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Posted: 9 years ago
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so the epi starts with those 3 unwanted creatures
and as i said earlier purani khayalat wali amma thinks a girl like suman who lost her parents is not easy to get married
*lady just leave*
nanu like a boss gave it back to that amma. and its true we cannot control anything. nothing is in our hand. what if she lost her parents. what role did she play?
and looks like they are very much interested in preeti and ll come back again after suman's rishta gets fixed. so preekar too ll have issues. but knowing how mami is she ll be happy that her preeti ll get married to a rich guy like pushkar and forget about paras. girgits all round 😕
preekar again in that cafe. i think they should change their meeting place now. pushkar getting affected by preeti's alliance so fast? 😕
i ll never be able to understand preekar. sorry to all the preekar lovers. no offence
i just loved the scene where ramnath called suman and suman made him tea
such an adorable scene. it was like a hint given by the cvs like how their relation ll be. even lalaji adores her so much.
the scene was so eye pleasing. the bond they share is really nice. well built totally
well i think to some extent suman made a mistake. i know she was put in a position. but she could have avoided it or said something. she is being shown very smart. the way she handled khosla said alot. but guess when it comes to shravan she cannot lie or play games. as she said she can never lie about him and ll always tell everyone how nice he is,
the calm scene of shraman before the storm was so nice
so suman ll never knock and come and shravan ll never lock his door.
shravan trying to hide the book and not letting her touch the book really gave a hint he is still attached to it. its just that cvs are not giving his monolouges to understand what he feels
the book is important.
*feels*
some beautiful bits from the scene was when suman gets shocked when he says thanku
that pushing shoulder thing
shravan saying he doesnot know how it feels when someone else takes care of ur things
pushkar trying to take blessings
AMAZING. THE WHOLE SCENE
AND THEN THE BOMB BLAST WAS SO REALLY FUNNY AND SAD AT THE SAME TIME
kamini realised her place.
it was great to see everyone happy even vandy
ramnath and lalaji celebrating that its their masti time
it was wonderful to watch
and well did ranmnath just say that suman's advice helped him to come to decision
*too much sasur bahu alert*
SHRAMAN FIGHT AFTER A LONG TIME AND DAMN IT WAS INTENSE
I JUST LOVE HIS EYES. TOTALLY HE KILLS WITH HIS EYES.
yea he misbehaved and was very impulsive. both are right in their place. and both ll realise it soon.
that makes their relation so perfect.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Hello Ri

Lovely cap of the episode ... detailed .. i like ur style of writing ... its nice to read a post with honest opinions ... great one ...

The Ramnath & Suman scene ..."BHAGODA" thats the name she coined for him when he came back .. coz he dint stand & face up ... when the going gets tough the tough shud get going .. look at Shravan .. his first instinct is to take the easy way out .. Mom ran out on him & Suman ragged him at school ... he ran away top London ...
Khosla case first sign of trouble he threw money at Khosla & tried to handle the case ...
CHACHI plays home politics .. he runs away ...

Was any of this the right thing to do .. or the right way to do ... ????

Maybe a Sumo pushed him to realize his responsibilities .. like she did during the Khosla case & also when she coined the word BHAGODA for him ...
The answer to CHACHI's home politics is not taking himself away from India or even opening his own Law firm ... it was probably this .. CONFRONTING THE ISSUE ... or every time there was a instance when SHravan's life interfered in any of her SONS .. she would play a game .. case in point the Varun drama during the Khosla case ...

The fight scene was one of those trademark scenes of EKDV ... it was so damn real .. specially Sumo's dialogs .. they cudnt be more bang on ... she emoted perfectly .. it was indeed two best friends BICKERING ... hats off to them ...

Now heres a thot ... the girl in love ...she says ... the kind of intensity of feelings this guy shows .. he cudnt have moved on ... ( well lets give it to her .. she does know him best) ... her next dialog of He will CONFESS SOON ...
& subsequently the Precap ...

She wants SHRAVAN to go down on his knee once more ..but for a different reason .. to confess his feelings ... while she YET does not want to come out with it ..

The last time around .. Shravan had feelings & he put it on a piece of paper for HER ..
While when she has realized her feelings for him .. She is playing it SAFE ..& wanting him to confess ...

Interesting circumstances right .. well a lot more is to happen between the bent knee & now ... but lets hope she realizes ... that SUMO mask needs to be off .. for acceptance of LOVE ...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: redwine1

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">Lovely cap of the episode ... detailed .. i like ur style of writing ... its nice to read a post with honest opinions ... great one ...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">The Ramnath & Suman scene ..."BHAGODA" thats the name she coined for him when he came back .. coz he dint stand & face up ... when the going gets tough the tough shud get going .. look at Shravan .. his first instinct is to take the easy way out .. Mom ran out on him & Suman ragged him at school ... he ran away top London ...</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">Khosla case first sign of trouble he threw money at Khosla & tried to handle the case ...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">Was any of this the right thing to do .. or the right way to do ... ????</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">Maybe a Sumo pushed him to realize his responsibilities .. like she did during the Khosla case & also when she coined the word BHAGODA for him ...</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">The answer to CHACHI's home politics is not taking himself away from India or even opening his own Law firm ... it was probably this .. CONFRONTING THE ISSUE ... or every time there was a instance when SHravan's life interfered in any of her SONS .. she would play a game .. case in point the Varun drama during the Khosla case ...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">The fight scene was one of those trademark scenes of EKDV ... it was so damn real .. specially Sumo's dialogs .. they cudnt be more bang on ... she emoted perfectly .. it was indeed two best friends BICKERING ... hats off to them ...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">Now heres a thot ... the girl in love ...she says ... the kind of intensity of feelings this guy shows .. he cudnt have moved on ... ( well lets give it to her .. she does know him best) ... her next dialog of He will CONFESS SOON ...</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">She wants SHRAVAN to go down on his knee once more ..but for a different reason .. to confess his feelings ... while she YET does not want to come out with it ..</font>
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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">The last time around .. Shravan had feelings & he put it on a piece of paper for HER ..</font>
<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" color="#0000ff" size="2">While when she has realized her feelings for him .. She is playing it SAFE ..& wanting him to confess ...</font>

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="2" color="#0000ff">Interesting circumstances right .. well a lot more is to happen between the bent knee & now ... but lets hope she realizes ... that SUMO mask needs to be off .. for acceptance of LOVE ...</font>


Even I want Sumon to confess this time. I was skeptics before last nights episode thinking if he needs time she should just let him have it and also because CVs left us almost clueless ( I mean like us who depends on your analysis) on Shravan's feelings. However, when he said the book was important for him, there was no doubt left that she still loves her. So, I really hope the CVs make confession come from her this time.

Thanks Ri and Redwine
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Completely Agree the episode was so perfect! I LOVVEED the fight scene! Like their passion and intensity was just so spot on! And Namik played all emotions SO well. That angry look had me slayyed man. IT WAS PERFECT! I was just thinking, imagine if we got Angry Shravan + Jealousy track and how he cant resist but want Sumo like gah it would be HOT AF😆 And like you said, yes he misbehaved but it was realistic and he definitely will realize very soon. I just loved it. I missed this intensity in them.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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We the audience are speculating and wondering abt shravan's feeling just as sumo .. Hence we seldom get any pov scenes of shravan .. That's where cvs wants us. I don't know him holding onto the book is like him holding onto it first love memories just like his keychain and razor.. I can't figure out whether it's the memories or the feelings he is still has abt the letter and love .. I wish we get shravan's thoughts ..
Good post Ri21 and beautiful analysis redwine1
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: redwine1

Hello Ri


Lovely cap of the episode ... detailed .. i like ur style of writing ... its nice to read a post with honest opinions ... great one ...
I agree completely👏



Now heres a thot ... the girl in love ...she says ... the kind of intensity of feelings this guy shows .. he cudnt have moved on ... ( well lets give it to her .. she does know him best) ... her next dialog of He will CONFESS SOON ...
& subsequently the Precap ...
11th may episode in which she is reflecting in front of the mirror that his intense feelings all point to one direction of him not having moved on... felt wrong in so many levels. She was seeing herself in the mirror, it was her perception and her reading of Shravan's feelings (which might be and might not have been right). Further, that particular episode will have its repercussions because Sumo though moving in the right direction is using merely the archaic language of old. Even when she is seen talking with Pushkar and Shravan sleeping in the background, I did feel that she is paying more attention to what was written in the letter rather than how it is in the present.


She wants SHRAVAN to go down on his knee once more ..but for a different reason .. to confess his feelings ... while she YET does not want to come out with it ..

The last time around .. Shravan had feelings & he put it on a piece of paper for HER ..
While when she has realized her feelings for him .. She is playing it SAFE ..& wanting him to confess ..
She wants him to confess because of his reiteration of moved on. And the next few episodes we along with Sumo shall continue to play see-saw as to where Shravan's feelings are headed. But, my question is why does Shravan not want her to see the letter now. He keeps it safe, doesnt share it with anyone and refuses to share it with the original addressee ... why?
What is the letter to him now?


Interesting circumstances right .. well a lot more is to happen between the bent knee & now ... but lets hope she realizes ... that SUMO mask needs to be off .. for acceptance of LOVE ...


Thank you Ria.. for your lovely thoughts. 👏
And Red, you didnt post it as a separate thread? Had I not been checking Ria's post... I wouldnt have seen it😕
Anyways.. as usual lovely write up😳
Congo to both Ria and Red
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Posted: 9 years ago
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that lady was so annoying "haan nahi toh" 🤢
I was like get lost ..
Even me..i just don't like PreeKar at all..i skipped their scene yesterday also.Preeti is so not suitable for Pushkar..
I didn't really find Suman at fault bcos what was she supposed to say..she couldn't really say that Shravan is a bad lawyer..she was just being honest and Ramnath had already decided about it..
Loved the ShraMan scene.. 😳
Shravan gets so easily riled up when it comes to Sumo..the way he got annoyed at her.. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: indranigupta


Thank you Ria.. for your lovely thoughts. 👏
And Red, you didnt post it as a separate thread? Had I not been checking Ria's post... I wouldnt have seen it😕


Whoa i did warn ya .. i am super lazy😉 ... was not intending to write at all .. but Ri's post brought the words diahorrea pouring out ... loved her piece .. & it made me write my take .. INSPIRED ..
Anyways.. as usual lovely write up😳
Congo to both Ria and Red

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: redwine1

Hello Ri


Lovely cap of the episode ... detailed .. i like ur style of writing ... its nice to read a post with honest opinions ... great one ...

The Ramnath & Suman scene ..."BHAGODA" thats the name she coined for him when he came back .. coz he dint stand & face up ... when the going gets tough the tough shud get going .. look at Shravan .. his first instinct is to take the easy way out .. Mom ran out on him & Suman ragged him at school ... he ran away top London ...
Khosla case first sign of trouble he threw money at Khosla & tried to handle the case ...
CHACHI plays home politics .. he runs away ...

Was any of this the right thing to do .. or the right way to do ... ????

Maybe a Sumo pushed him to realize his responsibilities .. like she did during the Khosla case & also when she coined the word BHAGODA for him ...
The answer to CHACHI's home politics is not taking himself away from India or even opening his own Law firm ... it was probably this .. CONFRONTING THE ISSUE ... or every time there was a instance when SHravan's life interfered in any of her SONS .. she would play a game .. case in point the Varun drama during the Khosla case ...

Interesting train of thought Red...and when you couple it with her phrase of "I cannot lie about you to anyone"...well u can see it ties in beautifully though the implicit aspect could be "I may lie to myself about you or I may lie to you about you"...However, what Sumo did yesterday was confront or take the bull by the horns when asked a direct question. Well...there may be issues of propriety or the like but it has to be accepted that she faced the onslaught straight on...which incidentally is very different in the way she deals with matters of her own heart...Typically Sumo, so I found this a very interesting conflict point in the development of the love story





The fight scene was one of those trademark scenes of EKDV ... it was so damn real .. specially Sumo's dialogs .. they cudnt be more bang on ... she emoted perfectly .. it was indeed two best friends BICKERING ... hats off to them ...

Now heres a thot ... the girl in love ...she says ... the kind of intensity of feelings this guy shows .. he cudnt have moved on ... ( well lets give it to her .. she does know him best) ... her next dialog of He will CONFESS SOON ...
& subsequently the Precap ...

She wants SHRAVAN to go down on his knee once more ..but for a different reason .. to confess his feelings ... while she YET does not want to come out with it ..

The last time around .. Shravan had feelings & he put it on a piece of paper for HER ..
While when she has realized her feelings for him .. She is playing it SAFE ..& wanting him to confess ...

Interesting circumstances right .. well a lot more is to happen between the bent knee & now ... but lets hope she realizes ... that SUMO mask needs to be off .. for acceptance of LOVE ...

Lovely the way you put the above aspect of Sumo's mask. I have the same thoughts about it as well. How can one protect one's heart in love as it is the first casualty?

There was an innocuous dialogue.."You will never knock" and " You will never close the door"

Innocuous did I say? No it was rather deep in my afterthought...

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread...Sumo is no fool but she has a disposition to go headlong into matters...When Namik in one of his interviews ( I forget which one tho) mentioned that Sumo is the central character on which the story revolves..meaning it is Sumo centric...and I actually wondered why Namik said that becos in some ways the narrative has actually not been Sumo-centric despite giving us glimpses of her thought process...However, yesterday's dialogue just confirmed why it is perhaps so...I suspect that there is a lot of growth in Sumo's character that we are likely to witness going forward.

Sumo has been playing it SAFE as you said...and which is why I said in one my earlier posts that love is not a zero sum game and so both Sumo and Shravan would have to understand this...Sumo largely becos Shravan "will never close the door" and Shravan can be given the benefit of doubt as he is the "once bitten twice shy" category...So, Sumo has to take matters in her own hand...lay bare her heart and be prepared for the consequences...even if it were dire...For real love, they are no losers only winners...

I also agree with Indrani's perspective on the mirror scene of Wednesday...If you notice there is an interesting use of the mirror telling you that how perceptions/observations can be faulty when seen through a mirror...In my view it was another way of saying that Sumo is reading Shravan through the reflection of a rear view mirror...and "Objects in the Rear View Mirror May Appear Closer Than They Are" So Sumo is seeing the situation from a rose tinted view so she needs to start looking straight on rather than through the mirror...She is presuming her goal to be closer than it actually is. Shravan is not the 16 year old boy anymore. That h loves Sumo is undisputable, there for all to see but the "conquest" of his heart is not going to be easy..



Thank you Ri ( hope its ok to call you that) for your lovely post...It set the ball rolling for so many interesting thoughts. Your post title was very thought provoking and your summation of yesterday's episode gave many things to ponder about. Lovely posts Red and Indrani...I have alluded to Red's and Indrani's post above to add my own thoughts...to their thots...

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Shravan's moved on .. this will come to light yaar ... don't worry an oft repeated litany like this will be thrown to light ...
I have read numerous confusions on Shravan on the forum ... my take he is the easiest to read character ... .. what he feels for SUMO ... whether one wants to bracket it as love or care doesnt matter .. but she is one of the most imp people in his life ... she has the power to influence him .. she has the power to reset his thinking .. she has the power to make him see reason ... she is as close to ramnath as anyone for him... hence u get that dialog of Sumo's which says moved on is not possible ... if he has blanked his mind to his love for her .. it won't take much to get him back there ..
Red... brilliant.. Super. 👏Yes, there is no question that he loves her (okay cares for her)... the way he takes offence at the fact that she advised his father on the Chachi wala thing... is his way of telling that you are important to me... so i expect more from you
And I loved the way you said that it won't take much to get him to the time when he penned that letter... (11Th May episode had me fretting... sent our funny philosopher lamba sa msg... because I couldn't reason my own feelings😆... thank you for clarifying)

Now as for why he does not want her to read the letter .. i thot Shravan;s mind set was clearly shown to us by the maker ... he says ... SHE IS NOT INTERESTED IN ME >> he says ... DO NOT PUSH GIRLS AT ME ... i AM HAPPY SINGLE ..


Heres a guy .. who was thwarted in love ... his parents marriage broke .. his whole belief of LOVE LASTING ..is shaken .. for him love cost him his friendship .. revisit the terrace scene once again .. see his earnest ness when he says " duniya ka sabse khoobsurat ehsaas" ... it was for HIM .. he believes that .. coz FRIENDSHIP BOUND ... & LOVE BROKE APART ...

But love is there ... hence the letter remains ...as a most cherished possession .. as a reminder ... but he will not share it .. coz love to him has the power to BREAK ...
I agree with your analysis that his love or his declaration of love has consciously and unconsciously been connected with his parents and with the collapse of their relationship
Love has the power to break...great analysis
Its make sense, no for the mother to make her entry at this moment😛
Few lines for you on the letter from Shravan's POV:

A historical object or an artifact

Of

Times gone by

Of a family

My mom and dad

Together

Frame around me

For me

Not outside the door

Was I.

Her

Smile, antics (they were plenty)

Was my life...

Companion was she

I believed to be

For the rest of my life

These lines had been penned down a week ago... and I forgot them myself.😆
Yes, Sumo and his love for her reminds him of a time when the world was beautiful and true.. yet it also brings home the fact love often does not complete its journey...

The letter

Transfixed in time

Circumscribed by age

Letter became

Words on a page

Frame broken,

Closed is the door

And a friend no more

Why do I then keep it safe?

Carry it along with me

Everywhere...




Whoa i did warn ya .. i am super lazy😉 ... was not intending to write at all .. but Ri's post brought the words diahorrea pouring out ... loved her piece .. & it made me write my take .. INSPIRED ..
Next time you do write something ...pm (I can miss it you know..) almost did just thought of peeping into Ria's post
Thanks again for your explanation...my mind often becomes happy😃
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