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Pakhi a girl who was introduced as a modern ,strong and independent girl.she used to love yoga,hanging out alone, photography.she did not want an arrange marriage.so she was waiting to fall in love whenever it will happen.

She met a virat in a yoga camp.they both felt attracted towards eachother and started to fall in love with eachother.i mean only fall in love but not in love.as there is journey from fall in love to be in love.

But unfortunately Pakhi misunderstood virat when he failed to recognise her.With family pressure and in emotional impulse state she decided to move on.As according to her ,the man she loved only failed her.so her dream to do love before marriage ended for her.so she decided go with the flow.

I feel she would have married samrat and may be live a good life by looking at kind of person samrat is.

But destiny played its role with pakhi.And she found virat to be samrat brother only.And when her misunderstanding got clear.she felt now again she can live with her love as she dreamt all her life.she told the same to virat that his decision to ask her to marry samrat will destroy their life.But when virat ask him if he meant anything for her then she has to marry samrat.And virat made that promise to her that he will always love her only no matter whay.then she agreed not coz of virat but she felt her dream to be the love of life of her first love will be fulfilled.

She married samrat so that her dream of love remain true in her life as her love will only lover her.she knew they will never be together.but she was satisfied with her dream being fulfilled in different way.

But things turn a different take with coming sai in picture.Now she is not against sai.she is not scared of Sai and virat love.but she is scared that she gambled her life for being love by virat whole life will be over.she is doing everything in her power that is to humiliate sai,making virat regret marry , constantly taunting her and what not.

Now I want to see her journey.i want to see how she will accept the reality.how long she will run away fr the very truth of Sai virat growing love.

And after moving on from this,how her life course will change.and ofcourse by coming samrat back.what will be their dynamics.

Till now I has seen heroine forging heroes for betrayal and trying to change them for better.i want to see will samrat will be able to do so.and if not I will be happy with them partying ways on a happy note.

Sorry for the long post.i feel this show is a journey of 3 central character.virat,Pakhi,sai.its their journey.And among these three,I know sai virat are good character with their obvious flaw.And they will be together.But it's pakhis journey whom I m interested.Becoz till now she has made her life a big mess.she is at her lowest.now I want to see what is store for character Pakhi.

I just hope for a change cvs learn to do justice with grey characters.


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jrf2021

Pakhi a girl who was introduced as a modern ,strong and independent girl.she used to love yoga,hanging out alone, photography.she did not want an arrange marriage.so she was waiting to fall in love whenever it will happen.

She met a virat in a yoga camp.they both felt attracted towards eachother and started to fall in love with eachother.i mean only fall in love but not in love.as there is journey from fall in love to be in love.

But unfortunately Pakhi misunderstood virat when he failed to recognise her.With family pressure and in emotional impulse state she decided to move on.As according to her ,the man she loved only failed her.so her dream to do love before marriage ended for her.so she decided go with the flow.

I feel she would have married samrat and may be live a good life by looking at kind of person samrat is.

But destiny played its role with pakhi.And she found virat to be samrat brother only.And when her misunderstanding got clear.she felt now again she can live with her love as she dreamt all her life.she told the same to virat that his decision to ask her to marry samrat will destroy their life.But when virat ask him if he meant anything for her then she has to marry samrat.And virat made that promise to her that he will always love her only no matter whay.then she agreed not coz of virat but she felt her dream to be the love of life of her first love will be fulfilled.

She married samrat so that her dream of love remain true in her life as her love will only lover her.she knew they will never be together.but she was satisfied with her dream being fulfilled in different way.

But things turn a different take with coming sai in picture.Now she is not against sai.she is not scared of Sai and virat love.but she is scared that she gambled her life for being love by virat whole life will be over.she is doing everything in her power that is to humiliate sai,making virat regret marry , constantly taunting her and what not.

Now I want to see her journey.i want to see how she will accept the reality.how long she will run away fr the very truth of Sai virat growing love.

And after moving on from this,how her life course will change.and ofcourse by coming samrat back.what will be their dynamics.

Till now I has seen heroine forging heroes for betrayal and trying to change them for better.i want to see will samrat will be able to do so.and if not I will be happy with them partying ways on a happy note.

Sorry for the long post.i feel this show is a journey of 3 central character.virat,Pakhi,sai.its their journey.And among these three,I know sai virat are good character with their obvious flaw.And they will be together.But it's pakhis journey whom I m interested.Becoz till now she has made her life a big mess.she is at her lowest.now I want to see what is store for character Pakhi.

I just hope for a change cvs learn to do justice with grey characters.



Nice..

I agree , to some of your points.

The things I disagree with :

No one forced her, she was given choices and she took wrong descisions; understandable but journey happens when you accept you are at fault and work towards redemption, no such thing happening on that point or any at future as its a remake.

It a story where her character goes from possesed to delusional state and than more, it never stops until at the end where one day after leap she has turned over a new leaf..so no journey..😔


Now here they have started from delusional when her marriage is happening, now she is going through the phase of more delusional with lust all over her mind..In originals, she was admitted for treatment during her more delusional phase of lust, but here we see with lust hanging out with her toungue she is entertained as a normal entity in CN called susheelta and what not!!God knows what will happen next??


As of makers,I don't find them at fault as they are giving more than ample screen space to actress with creativity to show her POV, to the point where we are begging for some screenspace for ML and FL of the show.; first time in history of ITV, I believe and getting abused and blocked by them.

But ,the poor acting does not allow us as viewers to get attached to the character..

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Nice..

I agree , to some of your points.

The things I disagree with :

No one forced her, she was given choices and she took wrong descisions; understandable but journey happens when you accept you are at fault and work towards redemption, no such thing happening on that point or any at future as its a remake.

It a story where her character goes from possesed to delusional state and than more, it never stops until at the end where one day after leap she has turned over a new leaf..so no journey..😔


Now here they have started from delusional when her marriage is happening, now she is going through the phase of more delusional with lust all over her mind..In originals, she was admitted for treatment during her more delusional phase of lust, but here we see with lust hanging out with her toungue she is entertained as a normal entity in CN called susheelta and what not!!God knows what will happen next??


As of makers,I don't find them at fault as they are giving more than ample screen space to actress with creativity to show her POV, to the point where we are begging for some screenspace for ML and FL of the show.; first time in history of ITV, I believe and getting abused and blocked by them.

But ,the poor acting does not allow us as viewers to get attached to the character..

I just saw the episode when Virat clearly tells her that he does not like her. The reaction she had , the acting was more funny than the actual emotion she wanted to portray. It’s just coming across differently


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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sairat


Nice..

I agree , to some of your points.

The things I disagree with :

No one forced her, she was given choices and she took wrong descisions; understandable but journey happens when you accept you are at fault and work towards redemption, no such thing happening on that point or any at future as its a remake.

It a story where her character goes from possesed to delusional state and than more, it never stops until at the end where one day after leap she has turned over a new leaf..so no journey..😔


Now here they have started from delusional when her marriage is happening, now she is going through the phase of more delusional with lust all over her mind..In originals, she was admitted for treatment during her more delusional phase of lust, but here we see with lust hanging out with her toungue she is entertained as a normal entity in CN called susheelta and what not!!God knows what will happen next??


As of makers,I don't find them at fault as they are giving more than ample screen space to actress with creativity to show her POV, to the point where we are begging for some screenspace for ML and FL of the show.; first time in history of ITV, I believe and getting abused and blocked by them.

But ,the poor acting does not allow us as viewers to get attached to the character..

Well I don't know this is a remake.i just come across this show on hotstar while watching star wars.so just out of curiosity watched it.

But if it's true what u r saying that there won't be any journey for Pakhi and no hope too.then I guess I should just try to avoid it.

I agree that no-one forced her to marry .But as I mentioned in my post she did that for her love about which dreamt for years. Now she is in the most despicable situation out of the three main leads.

When I watched this show.i found sai virat love story is very much long old itv formula type.with them misunderstanding and love.separation and reunion and what not.

It's Pakhi as a character which intrigued me the most.

I don't think she is lusting after virat if u meant by physical.But I feel she just wants to be the most important person of her life.

Ofcourse she is at her lowest,I m definitely not justifying her actions.As I know it's wrong.But I can see why she is doing this.

I m really hoping to see her journey may be with samrat or alone.I m waiting for her delusion to break and she rises as phoenix from her ashes.

We it's just my desire.but let' see what cvs will show us.

And yes u r right Pakhi need to work on her acting.

Lastly three of them are the main central character.three of them are the leads of this show.And anti hero or anti heroine are equally or I feel more important than hero or heroine.

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I have a question???

Why each and every time a thread is opened to defend Pakhi as a character or the actress but the thread maker is always a NEWBIE a member who never participated in the forum and just vanished after that thread....

Edited to say what I noticed.

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Waise we of all people should be able to relate to Pakhi.


Show makers promised us a love story and we believed it and started watching the show.


Slowly we realized romance nahi and humare saath dhokha hua hain.


But we continue to hold on to the vaada of love story and went with the flow, happy with few SAIRAT pani puri scenes.


Then we started comparing it the future tracks in KD and NM like how Pakhi compares herself with Sai, we can see its going exactly the KD way, but we in our delusions hoping for a SAIRAT scene and keep coming to watch show, signing up for self torture.


Baar baar when a new track starts, we are as hopeful of SAIRAT scene as much as how hopeful Pakhi is of spewing venom. But jis tarah Pakhi gets insulted and cries after every track, we also do that after every episode, every week.


Makers by blocking people who ask logical questions is just like Virat telling her I dont have any feelings for you.


But did we understand? No, aren't we all waiting for next week, still with a small hope of an awesome make-up scene?


So we are all Pakhis.

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Originally posted by: sukri

Waise we of all people should be able to relate to Pakhi.


Show makers promised us a love story and we believed it and started watching the show.


Slowly we realized romance nahi and humare saath dhokha hua hain.


But we continue to hold on to the vaada of love story and went with the flow, happy with few SAIRAT pani puri scenes.


Then we started comparing it the future tracks in KD and NM like how Pakhi compares herself with Sai, we can see its going exactly the KD way, but we in our delusions hoping for a SAIRAT scene and keep coming to watch show, signing up for self torture.


Baar baar when a new track starts, we are as hopeful of SAIRAT scene as much as how hopeful Pakhi is of spewing venom. But jis tarah Pakhi gets insulted and cries after every track, we also do that after every episode, every week.


Makers by blocking people who ask logical questions is just like Virat telling her I dont have any feelings for you.


But did we understand? No, aren't we all waiting for next week, still with a small hope of an awesome make-up scene?


So we are all Pakhis.


@bold 😂😂😂

I can now feel how Pakhi feels insulted 😂😂

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Jrf2021

Pakhi a girl who was introduced as a modern ,strong and independent girl.she used to love yoga,hanging out alone, photography.she did not want an arrange marriage.so she was waiting to fall in love whenever it will happen.

She met a virat in a yoga camp.they both felt attracted towards eachother and started to fall in love with eachother.i mean only fall in love but not in love.as there is journey from fall in love to be in love.

But unfortunately Pakhi misunderstood virat when he failed to recognise her.

Root cause for all the problems in all of their life, her own life and Virat's too. She told Virat he has spoilt 3 lives, she spoilt her own life. Can't be told for Virat because she was clearly an attraction and the samajhdhaar that he is, failed to understand that it wasn't love.

Why didn't she think he could have had reasons to have not saved her number, quite possible to get disappointed and hurt but she couldn't even wait for him to know the actual truth. Not like her marriage was fixed months and year after this incident.


With family pressure and in emotional impulse state she decided to move on.

I am wondering what if Samrat wasn't his brother at all and she gets to meet Virat somewhere and confronts him and gets to know the truth, what would she have done? Who would have felt deceived Virat or her? She would have blamed the fate and not herself even then looking at her character.


As according to her ,the man she loved only failed her.so her dream to do love before marriage ended for her.so she decided go with the flow.

I feel she would have married samrat and may be live a good life by looking at kind of person samrat is.

But destiny played its role with pakhi.And she found virat to be samrat brother only.And when her misunderstanding got clear.she felt now again she can live with her love as she dreamt all her life.she told the same to virat that his decision to ask her to marry samrat will destroy their life.But when virat ask him if he meant anything for her then she has to marry samrat.

In the position Virat was in, what can be expected out of him? To reveal to the family who she was. He didn't meet her when they went to see her as a prospective bride, it was during the haldi function. It is very difficult to say what anyone can and would do at that point.

He requested not to reveal anything and that he cannot accept her. He requested them to think about going ahead with the marriage and left the decision to them saying hope to see you all in Sangeet.


Who came to Sangeet? Her family's reputation was also at stake. She knew Virat will not accept her after this and even if she refuses to marry Samrat, Virat is not going to marry her. This is where fate played a game. Even if he wanted, he wouldn't have been able to accept her. If Samrat had come to know this was the case, the only way they could have got together was Samrat uniting them.


He got jealous when they danced, but she kept pushing him. She tried to pursue him, making him see what he was missing and that he is not going to be happy letting her marry his brother.

It was the pressure, the helplessness, unable to adress her needs and answer her questions of why he felt jealous, in an attempt to get rid of her from the room before anyone saw them and got an idea of what was happening, he did something stupid. Giving her a promise.

Ofcourse it is not justified, but when she came to Sangeet even after he had told he cant accept her, why was she trying to pursue him? May be it was natural for her to. That is where we can feel sorry for her. She was fighting for her love which she can never win because of the nature of Virat. He cannot disregard his love for his family for a love that he thought he had which was developed in 2 days. He knew her for 2 days but Samrat? Whom does he owe? Their love story did not even begin in first place.


And virat made that promise to her that he will always love her only no matter whay.then she agreed not coz of virat but she felt her dream to be the love of life of her first love will be fulfilled.

Really? That's the most stupid thing she can do. Also her Dad asked her to reconsider, she felt Virat will be in her eye sight if she enters that house. Did she even realise that she was getting married to someone else to have Virat in front of her eyes? She wasn't living with them as a PG.


Coming to the promise, if she really loved him, she would have stopped him from making such a promise. Shouldn't she wish for his happiness whether or not she got into a marriage which was not out of love? Doesn't love mean giving?


Why should she expect that she will have to remain in his heart forever and that too by a promise. I would actually say that if it was meant to be, it will happen irrespective of what she wants or the promise that he gave. If he really loved her, he would do it on his own and not due to obligations or a promise.


She married samrat so that her dream of love remain true in her life as her love will only lover her.she knew they will never be together.but she was satisfied with her dream being fulfilled in different way.

What kind of toxic and selfish and self centred dream is this? Virat was at more loss than her if you see. She was getting married right in front of his eyes to his own brother. He couldn't even express how bad he was feeling.


But things turn a different take with coming sai in picture.Now she is not against sai.she is not scared of Sai and virat love.

Sorry to say, you have misunderstood. She is against Sai, loathes her. She is scared of their bond. She is not only feeling jealous but scared to death what if they both become one. It is visible to her as how Virat seem to like Sai, is proud of her, cares for her, protective about her, attached to her, also how he is getting attracted towards her and impressed by her.

If only she was not acting vile, not taunting Sai or humiliating her, joining hands with Kaku to show Sai her place, playing a part in belittling her, we could have felt the pain she was going through when Virat and Sai are getting close. The character could have got sympathy if she showed some empathy to 18 year old girl who just lost her world, her father.


but she is scared that she gambled her life for being love by virat whole life will be over.

That is not the reason. She never expected this change in Virat. She wants to be the only person Virat should like or love. She wants all the attention. She wants all that Sai is getting for herself. She doesn't want him to give the place he once planned to give her to anyone else. Her jealousy can be understood to some extent but no one can feel sorry for her having such expectations. Doesn’t he deserve anything in his life?

Shivani bua once asked, doesn't Virat deserve happiness when Kaku questioned him if he married Sai only out of responsibility. They were confused as how he can be so attached to her and support her if he has no feelings for her. How does he act like an actual husband when the marriage he had claimed was to fulfil his responsibility. His connection and affection for Sai started long way back which he himself isn't aware of. He never felt that for Pakhi to tell the truth. It was an unknown war between his head who thinks he loves Pakhi with his heart who seem to be connected to Sai.


She is doing everything in her power that is to humiliate sai,making virat regret marry , constantly taunting her and what not.

Now I want to see her journey.i want to see how she will accept the reality.how long she will run away fr the very truth of Sai virat growing love.

Yeah, will be good to see that, but I don't see that happening in the near future.

And after moving on from this,how her life course will change.and ofcourse by coming samrat back.what will be their dynamics.

If only Samrat didn't know of her past, could have been helpful. It is going to be even more difficult.


Till now I has seen heroine forging heroes for betrayal and trying to change them for better.i want to see will samrat will be able to do so.and if not I will be happy with them partying ways on a happy note.

Sorry for the long post.i feel this show is a journey of 3 central character.virat,Pakhi,sai.its their journey.And among these three,I know sai virat are good character with their obvious flaw.And they will be together.But it's pakhis journey whom I m interested.Becoz till now she has made her life a big mess.she is at her lowest.now I want to see what is store for character Pakhi.

I just hope for a change cvs learn to do justice with grey characters.


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She is acting like a child who doesn't want their single parent to get married again out of insecurity. We can atleast understand the cihild's anxiety or insecurity.

Or worse, she is considering Virat like her doll which she doesn't want to share with anyone else, reality is that he is not even hers in first place. She told Sai that Sai insulted Virat by calling him a toy, the truth is that she is considering him to be her favourite doll that she knows she can't own, so no one else should also own it. Some venomous people will destroy the doll so that no one gets hold of it, here she is hell bent on destroying Sai because he is his wife and because she can see feelings for Sai in Virat, so why not destroy the prospective owner.


She needs to have a reality check to come out this state. She doesn't even want to hear when her Dad said that it is natural for Sai to join her husband. Pity that none in the house could tell that.

We can sympathise with her or her pain only if she stops her atrocities on Sai and stops to guilt trip Virat.

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Originally posted by: Jrf2021

Pakhi a girl who was introduced as a modern ,strong and independent girl.she used to love yoga,hanging out alone, photography.she did not want an arrange marriage.so she was waiting to fall in love whenever it will happen.

She met a virat in a yoga camp.they both felt attracted towards eachother and started to fall in love with eachother.i mean only fall in love but not in love.as there is journey from fall in love to be in love.

But unfortunately Pakhi misunderstood virat when he failed to recognise her.With family pressure and in emotional impulse state she decided to move on.As according to her ,the man she loved only failed her.so her dream to do love before marriage ended for her.so she decided go with the flow.

I feel she would have married samrat and may be live a good life by looking at kind of person samrat is.

But destiny played its role with pakhi.And she found virat to be samrat brother only.And when her misunderstanding got clear.she felt now again she can live with her love as she dreamt all her life.she told the same to virat that his decision to ask her to marry samrat will destroy their life.But when virat ask him if he meant anything for her then she has to marry samrat.And virat made that promise to her that he will always love her only no matter whay.then she agreed not coz of virat but she felt her dream to be the love of life of her first love will be fulfilled.

She married samrat so that her dream of love remain true in her life as her love will only lover her.she knew they will never be together.but she was satisfied with her dream being fulfilled in different way.

But things turn a different take with coming sai in picture.Now she is not against sai.she is not scared of Sai and virat love.but she is scared that she gambled her life for being love by virat whole life will be over.she is doing everything in her power that is to humiliate sai,making virat regret marry , constantly taunting her and what not.

Now I want to see her journey.i want to see how she will accept the reality.how long she will run away fr the very truth of Sai virat growing love.

And after moving on from this,how her life course will change.and ofcourse by coming samrat back.what will be their dynamics.

Till now I has seen heroine forging heroes for betrayal and trying to change them for better.i want to see will samrat will be able to do so.and if not I will be happy with them partying ways on a happy note.

Sorry for the long post.i feel this show is a journey of 3 central character.virat,Pakhi,sai.its their journey.And among these three,I know sai virat are good character with their obvious flaw.And they will be together.But it's pakhis journey whom I m interested.Becoz till now she has made her life a big mess.she is at her lowest.now I want to see what is store for character Pakhi.

I just hope for a change cvs learn to do justice with grey characters.


Loved your analysis of Pakhi. During the initial episodes I truly felt bad for her and sympathised with her too. And, even her Father asked her to back off she got married I was intrigued. I felt how can someone sail on two boats. If Samrat wouldn't have been Virat's cousin would have gone with the marriage? I don't think so. She got married only to stay close to her lover. Can you call this ethical or even accepted? Anyway, now Virat is married and slowly he rialised that his soul mate is not Pakhi but Sai. And, even though he had promised Pakhi he will not let anyone conquer his heart he let Sai do what he never wanted to do. Pakhi has gone berserk since now she has started feeling Virat is slipping through her hand and is trying every trick in the book to separate Virat from Sai. Hope, in the coming track after Samrat returns she moves on just like Virat.

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She don't have a a journey here siwaye Chavan nivas ke logo ko chai pilana Viratbaage pichhe thali leke ghumna aur Sai ko taane marna

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