Order and Disorder: Question and Declarative

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So many analysis for yesterday's episode up there and all as good as the other... so there's not much left for people like me to do. Then, let's play a game related to whatever we have grasped of the 50th episode. Shall we begin? Game is titled "Order and Disorder: Question and Declarative". The Questions shall be from both Sumo and Shravan:

Will Shravan come back after a period of ten years? Disorder in the mind, disorder within the heart...Why did he say I have moved on when I had apologised to him, both verbally and in print? Disorder spinning outwards...What was the reunion party all about? Humiliation for me, why? Disorder of the worst kind... accident... Why didn't he help when I went with Nanu's request? Wasn't it enough that he had exacted revenge on an act which I had committed inadvertently and foolishly ten years ago? Wasn't I a child then? Disorder spiralling into nothingness...

Who the hell is Verma to speak ill against her? Should I go and inform her to stay away from the creep? Why the hell am I bothered? Confusion, raging storm within.. .Disorder...

Why did he ask me to stay away from Verma? And who is he to have the audacity to tell me to go ahead with a different lawyer? Why not him? Going to London is so important for him? Disorder tramples my very being...

Why can't I leave? London is where I belong, now.. why cant I leave? What stops me? Disorder leading to war... Why didn't she tell me that this Sumo was an image created out of my hopes? What did I just say? Of course not, there are two sides to every person and Sumo is a dramatization of this same fact.. rite? Sumo and Suman, how did I miss the signs? Fear, rising tension (sounds like passion, no, NO, NO)... Disorder...

Why didn't 6 crores bring a smile to her face? Why did it matter to me? How did I feel when we won the case? Disorder... temptations abound...

Why did he term this "beautiful ehsaas" as friendship? Why not...? And his glance, his flirting (was it not?) how am I to read them? Disorder...Shall get to the bottom... Tests failed? Why did he need to go? Disorder and pain...(Chachi kameeni, this is Indrani's line btw and many fellow viewers like her😆)... Game lets play... three questions: Why Verma? He mouthed shit against you. But, was it so simple? Blah... Disorder to order.. Disorder dies out? Tom and Jerry chase? Sent a heart emoticon. This is far worse, is it so inane? Blah...Disorder to order.. Disorder dies out? You had hidden the passport? It was a kaand again by you? Kaand.. Disorder.. let mother earth swallow me.. Now Order restored? What's in the bag? Personal.. damn it is personal. Why don't you see more? Cheeky, what was that? .. Disorder? Damn Order!!!

Letter? Disorder, turmoil, a chasm and order... Can there ever be?

"IS IT LOVE"?

It was love... and now?

Game continues. Have you ever loved anyone? Yes... more disorder, pain.. my heart is breaking into thousand pieces. Order anyone?

Who?

Game over...

Questions changed.

Did you do something about it? No... Disorder, can be destroyed, rubik cube solved.. Order?

I HAVE MOVED ON

The letter had ended with a question, a question sprung from a young boy's heart... IS IT LOVE? Sumo answers and experiences it as, WAS LOVE and wants to know its status now? Sumo... moved on have you analysed it what it means?

Move on from one point (subject, idea) to another also, invariably involves association with the past, with what happened before

I have moved on... from a brash child concerned with images.. I have on moved on from that phase.. that was Disorder then, this is Order now

I was a nerd, too sensitive for my age and worshipped the ground she walked on... that was Disorder then. I have moved on from that phase. Order now

All my resentment and bitterness of past ten years have been wiped away by her... I have moved on. That was Disorder then, Order now. We are the best of friends

Sumo when telling him that these are all signs that "you shouldn't go... you don't understand Sumo, I am only expediting my going... I would go anyway"... I will move on from here to London. Disorder now.. Order later on

Is it love? She answered it ten years later... it was love... truly love. Order restored? Now?

I love him ...he has moved on... Disorder reigns supreme...

Is it love I had asked back then? Now, I have moved on and it is no longer a question.

I did not say the question is irrelevant. I said it is no longer a question. It is an affirmative.

I have MOVED ON from asking whether it was love to stating

IT IS LOVE...

I HAVE MOVED ON

Few scenes that left an immediate imprint on your mind... Chachi came back through the door and Suman moves out (moves on).. .yet who belongs more to that place? The door which will control disorder and restore order, encompass structure and symmetry, embrace integrity and love and them. It was a brilliant piece of direction, btw.

The letter symbolizes the dynamics of arrangement and order being restored, brought into shape and brought to the notice of Sumo who was arranging his suitcase (Cupboard anyone?). Game imagery used throughout... were they really innocuous questions which were being discussed? Verma, SMS, Passport? Chaddi? You can see more?

Restoration of order and yet disorder remains in the background.

What needs to be done is to change the question to a declarative? How so?

Answer was there in that inane phone call made by Preetha. Milk has split, so no curd and hence no curry. Sumo's answer damn... don't make the curry, make paneer instead. Raw material is still the same, fragmented and broken (ten years ago) and yet something new will come up.. not to proclaim it as better than it was supposed to be but as worthwhile of their present.

THEY WILL HAVE MOVED ON TOGETHER.

There's still so much to discuss in yesterday's episode. But, I am tired. One thing more, game means move and it only does not pertain to right moves, it also includes wrong moves.

Likewise, yesterday's episode didnt require Sumo's last question. Because the answer was already there in her hands.

So, I leave you with this post

Hope I made some sense😆

Awaiting your responses.🤗

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Posted: 9 years ago
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👏Bow down !!
This post is beyond perception brilliant

what an uterly new way to look upon things and minor details

Hail u indrani👏

and yes Panner formation----------as sumo said dahi naih hai to paaner bana do as dudh fat gaya ...ek din paaner baney se koi toofan naihn ajayega...😊👏

What i am trying to say change...and willingness to from as how daily routine of curd chenge into Panner a fresh new menu similary...Shraman...relationship is going to form more rapidly now ,,,,,,is what i feel..😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Res...will post soon...thank u...

so many lovely ideas u put forth...mind boggling...am processing it😆 will revert with my comments soon...😊

UNRES

Restoration of order and yet disorder remains in the background.

What needs to be done is to change the question to a declarative? How so?

Answer was there in that inane phone call made by Preetha. Milk has split, so no curd and hence no curry. Sumo's answer damn... don't make the curry, make paneer instead. Raw material is still the same, fragmented and broken (ten years ago) and yet something new will come up.. not to proclaim it as better than it was supposed to be but as worthwhile of their present.

THEY WILL HAVE MOVED ON TOGETHER.

Beautiful...your words above bring me to a thought...

Of all the different ways in which the letter reading was dissected, discussed, perceived before the actual event, I did not imagine that I will look at the event as a circle, closing of a loop as it were. The event succeeded in some ways to bring the narrative back to where it all began (in a manner of speaking). However, it also changed the order of things. Ten years ago, it left a pining Shravan heartbroken from what he perceived as indifference from his friend and yesterday, it left a heartbroken Sumo who comes to the realisation that she has lost Shravan of the yore who has "moved on". Uncanny that yesterday we discussed the possibility of old and new saplings in the garden of love ... Curdled milk and paneer...beautiful analogy...


Move on from one point (subject, idea) to another also, invariably involves association with the past, with what happened before

I have moved on... from a brash child concerned with images.. I have on moved on from that phase.. that was Disorder then, this is Order now

I was a nerd, too sensitive for my age and worshipped the ground she walked on... that was Disorder then. I have moved on from that phase. Order now

All my resentment and bitterness of past ten years have been wiped away by her... I have moved on. That was Disorder then, Order now. We are the best of friends

Is it love I had asked back then? Now, I have moved on and it is no longer a question.

I did not say the question is irrelevant. I said it is no longer a question. It is an affirmative.

I have MOVED ON from asking whether it was love to stating

IT IS LOVE...

I HAVE MOVED ON

Indrani...words fail me to describe the order-disorder conundrum you have so beautifully expressed...Standing ovation!!

Absolutely agree...Shravan has moved on but in the way as you have described... There was a finality to his stance of "aisa zaroori to nahin ki jise hum chahe woh humein bhi chahe " Though it can be interpreted in any way, its important to note the sentence is Present continuous...no mention of any past tense...striking in a way...eh??



Edited by sanfan - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
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My first post in IF. was always a silent reader till now. of Sankadevi's live reactions, and of analysis by prc_fan,angel,redwine,chicksoup and yourself.CAPS from FERO. You guys are all so talented. The MASK by redwine1 today,This disorder and order by you and the R-Saga by JJKKL few days back. All are so good. Am so happy to get such a great forum and such a fantastic show. Love Shraman. And love Namik and Nikita. 😳 😳 👏
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Damn! Order. Disorder. Order. Disorder.
Your post was playing constant ping-pong with my brain. 🤣

But, I must say, your analysis was on a completely different level. The amount of thought you put into it is amazing. My favourite part of the post, needless to say was the below and the analogy of their relationship and the split milk scene. Kudos, lady!

Originally posted by: indranigupta

I love him ...he has moved on... Disorder reigns supreme...
Is it love I had asked back then? Now, I have moved on and it is no longer a question.
I did not say the question is irrelevant. I said it is no longer a question. It is an affirmative.
I have MOVED ON from asking whether it was love to stating
IT IS LOVE...
I HAVE MOVED ON

Edited by -Sarcy- - 9 years ago
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The insight on Preeta's call- never would have thought on my own really. Brilliant again.
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OMG!!! I've never thought the most simplest words MOVED ON could mean so much... Indrani, this is brilliant...
For me the words MOVED ON uttered by Shravan meant that he moved on from hoping and dreaming of her reciprocating his feelings... even though the memories and sweetness of the innocent first love lingers till our last breath... one-sided love does has an expiry date and ten years is a very long period
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Nice..
"They will move on together " 😊
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Originally posted by: mannu100

👏Bow down !!

This post is beyond perception brilliant

what an uterly new way to look upon things and minor details

Hail u indrani👏
Thank you Mannu.🤗.. glad you liked the game. And as you rightly said its the game of perceptions

and yes Panner formation----------as sumo said dahi naih hai to paaner bana do as dudh fat gaya ...ek din paaner baney se koi toofan naihn ajayega...😊👏

What i am trying to say change...and willingness to from as how daily routine of curd chenge into Panner a fresh new menu similary...Shraman...relationship is going to form more rapidly now ,,,,,,is what i feel..😊


Yes, there shall be a creation of something new and yet the old shall remain😉
Glad you liked it
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so many lovely ideas u put forth...mind boggling...am processing it😆 will revert with my comments soon...😊

The episode itself was lovely, thought-provoking😃

Restoration of order and yet disorder remains in the background.

Beautiful...your words above bring me to a thought...

Of all the different ways in which the letter reading was dissected, discussed, perceived before the actual event, I did not imagine that I will look at the event as a circle, closing of a loop as it were. The event succeeded in some ways to bring the narrative back to where it all began (in a manner of speaking). However, it also changed the order of things. Ten years ago, it left a pining Shravan heartbroken from what he perceived as indifference from his friend and yesterday, it left a heartbroken Sumo who comes to the realisation that she has lost Shravan of the yore who has "moved on". Uncanny that yesterday we discussed the possibility of old and new saplings in the garden of love ...

Curdled milk and paneer...beautiful analogy...

I dont why i get the feeling that somebody from the team of EKDKV does stalk our forum. 😆Thoughts are so similar to what we had been discussing yesterday or day before. Circle... nice

What goes, comes back

Stairs goes up and down

Door... you can enter and you can leave

Game... you win , you lose

And most importantly, circle requires a centre (ZGH anyone), Kashaf mouths to herself that tum (Fawad's character) mere zindagi ke margaz ho

You cant draw a circle without a centre (Compass.. geometry classes😉)

Indrani...words fail me to describe the order-disorder conundrum you have so beautifully expressed...Standing ovation!!

Muah! Thank you so much. It feels great😆

Absolutely agree...Shravan has moved on but in the way as you have described... There was a finality to his stance of "aisa zaroori to nahin ki jise hum chahe woh humein bhi chahe " Though it can be interpreted in any way, its important to note the sentence is Present continuous...no mention of any past tense...striking in a way...eh??

Word.. you noticed it didnt you? Present continuous... yes, yes, yes😉😃😆

Problem with these two adorable cuties (Shraman) is they are asking the wrong question and landing up with the wrong answers.




Thank you Sanfan.🤗 Am very happy you liked it.😛
It was a wonderful episode. Glad to be a fan of this show😊

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