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Posted: 15 years ago
nice work doodle hope the th vachan is completed fully & they want rush for other vachans
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Posted: 15 years ago
For those who are online:-

"The Moment - Maan's Parineeta Geet" - Part VIII – Acknowledging Amity

Yelloooo all my Friends, Devils, CVs, Star and Nissar. Hola. It's "Hi" in Spanish. How you doin'???

Before I start on the episode would like to say "Thank You" to the PH, Star for putting the "Disclaimer" and clearing your stand and answering to all the raise eyebrows who are demanding certain situations in the Series that is against the humanity and society.

I would also like to say "Thank You" to CVs, PH, Star for carrying out our "Parineeta Metaphor" theory so well. I love the fact that you all understood the reason, emotions and symbolism that are attached with this Theory. I literally thank you from the bottom of my heart.

Am I in a mood to criticize today??? Naaah. But there are certain issues I would like to talk also in my analysis. Hmmm, so I have seen the New Promo. I see my gifts are not in the trash. Am I happy??? Well time will tell after I see the execution. Again be very careful. The truth is yet to be open soon and I just don't want any clich route here like Geet being the self -sacrificing lady here. She has to fight for the baby after knowing the truth and that is her first priority here but not by walking out of her happiness. It's just not acceptable. She and Maan should remember by this time they will be one soul and just cannot make the other person suffer because of your own boundations. This is not 18th century we are talking about but 21st century. Just remember this Star and CVs. No, Again "A Big NO". If at all this happens, then the faith and the logic and the expectations of something new from this Series will be completely damaged. No Goof Ups. Otherwise you all will be "Virtually DEAD".

Let us come to the episode. Well starting was expected as usual. We knew that it would happen that way. Ok, here I need to talk to the Costume Designer. Where is the Costume Designer??? What you think since I stay abroad I don't know how women dress professionally in India??? What was she wearing??? She is even pathetic that Lindsay Lohan. At least Ms. Lohan wears sensible clothes when she attends her hearing here and what was that lady Ms. Rathod were wearing??? Was she about to go to the beach or shopping?? I thought she came to HP for a Court Hearing. And that too in a place like HP. I was busy writing about "Honor Killing" yesterday so forgot to mention this. Just use some intelligence and common sense please. God has given you them to utilize and not to store it in the warehouse. Since she belongs to an affluent family that doea not give her the BOD to wear any crap she wants to. If not to herself she should at least give respect to the place where she is visiting. That is why our forefathers' have been saying since ages that "Behave like Romans in Rome".

Today I'll do joint discussion on the Title and the Parineeta Metaphor:-

"The Moment - Maan's Parineeta Geet" - Acknowledging Amity

Hmmm. Friendship??? At this stage??? I thought they already have an unspoken friendship within each other??? This Unspoken Understanding / Unspoken Friendship was already existed in their relationship. Or, it has some hidden meaning Mr. Series Director??? I sense something here. Hmm. Well will reply in some other day.

I need to state one saying here though. Very appropriate here:-

"All love that has not friendship for its base is like a mansion built upon the sand." - Ella Wheeler Wilcox

Let us recollect some Vachans here:-

The 4th Vachan:- The couple vow to share all their joys and sorrows and take care of their families.

5th Vachan:- In the Fifth Vachan , the couple pray to almighty to bless his kindness for all the living things of this universe. They pray for the happiness and well being of each others relatives and friends. Fifth Vachan denotes the bride's and bridegroom's concern with each other's family members and relatives. It also signifies their moral responsibilities towards the charities and universe welfare. Another importance of fifth vachan is that they pray for a noble breed.

6th Vachan:- By performing Sixth Vachan couple implore for a long and happy life. They pray to almighty to extend his blessings for a long lived togetherness. They wish to enjoy endless plentiful seasons with each other. Sixth Vachan is completely related to the long, joyous life and togetherness.

7th Vachan:- Seventh Vachan is the last phera which adds completion to the ritual of seven pheras. In seventh Phera , Bride & Bridegroom plead for a joy full life. The couple begs the god for a long lasting bond enriched with good understanding, loyalty and companionship. They pledge to bear the relationship with love and honesty. The couple invokes and also prays for universal peace as well as social welfare.

Well if you ask me I felt the entire episode projected so many symbolisms in our Parineeta Metaphor theory. When Maan wanted to make Geet happy by bringing her sis and bro, he actually completed a part of the 5th Vachan. But the major milestone will be achieved when the truth of the baby will be shared by the love birds and then the support they will shower upon each other. The vow they will make to raise the baby together and fulfill all the necessary requirements associated with the baby. After this only the 5th vachan will be complete. Just remember here the base of any relationship should be on the ground of truth and truth only. That is very important for a strong and understanding relationship. Then only the respect for each other grows. So, I want Maan should know why Geet was denying her feeling for him as then only he will respect her more and more.

The scene was very nice where Geet met her sis and bro. the one message I see been given by the CVs that Geet now will move on as her parents have made a way to move on in life. That was a very nice message not only to Geet but to all of us. Yeah you should not hold on to the past. Like I always said that:-

"When you don't get something you want then always remember there's something better is in store for you in future".

Now here I would mention one symbolism that tanu had predicted which goes with our Parineeta Metaphor theory. But, though her symbolism is correct I still feel it needs some clarification. Anyhow I will state her interpretation. Well according to her Maan and Geet completed the "Pag Phere " Rasam today.

The Pag Phera Rasam... wherein a girl after marriage is brought to her Dad's home by her brother..... and brought back to her sasural by the hubby. So, if we put the two scenes together today we can losely say we had a Pag Phere ka Rasam.

First Tito comes to the place where Maan and Geet are......so he technically comes to meet his sister in her husband's company........ Second ....after that moment.. Maan n Geet returns together for Delhi but on the way they get stuck by in the rain and goes to the tabela, a separate place. Hence, according to her the Pag Phera Rasam happens.

The only support that I can give is that the Griha Pravesh was already done so that justifies this. But on the contrary, I will say that the Sindoor or the Mangalsutra with the Taveez moment is yet to be done. Hence, the Pag Phera Rasam needs to be clarified. That only CVs, PH, Star can clarify which they never speak up. Pathetic. I hate virtual talking. If you don't read their mind properly then you make a complete fool of yourself.

Now comes the moment of acknowledging amity.

I won't say anything about the friendship part 'coz I know the purpose for it was different. Not all can understand. But only will say that the friendship was meant to show the emotional bonding that they have developed over the period of time and to make Geet comfortable with Maan around. Loved though when Maan admitted that it is Geet who always have a upper hand in taking decision between them. You know women are pretty good in taking decisions and they indeed are the best diplomats around. Well must say that the execution of the car scene was pathetic.

And I want to tell to the Mr. Barry Dhillon that I was extremely disappointed with you. What was that word??? "Bechari???" After all a man feels for the girl what he calls her??? Bechari??? Are you out of your mind??? I don't even think you are sane. Pl be careful in future while using certain words. Also want to talk to the dubbing team. Last couple episodes I am seeing the dubbing was pathetic especially for Maan. I want to say Gumeet again that pl stay in your character and don't let Gurmeet affect you over Maan. The way Maan smiles and talks and behaves is completely different from Gurmeet's. Today I didn't feel like Maan was smiling but felt like it was Gurmeet. Here you need to understand that since you need to mellow down a bit towards Geet and also towards her acquaintances you need to think how a personality like Maan would mellow down in real life and not Gurmeet. There are numerous fans of Maan here so don't dishearten them. They love to see you as Maan only.

I need elaborate here more on Maan's character sketch. I know Maan is head over heels in love but how come that changes the way he speaks or behaves. I don't think so. When a person falls in love his /her attitude, personality, work culture, llifestyle, way of addressing others and behavior never changes. Yeah he /she might change the way of talking and behaving with the other half they did earlier. But the entire attitude never changes. The basic characteristics remain the same. Don't make like other protagonists in other series where the main lead completely becomes an opposite character when he falls in love. Love changes you but not your character. It changes the way of your thinking but not your behavior so drastically.

Now here comes the "Tabela Scene". I can sense Jyo jumping with joy. We are slowly slowly heading towards the unraveling of the truth here. Well that was good and little filler and the foundation to tomorrow's talwar scene. Now hopefully Maan will come to know that Brij is in jail because of Geet and I can sense how proud he will be with her. I know fellow devils are sad as they can't see Brij here but don't worry he will be back as soon as he can give dates for the shoot. He and his Oyyeeee are in public demand after all. So, cheer up. Also I was not much impressed with the Tabela scene as felt both Drashti and Maan was missing something. The scene was in a rush donno why. Is it because I heard that Gurmeet is planning for a vacation and you all need to have bank episodes. Don't do that. You need to focus on making wonderful episodes. If you continue on giving the viewers filler episodes then one day you won't find any viewer at all. Just be careful. Yes I am crude here as need to be.

Tomorrow there is fight scene and don't do any stupidity. Btw, just wanted to remind you CVs and Star that I hope you have sketched the completion of the 5th and 6th Vachan on how to carry out. Make it a classic and again I am saying DO NOT GOOF UP. Otherwise you all will be "Virtually DEAD".

Though I felt the payal, earring and dupatta on the floor was way too filmy but Geet from IF said that it might have some symbolism of Maan always protecting her from the evil.

It was an auspicious moment for the two love birds. They vow their Vachans in the Holy Matrimony of Souls.

Overall a average episode with a nice twist. Hmmm. I liked it.

Over to you all to join the discussion. Feel free to shoot me:-
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Posted: 15 years ago
@Doodle:Perfect analysis as usual👍🏼..we agreed more or less on everything as usual😆..but I m in slight disagreement with Maan's change in attitude😳...I don't really think Maan as a character has changed today..only his smile in the car was OTT which I hv highlighted in my analysis as well but his attitude is still the same and we can see that when he was dealing with Rasika in the same episode...He was the same MSK that we know😳;Only in front of Geet he was putting extra effort today and acting sweet but its just because he wanted to see her smile and so that extra effort was shown from his side😳;We saw him losing his cool when the car breaks down which proves he has not lost his marbles yet😆 but then he cools him down to make sure Geet is fine😳...So when u r trying to please your lady-love and see her smile,then a bit of change in attitude is fine as long as its temporary and has a specific purpose😳
Edited by jyoti06 - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago

me is off now🥱 its 5😆 good-night people....PEACE!

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Originally posted by: jyoti06

@Doodle:Perfect analysis as usual👍🏼..we agreed more or less on everything as usual😆..but I m in slight disagreement with Maan's change in attitude😳...I don't really think Maan as a character has changed today..only his smile in the car was OTT which I hv highlighted in my analysis as well but his attitude is still the same and we can see that when he was dealing with Rasika in the same episode...He was the same MSK that we know😳;Only in front of Geet he was putting extra effort today and acting sweet but its just because he wanted tosee her smile and so that extra effort was shown from his side😳;We saw him losing his cool when the car breaks down which proves he has not lost his marbles yet😆but then he cools him down to make sure Geet is fine😳...So when u r trying to please your lady-love and see her smile,then a bit of change in attitude is fine as long as its temporary and has a specific purpose😳



It was a warning Jyooo...need to keep them on their toes...
Edited by doodleberry - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
@Jyo and Doodle, Beautiful analysis👏👏👏

Jyo, I can now try relate to the FRANDSHIP scene - ..so he takes the friendship route deliberately to get the facts out of his lady-love's mind...🤣🤣🤣🤣

Doodle,
Chica Rasika needs a wardrobe overhaul 🤣🤣 Even Lindsey Lohan would be ashamed to wear those kinda clothes for a court hearing.
LOVE ur words - Geet now will move on as her parents have made a way to move on in life .

I too felt that editing and dubbing was utter crap today 😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
anybody is here??????

ya sab apne aap main busy hain😔
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@Jo & D: I don't think MSK has changed either... he's consciously engaged in behavior modification to make Geet comfortable. He instant reaction when the car won't start.. His sarcasm about the tabela...his arrogance about his camping experience... his quick frustration when Geet is playing hide and seek... Its all classique MSK. The Ramayana symbolism irritated me but, guess it will go over well with the masses. Presumably he's been checking out kuri's legs 🤣 maybe during their first night together in the outhouse where he was on his knees... Is a pile gifting coming in the future?

Jo - i really wanna know ur Dupatta take...btw Mayank is getting naughty shotty on MJHT

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Posted: 15 years ago
@jyo & DB nice analysis...yup editing these days not good..even dubbing...i find geet same even changes in her are still like geet...but changes in maan are soo not like maan..since last 2 days i see gurmeet instead of maan in some scenes 😕 some of facial expression where like gurmeet not maan i m not talking abt smile(that was 100% gurmeet)...i dont want maan to b next mr bajaj..who had changed head to toe for prerana 🤢 it is maan character which makes us maan maniac..i dont want it to change..i dont want his attitude to go..
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Ok posted just now in pg - 2, my take!! Here it goes!!

Trying to recover from the phaaassst episode, will try to make some sense before penning down anything!! Pheww!!!

Ok I will try to keep it short today!! The episode to me looked like a storm just blew by with so many things happening all at once. By the time I tried to register the episode got over!! Yeah call me slow! 😃 I really wanted to ask the CV's why this rush, why the sudden urge to hurry up the story, I am having problems with the pace nowadays, the pace of story telling. So kindly please take a deep breath & slow down. HP over in 4 days!!
Ok with that over I will get to the episode. Geet's juvenile methods finally worked & Rasika came down from her high horse & finally assented to let go of the case! Well good for all of us! But what was it all about? She kept on giving threats of putting MSK behind bars & for what, because he cancelled a deal?? Doesn't deal fall through day in & day out? Do all the people land up in prison?
Anyway the following scene I liked because I saw Maan acting just like himself. I remembered Dadi's explanation to NT, the difference between 2 brothers. Where Dev is an escapist from any difficult situation Maan on the other hand face them boldfacedly & accept the challenges as they come. He did just that today, went straight ahead to meet the angry mob & cooled them down! Good character consistency there! I know the CV's will be raising their eyes in boredom when they will read about character consistency from me but what to do, its extremely important to me in any work of fiction.
So Maan already is performing all the duties of a doting husband! Another vow here signified, he wanted to make Geet happy & thus brought a part of her happiness to her because she can't go to achieve her share of glory!
The sibling scene was very touching, at least the younger generation feels what the older generation very conveniently has forsaken. I am surprised how come parents have simply given up on their kids so much so that they don't even think about her!! How can that be?? But loved the bonding the young generation shares & Maan's happy look to see Geet so glad & emotional. What I liked here was how he understood what Geet was trying to ask when she looked up at him & he gently said no one else is here. Their eyes r conversing now! 😍
Next segment, well, it will be difficult to digest & understand that why now she is offering & asking for his friendship when all of us feel this stage is long past over! To justify I will here think from Geet's point of view because looking at Maan he is definitely long past that stage! The way he paused & looked at her with that smirk said a lot! 😆 Must be wondering he got a nice naive slow girl who will take centuries to reach to his 'baba Adam ka zamane ka soch aur kartoot'! 😆 Ok jokes apart, from Geet's side I know where she was coming from. She is after all a village girl & her thinking will be related to basic feelings & emotions. She handled Rasika in her own inane way showing she is not like a city bred girl like Pari who had an unique way to find out about their love for each other. And in this instance I will say CV's u stuck to basic character consistency. She was grateful to Maan for all he did with Rajji & Tito & what more can she offer to him other than her friendship, a part of her!! So from this angle I think she was ok. She felt cribbing with him all the time makes her restless & so its high time she makes peace with him & thus this offering of an olive branch!
2ndly also I think the CV's r telling us the importance of true friendship here in any relationship. Am I right Nissar?? Even between the audience & the creatives a friendship can exist where one shows something & the audience is supposed to understand & pick it up intelligently! They r trying to convey friendship is something very strong & doesn't fade away just like that & in a friendship one is open & free to say or do or to confide & understand which not necessarily is in every relationship be it parents & kids, Husband & wife, between siblings & in any other relationship we can think of. So maybe they r basing Geet & Maan's relationship on friendship now so that tomorrow when the time comes Geet can freely tell Maan about her past without any inhibition & Maan will also accept her as she is without making any judgement. So this friendship today was the foundation stone of tomorrow! Hope I am right here Nissar!
But I will say the dialogs were a little cliche! And I loved Maan's attitude in this right from the beginning to end. He completely gave the right over to Geet to call the shots. He didn't want to push her into anything, he let her have the comfort to call him her friend & openly accepted her decision & suggestion. He is slowly backing off giving her that space & freedom & not overpower her by encroaching in her personal space that we were witnessing all these months. He is letting her to make the call to come to his life instead of pursuing her himself like he did earlier. And also he wanted her to be happy after the emotional turmoil she faced in the last 2 days. His care & love remains intact & he is now the changed mellowed MSK who is thinking about his actions & reactions, curbing his temper, controlling his taunts & remarks. And he is trying this consciously so that Geet becomes more comfortable with him. All said & done I don't want MSK to change even in love! I love & adore him for the way he is, arrogant, aggressive, ruthless, proud, stubborn & bold & even in love I want to see him with these qualities! Yeah crazy me I know!! 😆
Next segment was a little juvenile, bickering over nothing! And then Geet's comfort level has grown so much with Maan around. It was a nice touch there showing how she pulls him by the hand without a second thought to take him inside that forsaken house or ruins. She didn't feel odd to hold & bring him in like that. "Chhote sahar ka soch' was not there then! 😃 Both r growing in their relationship, that is what is portrayed here.
Again their small squabble not much of value went on! And this time Geet helped Maan for a change to come up, a symbolism Maan is all the time rising in love! All his life he led a solitary life taking care of himself but today he has someone to share his life with & in this he is achieviing a higher level peace, satisfaction & happiness.
The last segment totally filmy & a little over the top for me! I fail to understand why were the villagers against Geet? She didn't do anything to them, then why?? So these people were Brij's friend who were all willing to avenge Geet for what she did to Brij?? Again if this is so, wow, what a friend Brij must be to inspire this feel in his friends!! Amazing 'dostana' I would say! 😃
And Maan's frantic search for Geet & how he slowly gets worried from being mad was good to watch. And he knows every little aspect of Geet be it her nature, personality, mood, jewelry, dress ......everything!! He knew her anklet, her earring & obviously her dupatta.......after all its the only possession of Geet that loves to entangle itself on Maan! 😆
Ok so tomorrow will wait for some MSK type of action back in the ground of HP!! And Guru again looking very tired & exhausted all throughout! He needs sleep, rest & food, big time!
To me this episode was not out of the ordinary or anything but an ok episode with a new phase built in their relation which is making it all the more stronger!
Ok done, Doodle shoot away! Will go & read ur take now!! And I know it will be awesome like everyday! And I am really thankful to have u as a good friend guiding me & others day in & day out with ur explanations, hints & suggestions, here offering my hand in frienship!! Shake it pal!! 😃

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