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Posted: 9 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: astonm


I wasn't referring to the email thing as negative, you're free to express yourself as you like. I just think it's unfair that people are judging the track before it even airs. And I think Aditya is linked to Nirmala, they didn't mention the name and emphasize it when Nirmala visited the Tiwaris for no reason!

It's just that I've seen time and time again that people freak out and then the matter is resolved in a way that is so far from what everyone was worried about.


But I am not judging the Aditya track. I am judging everything that has happened since the Nirmala incident. And nothing is falling to place from that moment. Things have gotten worse. I don't want to comment about Aditya yet because I don't know who he is or what his true motive is. My opinion was mainly about the previous events, which I'm not happy with at all.
And yes people do freak out over certain things and the issue is resolved within days. But here the case is different. The issue that I am talking about (and others) started long ago and there is no sign of positivity. Now it's at a stage where important characters are being shredded for this weak story line.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: astonm


I agree with the Preeti comment, but I feel like that is a product of the fact that the Tiwaris and Malhotras have a long history, they've been friends for years.


I think Sumo's in a place where no matter what she chooses she will lose. She's trying to distance herself from Shravan, she can't really outright tell him what's wrong because that jeopardizes his relationship with his father which she promised not to do. I personally don't think they are at a point where they understand each other, Shravan is caught up in his dad's words as is Sumo. They always assume the worst of the other and that heightened feeling of "I am going to lose her" is going to push them, because until now Shravan has never really felt that he will lose Sumo and now he will. But that's how I feel and I understand that you may view this from a different perspective that makes more sense to you.


I am not going to decide on Aditya's character just yet, I have only seen today, if he is "tharki" I want to see it play out. Plus, I think he's Ahuja's son and that makes his entry all the more meaningful to me. It's an excellent way to bring Nirmala back because Shravan is going to be like "oh you're back again to steal my happiness". Shravan is waiting for Sumo to make a move which she is not going to make, adding Aditya to the picture puts him in a situation where he can't stay away from Sumo.



how do you know he is ahuja's son and who invited him to the wedding when his mother is not allowed there. also, how is causing shravan mental trauma taking the story forward - if this ahuja son comes into the picture, it is going to cause more issues than sort it out as sumo is dumb enough not to stand for her love. here i have a question for you since you write so well yourself, in real life, would u even put up with all this? my issue is that a simple love story of two friends which was very realistic has been turned into a melodramatic drama - how is this diff from an ekta show?

i have seen posts discussing how amazing the new guy's entry was and how he stared at the right things (pun intended) - we are atleast discussing a plot and not supporting weird angles and focus on a woman's lips or her kamar to take a story forward - i dont get it that being women yourself that weird entry was supported by you to see a jealous shravan
Edited by Travelocity - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
#23

Originally posted by: puba

We are all ardent viewers of the show. I love this show...and that is precisely why I want it to be different from every other show currently being aired on Indian TV. However, the recent tracks have lacked logic, simplicity and finesse!


1. How many times on Indian TV have we witnessed the female lead being exploited by the so called negative character of the show?? Invariably the female lead sacrifices her love to protect her family! Does this in anyway denote progressive thinking?? Do we really want the younger generation to watch these things??

2. Do love stories always need an element of jeslousy?? I would say such tracks stem from lousy thinking on the part of the creatives! Their creativity only goes so far...they love using the tried and tested formulae...the word innovation does not exist in their dictionary. Shravan can very well reveal his feelings to Sumo without another person's push!

3. The whole drama that chachi is creating regarding status, demands etc etc...do Indians really need to see all these?? And the cherry on the cake...Shravan is supporting chachi!! He thinks chachi's demands are reasonable...why?? Because she was the one who wanted Shravan gone from the house?? And Shravan knows this very well!! Where is the logic in Shravan supporting chachi?

4. Sumo is a modern day woman...and she thinks it is cool to just ignore and suppress her feelings for the man she loves and show him how much she hates him...instead of going to him and talking things over??

It's not about giving this track a chance...the basic premise of the show has been diluted...the various subplots have not only clouded our view of the main story...but have also introduced logical discrepancies!


Bang on pujaa!!!this whole track is a disaster. What made edkv different from other shows is what has been side lined in this track. It is going the usual family drama way. 3 weeks washed on marriage and nothing has come out of it. Jealousy track would have made sense if they did not know each other's feelings. It was always about fighting their inner demons the third angle had been needlessly thrust upon. It would have made sense to have the confession and get them together and then have the similar kind of problems in their life like nirmala and Ramnath and show how they handle it differently.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#24

Originally posted by: Deb_05


But I am not judging the Aditya track. I am judging everything that has happened since the Nirmala incident. And nothing is falling to place from that moment. Things have gotten worse. I don't want to comment about Aditya yet because I don't know who he is or what his true motive is. My opinion was mainly about the previous events, which I'm not happy with at all.
And yes people do freak out over certain things and the issue is resolved within days. But here the case is different. The issue that I am talking about (and others) started long ago and there is no sign of positivity. Now it's at a stage where important characters are being shredded for this weak story line.


I am not happy with Nirmala's disappearance either but I feel like there is probably a reason behind it? Call me an optimist I guess!


I think a lot of people disappointment stems from the fact that this show is progressing in a way that is not natural for Indian television where the lead first meets and has problems for the first 50 episodes and then does a u-turn and falls in love for the next 40 before some MU and then resolution. They're bunching the MUs at the beginning before getting to the positivity/romance, I might be wrong, but that's how I view it.

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Posted: 9 years ago
#25

Originally posted by: astonm


It's normal to disagree on things, that's why they call it a viewpoint! :)

And I have never watched a Sony show before so I am hoping this one doesn't fizzle out, I am liking where it's going. The thing with me is that the day I feel like it's going downhill I will stop watching but the show is keeping me engaged so far!


this comment was not for you dear but a response to the above post. i am with you - agree to diasgree people and be mature
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Posted: 9 years ago
#26

Originally posted by: Travelocity



how do you know he is ahuja's son and who invited him to the wedding when his mother is not allowed there. also, how is causing shravan mental trauma taking the story forward - if this ahuja son comes into the picture, it is going to cause more issues than sort it out as sumo is dumb enough not to stand for her love. here i have a question for you since you write so well yourself, in real life, would u even put up with all this? my issue is that a simple love story of two friends which was very realistic has been turned into a melodramatic drama - how is this diff from an ekta show?

i have seen posts discussing how amazing the new guy's entry was and how he stared at the right things (pun intended) - we are atleast discussing a plot and not supporting weird angles and focus on a woman's lips or her kamar to take a story forward - i dont get it that being women yourself that weird entry was supported by you to see a jealous shravan


I wouldn't put it past the Tiwaris to not invite her, ngl, especially after Nanu was so supportive of her during the "daal" track. Also, I don't know why they would focus on this Aditya person when she visited and then introduce a guy of the same name.


Honestly, I've never been in a situation like that and I can't say what I'd do for sure, but I don't think I could choose a guy, no matter how much I loved him, over my family. My family is really important to me and I think I'd pick their happiness over my own. It's not that Sumo is dumb, she's just in a hard place. Like I've always found the whole "running away from home" thing uncomfortable because I can't imagine doing that to my family.


But the thing is that this is a show at the end of the day and melodrama sells, desi shows end as soon as the couple gets together which is a problem in itself.


I am not impressed by his entry either, but I feel like that's the reason why he isn't going to stick around for long. Also, the thing is that your appearance is the first thing people notice about you - like when you see a person you're attracted to you do the complete up and down. This isn't the first time a female lead's body has been sexualized - is it wrong, yes. Is it a flaw of the show alone - no.

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Posted: 9 years ago
#27

Originally posted by: astonm


I am not happy with Nirmala's disappearance either but I feel like there is probably a reason behind it? Call me an optimist I guess!


I think a lot of people disappointment stems from the fact that this show is progressing in a way that is not natural for Indian television where the lead first meets and has problems for the first 50 episodes and then does a u-turn and falls in love for the next 40 before some MU and then resolution. They're bunching the MUs at the beginning before getting to the positivity/romance, I might be wrong, but that's how I view it.


I was once optimistic, now I'm always prepared for the worst moment.
And it's not even about the MUs. Of course I don't like MUs at all. But the MUs are baseless and downright BS. They don't even make sense anymore. The entire story doesn't make sense anymore. Dragging things for too long takes away the charm and that is exactly what has happened.
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Posted: 9 years ago
#28

Originally posted by: astonm


I think this is where we'll have to agree to disagree, because I view these points a bit differently!


1. I for one think that Suman thwarted Ramnath when she didn't take the money from him. What she is doing now is what she thinks is the best for everyone, she knows how much Ramnath means to Shravan so she's not trying to come in between them. I am liking Suman's character and how she's handling things but again to each his own. But the thing is that Sumo choosing Shravan over her family's happiness would bring about the same criticism, she's in a hard place and I think she's being a champ.


Life is never a black and white canvas! Is it? It's never about choosing one or the other! She could have very well balanced both sides! Kept her family happy and at the same time she didn't have to behave ridiculously with Shravan! That's as far as Sumo's characterization is concerned. However, as I said in my point...my main trouble is accepting the fact that women in Indian TV are always shown to sacrifice their love...subsequently followed by the female lead ignoring the male lead! Anything new in this? Is it too much for me to ask for something different?


2. The thing with ShraMan is that they're both head-strong and they need the push. Shravan is waiting for her to make a move and she won't because she's being held back by her promise to his father which he is unaware of. And I personally like jealousy tracks, again to each his own, I am not really looking for the show to re-invent the wheel, it is a show after all. And also, I am not even 100% sure how Aditya is going to be used so I am going to wait it out especially with Kamini hell bent on getting ShraMan together.

@bold: I guess you have a different set of expectations from the show! Therefore, I don't have much to say about this!

3. The status drama is so real, and I love how they're showing it in the show. Chachi isn't entirely wrong in where she is coming from, she had dreams about her son's marriage done according to the things she wants. People who have things expect certain things, it's not right to enforce their wants on other people, I agree but it's also not wrong for them to want certain things. Kamini's demands are horrid, but it's a harsh reality and it happens all the time. I love how they're showing Sumo handling it, she's not giving into demands but rather stating why they are wrong. Shravan works by the "keep the family together at any cost" mentality that Ramnath keeps preaching. And I feel like his behaviour is the product of wanting harmonious realtionship and the fact that he's literally grown up among the Tiwaris and considers them family. The show keeps highlighting that with little things, like how he's always the one that walks them out of the Malhotra house and the way he handled the Khosla case.

Shravan knows Kamini chachi does not want to keep the family together...he has heard that with his own two ears. Yet when Ramnath tells him about Kamini chachi's attempt at keeping the family together...he never gives anything a second thought?

Also since he knows the Tiwaris...he should know what they can and can't afford! More reasons to not press them about organizing fancy events!

4. Sumo is not going to talk to him because it will jeopardize his relationship with his dad which is important to him. She's seen what the Nirmala fiasco did and her mind right now is on Preeti's wedding and how to make that go off without a hitch because she feels that it is her responsibility after all that the family has done for her. I don't think she's showing that she hates him, she's just sticking up for herself and distancing him.

She absolutely wants him to hate her. She has been downright rude!



Anyways...whatever...we all have our opinions. That's about it!
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: puba



Anyways...whatever...we all have our opinions. That's about it!


u say what i think much better than i can articulate it! agree with everything especially the underlined part - god forbid anyone falls in love with a person like sumo. yesterday she said mein tumhare liye jaan de sakti hoon- really? whats the point of such heave dialogues jab tum usski jaan lene pe tuli ho 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hi Anjali, agree on some of the points you raised and uncertain about some others - particularly Sumo's unilateral decision-making around the shaadi... BUT that's a friendly discussion I would like to shelve for a rainy day... Instead, I'd like to use this post to appeal to everyone on the forum to please have some patience, and think through their decisions before making any moves.
Many of us have pointed fingers at Sumo for her myopic thinking, right? (I admit I have) 😊 So let's not fall prey to that same weakness now. Formal emails to Sony might end up harming our show... I understand that emotions sometimes run high and force us to act in ways that we otherwise would not. But do we really want to shoot our favourite show in the leg? Sony doesn't seem particularly inclined toward edkv anyways, would we want to create a scenario where they decide to pull the plug, citing audience disgruntlement?
In the end, it's a story, and it will be told from the writers' perspective. When we disagree/hate something we read in a book, do we write to the publisher asking them to force the writer to change the parts we dislike? No! We discuss it in book clubs, with friends, family, etc. The forum is our book club! 😊

We are all very attached to EDKV and particularly ShraMan, and I honestly understand everyone's sentiments. But please, please, please think long and hard before sending that email to Sony...

Edited by an_chau - 9 years ago

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