SaiRat hugs & scenes are SO awkward!

I can't be the only one who can very easily see through this.. This is no baseless theory or assumption to hate... From using body doubles of ML in hug to close proximity scenes to him being distant apart from the FL in every scene. ML is always in Pakhi's personal space...

Virat shares closer proximity with Pakhi & holds her hand with way tighter grip than he holds of Sai's and maintains 6 ft distance with her while dancing on her b'day or any other scene even if infront of others, that even a truck can pass by such is the distant & gap between their body. Even the pinning on wall scene was the worst and most lame executed scene I've seen on TV.

Their hug scenes are visibly awkward, so lame & ML's discomfort is so bloody apparent. He's distant apart from Sai even while hugging her. He doesn't even keep his arms & hands around FL's back. Just touches her hair that too with slight touch & which also is awkward. I see no difference in b/w ML's tight grip and hold of her FL even in hug scenes. It feels same as what it looks when he hugs Devyani or Ashwini... Gives vibes of casual friends or siblings heck even friendly hugs are way tighter & better even with siblings. Even the first hug which was tight one was initiated & mainly came from the FL... Their scenes have zilch intimacy among all other TV shows I've seen in my life. ML doesn't even touch FL properly. Heck Virat's dress doesn't touch Sai's. Specially if Pakhi is present in the scene.

My issue is what they are doing to the character Virat w.r.t Patralekha, since the time the whole harassment issue came up. This is the same Virat who stopped Patralekha from touching him in the hospital, from getting away from anykind of friendly touch she offered him with. What he did today with Patralekha was a gesture of friendly touch , was a friendly closeness. He could have done to anyone Karishma, Sonali Bua, or for that matter a sali as well if he had any. Audience have seen a lot of shows where the relationship between Bhabhi and devar, Sali and Jija have been loved. The bond loved more than the brother's or sister's bond in the show.

However like some are pointing out, he is holding his SIL's hand, well unfortunately she is not just his SIL. She is an ex who has showed interest in him after marriage, who has rebuked him for loving his wife, who insults his wife on a daily basis, who holds no regard for her husband and his brother, his Jeeva. The relationship is not just of BIL-SIL or friends. Why would a man who was jumping away from a particular person's touch has to hold her hand and go that close to a person to whisper. He any way was standing more close to her than he was to his wife. It was too close for my liking considering she is the same woman who he felt uncomfortable with. They are not friends anymore. Why do they and Virat keep forgetting what Patralekha is. Why give her a leverage to come and hold his hand get offended later on.???At least make him a bit more perceptive in that regard after what all has happened.

On the show he needs to be away from her, distanced, uncomfortable by her advances and not initiate any advances towards her. Because virat knows pp's intentions and cannot be shown leaning in too close to talk to her or holding her hand etc ....even the minutest physical contact between virat pp is unwelcome. Infact even standing too close to her is a problem. Virat looks more comfortable around Patralekha than he is around Sai as far as physical proximity is concerned. And what is the need to cut short/spoil the hug , giving the leverage of creativity everytime by the presence of third woman.

Virat looked quite comfortable with Patralekha in the recent episode, while asking her to act along, when just few moments back he was irritated with her.. When was their last interaction? During the whole Pendant issue? I get he is excited and all, but in excitement one cannot forget the discomfort one has towards the certain person in the house. If I have someone in my house, who is interested in me and I really am not comfortable, even in the happiest and exciting moments I wont be pally with him.

Distance is about level of comfort one shares and Patralekha and Virat no more share that kind of comfort, however they do share that offscreen.. This kind of situation breaks a continuity that has been developed for a particular character towards a particular character is broken. NB is an experienced actor, understands Virat beyond our comprehension and hence is capable of improvising his scenes , so expecting him to do here as well is not too much of an expectation . However the onus lies on the Director majorly to point out such things while they are shooting. The actors might not realise the distance while performing, but a good direction can find such issues easily.

Also I believe CVs need to keep this basic issue in mind that, in family scenes he is always standing closer to Patralekha than Sai , even when the two ladies are on his either sides.

ANd what was that romantic music that they usually play for the lead couple, being played for Virakhi? CVs need to get over with their obsessions with these two.

PS: your thread might be reported soon 😆

Agreed

Pasting a reply from the other thread

I haven't watched the episode. Just want to point out that criticism at the editing, proximity is not a criticism at Neil. It's the maker's, director's responsibility to take care of this.

However, the Virat-Pakhi scene during the DevKit skit and the scene near the dining table last day was pretty uncomfortable. She is his ex who has still has feelings for him. So he isn't supposed to act or stand cosy with her no matter what the situation is. If makers are intentionally doing this that will eventually raise a question on Virat's character. If he shows disgust at Pakhis touch he should also refrain from touching her. What is Pakhi made to understand from this? If its actors unknowingly becoming more comfortable with eo presence due to offscreen equations they should also make a note. If this is what writers actually want to show then the show is crap.

P.s- Not blaming anyone because don't know the actual reason

No matter what editing needs to improve for a show in the prime time slot

Just copying my comment from another post.

There has been so much said and talked about chemistry and comfort. But I have failed to see that when it comes to their proximity. Using a BD for such a poignant scene.. just a sheer coincidence?

Generally, with passing time people just get more comfortable, but I sense it otherwise here. For some reason, I end up comparing all their hug scenes with the first one that was Virat’s dream (where he runs after her and she is caught up in marsh). I understand the sequence, emotions were different, but yet I felt that it was more natural and real, than any of the others.

Its like those memes.. What I think is my morning look and what it is in reality🤦‍♀️

So despite the bad editing, angles, Distancing, abrupt cuts, use of body doubles Sairat chemistry despite it all is Still top notch for me. Toh sairat can create chemistry with no physical contact also whereas virat pp even when they are standing close to each other, hamd holding etc cannot evoke any magic. Sairat or virat-pp ka koi comparison hi nahi hai.bit just coz virat pp dont have chemistry doesn't mean they throw in pointless scenes of virat pp with no attention paid by makers to how virat comes across. One day he is uncomfortable with her adanvces preventing her from touching him and now hes so comfortable he is holding her hand and leaning too close to whisper. Makes virat looks silly n bipolar. Its credit to neils acting n virat pp's absolute disaster of a chemistry onscreen thst despite such scenes nothing can disrupt Sairar magic. Even a simple eyelock on Sairat comes out amazing because they both have reached that point now.

The problem is not the actors playying Sairat but malers who are so sloppy with editing, camera angles, etc that it is glaringly obvious.

Things like how close virat stands to pp are not rocket science. Neil himself should pay attention but its not his job, its the directors job to realize these little things.

There is no justification to explain how they decided to have a birthday track of FL without a hug scene between the leads and then thought of it last minute to shoot it with a BD who looks nothing like actor. 🙄 Also it wasn't just hug, the whole Sairat scene post aabaa imagination was done separately. Why would they shoot such an important emotional Sairat scene separately?! This is the job of crew- to ensure that actors scedules are made such that the leads are present for the important scenes.

If the scene looks good deapite shooting separately imagine how much more the Sairat scene would be if they were both shooting together.

Originally posted by: Nja91

So despite the bad editing, angles, Distancing, abrupt cuts, use of body doubles Sairat chemistry despite it all is Still top notch for me. Toh sairat can create chemistry with no physical contact also whereas virat pp even when they are standing close to each other, hamd holding etc cannot evoke any magic. Sairat or virat-pp ka koi comparison hi nahi hai.bit just coz virat pp dont have chemistry doesn't mean they throw in pointless scenes of virat pp with no attention paid by makers to how virat comes across. One day he is uncomfortable with her adanvces preventing her from touching him and now hes so comfortable he is holding her hand and leaning too close to whisper. Makes virat looks silly n bipolar. Its credit to neils acting n virat pp's absolute disaster of a chemistry onscreen thst despite such scenes nothing can disrupt Sairar magic. Even a simple eyelock on Sairat comes out amazing because they both have reached that point now.

The problem is not the actors playying Sairat but malers who are so sloppy with editing, camera angles, etc that it is glaringly obvious.

Things like how close virat stands to pp are not rocket science. Neil himself should pay attention but its not his job, its the directors job to realize these little things.

There is no justification to explain how they decided to have a birthday track of FL without a hug scene between the leads and then thought of it last minute to shoot it with a BD who looks nothing like actor. 🙄 Also it wasn't just hug, the whole Sairat scene post aabaa imagination was done separately. Why would they shoot such an important emotional Sairat scene separately?! This is the job of crew- to ensure that actors scedules are made such that the leads are present for the important scenes.

If the scene looks good deapite shooting separately imagine how much more the Sairat scene would be if they were both shooting together.

There is no comparison at all.

The director and Editor should take responsibility for creating mess..not the actors.There is no necessity to shoot the hug at last minute. The scene would have been ok without the hug but including it in such a shabby manner creates uproar among the viewers.

I haven't watched the epi yet, but from seeing the recent epi he is being too comfortable with Pakhi. I would think 10 times before holding hands with a half ex who is still stuck on you. The makers are completely to blame! I have yet to see the dance, but if reviews are to be believed, then I'd be disappointed that the makers gambled on a huge opportunity.

I wonder how much actors are asked to improvise or bring their own take on the screen? Because what I see is less Virat and more Neil when it comes to Pakhi scenes. He is naturally very comfortable around her and I think this is influencing his character quite a lot. There should be professionalism on the show and I'm sure actors do try their best, but when you mix personal stuff into it, the show does not feel authentic anymore. It's more force of habit than choice.

I also think Ayesha is very conscious doing these scenes with Virat knowing very well he is attached to someone who they both work with on the set! Actors really have to get into character and there's no half-commitment to initimate scenes unfortunately. They have to give it their 100%, and this is lacking because I'm sure the stage becomes somewhat awks.

Whatever the reasons are behind their visible distance on scenes, I do hope the makers rectify this quickly. It's impacting the show when they really should be cashing in from such beautiful scenes.

Originally posted by: BBFanForever

I can't be the only one who can very easily see through this.. This is no baseless theory or assumption to hate... From using body doubles of ML in hug to close proximity scenes to him being distant apart from the FL in every scene. ML is always in Pakhi's personal space...

Virat shares closer proximity with Pakhi & holds her hand with way tighter grip than he holds of Sai's and maintains 6 ft distance with her while dancing on her b'day or any other scene even if infront of others, that even a truck can pass by such is the distant & gap between their body. Even the pinning on wall scene was the worst and most lame executed scene I've seen on TV.

Their hug scenes are visibly awkward, so lame & ML's discomfort is so bloody apparent. He's distant apart from Sai even while hugging her. He doesn't even keep his arms & hands around FL's back. Just touches her hair that too with slight touch & which also is awkward. I see no difference in b/w ML's tight grip and hold of her FL even in hug scenes. It feels same as what it looks when he hugs Devyani or Ashwini... Gives vibes of casual friends or siblings heck even friendly hugs are way tighter & better even with siblings. Even the first hug which was tight one was initiated & mainly came from the FL... Their scenes have zilch intimacy among all other TV shows I've seen in my life. ML doesn't even touch FL properly. Heck Virat's dress doesn't touch Sai's. Specially if Pakhi is present in the scene.

Again haven’t watched the show for a while, but did watch some clips. I did watch the awkward hug and Pakhi hand holding. Totally, Uncalled for. Who would in right mind hold hand of a person whose touches they have rejected? Who would touch someone they know are interested in them while they reject the I terest with disgust? I feel in that scene Pakhi should’ve screamed at Birat and asked him to never touch her the way he screams at her!!

Hug scene and the whole conversation after that was body double. Whatever reason be for that to happen, it was bad job by the production house and the director. They should know to handle such situations otherwise why be in this business!! Anyway, I am really happy that I left this show. However, tags ftom friends in thr forum keeps me somewhat involved!!

Neil is a veteran actor, I don't think he would have any problem in shooting Intimate scenes.actually to think of it , the scenes on TV are not that intimate anyways.they involve a hug, a cheek or forehead kiss,close eyelocks at max.

The direction and editing make the scene touch the audience more than the actors proximity.this is clearly a lack of dedication and Interest from the makers.i feel sairat as a couple had the ability to make people crazy like some itv couples that are remembered till date.arshi for example.but their chemistry is very underutilized.

But it seems like the makers are very laid back.they are getting good trps,they even topped the chart a few times.so now they know they have a loyal set of viewers.they are not making an effort and it is clearly showing.

I read all the comments and I needn't to say anything further today after seeing the caps!

It's crystal clear, the Neil's visibly keeping a safe distance from Ayesha in EVERY scene. Forget romantic there's actors position of a couple. Just see other couples of the show or any other & see SaiRat's. This is the first time I'm witnessing this on TV in my life... Just compare with the kind of scenes other couples get... All SaiRat get is social distance even while wiping tears, emotional scenes while comforting Sai, dance, feeding, taking selfies, blowing air, dressing wound, hugs, holding hand/shoulder/waist etc. anything. Even KD whose audience was too sankskari had 100 times bolder intimacy than of SaiRat's... Intimacy isn't just about physical in romantic scenes. You'll easily spot that within a couple which is visibly missing. Even from today's episode compared to KD just watch the clip when the ML comes & picks the FL up and before & after that their faces were so close & how tight his grip and hold was. He was tensed and was looking at her wound everywhere. In Ghum it was so thanda. Neil's hand was on half air & was barely touching Ayesha's shoulder, forehead, face... And the visible safe distance in the dressing wound scene. Heck even his dress doesn't touch hers. And it's after they're in love with eachother whereas couples not in love stage 100x more intimate scenes. It's evident happening cuz of real life equation specially when Pakhi is present in the scene.

Even if it's happening & Neil's doing purposely (which is true anyway) in both scenes of Virat's with Sai and Pakhi how come the director approving such scenes & saying yes to cuts. Like the final decision, editing, retakes, telling the ML and making him act professionally with FL & take proper shots & be stern with him to maintain proximity on-screen with FL or everyone related to the show on sets write, script & shoot SaiRat's scenes to accommodate Aish's insecurity, tantrums, unprofessionalism, problematic self, demands and Neil's discomfort is taken into consideration... Virat's care & love is conveyed through face only but doesn't translate into actions at all... Looks like everything on set happens as per whims & fancies of theirs...

Even in random family scenes Virat stands closer to Pakhi & his proximity tilts towards Pakhi and hand/shoulder is about to touch Pakhi's even when Sai is also present in the frame beside Virat...

It's impossible to ignore something this obvious at this point by now... Even the first dream hug sequence of SaiRat's just before their marriage was by far the superior hug of theirs so far although it didn't happen in reality. But it was wellshot & the closeness was 100 times better although none of the two were in love with e/o back then and now look at their proximity at this stage of their relationship, equation...

They're doing all these just to keep the real life pair happy & satisfied and please them cause they couldn't become the endgame on-screen as characters...