciprocated by ratians. And yes i am yet to find a ratian say a good word about sumit. I also dont understand why "ANYONE ELSE" is better than sumit. Whats so wrong with sumit, that they will accept any one else.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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replacement no ways lov sumit vats...

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