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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: priti_24

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Only RT could have done PRC - jab bhi koi PRC ke bare mein padega or will think he will see the face of RT. Veer is the role of a normal person...aur bhi koi actor kar sakta tha..but none other could have given justice to the role of PRC as RT did.
I disagree. Again.😃 I do agree that only Rajat could have done such a superb job at acting as PRC However! Veer is not just the role of a "normal" person. Veers caharcter throughout the drama is faced with so many problems and issues that it undergoes a change. This change brings with it much emotion and I dont believe that any actor could have displayed these emotions better than an actor of Rajats quality. Veer starts off as carefree and fun loving. Then we see the deep love he has for Dharam. Then we see the limits that Veer can go to to save Dharam (phasi track, Shera trying to kill Dharam track) We then see how Veer faces the situation of going against Dharam (Gurukul track and beginning of Khazana track) We see how Veer feels when he is to be crowned King. So through this Veer has matured considerably and become more serious and thinks more about his actions. THEN when Veer finds out he is not an Aryavarth but a Shramik we see how he faces that situation. Only a great actor could have acted Veers role and only Rajat could have brought justice to it.

u urself agree to this and say -'I do agree that only Rajat could have done such a superb job at acting as PRC' ab bache ya hai....now give up...
now ur point that veer has faced changing emotions..so was the case with PRC...he was a kid daring and masti khor..yaad hai daase se ched chad..same as veer..then going to ashram and showing that ardent desire to learn to be the best...the courage to say that he wants to learn the shabbhedi ban vidya..no fear of death...achanak se chota bacha became so ambituos and determined...then his zeal to learn how to be the best king and help his praja he went fro khazane ki khoz mindboggling daring and intelligence, then mental turmoil with someshwasr death..sudden responsibility, war with bhimdev , loosing sanyo..all emotions ..dear kuch nahi bacha..vo sab kuch jo veer mein ur counting its far more in depth in PRC..these points cut each other...this just doesnt justify RT getting more scope of acting..he already showed all those emotions in PRC.
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Give up? KHABHIE NAHIN!😆 Ab toh bahut himmat baki hain yaar😉 I sai I do agree that only Rajat could have done such a superb job at acting as PRC... But yaar tum nay agey nahin parah kya?😆 Then I say that Veers character is not a "normal" role. I was saying that Yes Rajat was great as PRC but to say that Veers role is not as great as PRCs role was is the wrong thing to say because Veer has changed as a character throughout the drama😃 As for saying that Rajat already showed these emotions in PRC and now hes just doing the same then this would be wrong. Yes he is showing the same emotions but hes showing them with more intensity and with better skill than when he was PRC.
Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: priti_24

PRC was one of the best kings of india ..we knew more about him becaue of RT..his mindblowing perfromance, his each emotion, each action scene, each tear, each smile took us to that era.. he lived that character to such heights that we now know how brave, devoted, loving and dedicated was PRC. RT suited so well to that character that we started to love that character..People started to read more and more about the true story of PRC.. RT ne sabko etna involve kiya in that role that people got mesmerised with that king. It was just because of RT..everyone got interested in the story of PRC..
This only proves what a great actor Rajat is. and great actors need to move onto more challenging roles so that they can develop into Brilliant actors. Veers character has helped Rajats acting skills evolve and become even better than what they were in PRC. This point doesnt prove that Rajat is better suited as PRC only that he acted PRCs role amazingly well.

debate es baat ka hai ki RT is better as PRC or veer..nor on this that he is improving or not? ive said in another argument too that an actor needs to grow with time...and how can u prove that his role as veer is more challenging..jo sab daleel aap de raho as his multidimensional personna vo sab PRC mein bhi tha...far better i would say...



Again an actor cannot grow with just time alone. He needs bigger roles with more complex issues and differening roles to do this. As for the multidimensional aspect thats all opinion Sweetheart😃 But I can back my opinion up with the fact that Veers character is undergoing change. PRCs character may have been faced with many problems too but he did not change as dramatically as Veer did. Veer became responsible more mature and more serious more deeper thinking than PRC who was always these things from the beginning of PRC drama.

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: sugarpie_26

my god nisha!kya muh todh jawab diya hai!!aur gana bhi bana diya vah maza agaya!


thanku mehran😛
mujhe to bas ye pata hai ke mujhe bada maza araha hai😉😃 am really enjoying this debet👏

@aisha wah kya jawab hai .....keep going dear....
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: priti_24

RT's fans- let me say all of us are behind RT becasue we saw him as prithvi...ekdam se he had a huge fan follwing...his fans are increasing today too, but not to that extent which was during his PRC days.. sorry to say this that veer ko sirf rajat ke fans he dekhte hai..but prithvi ko everyone watched..kids, grown ups, men women, elderly..ive seen people saying 'yeh ladka kitna achcha lagta hai es role mein' ;..they were not RT's fans..they were mass viewers. he pulled masses to watch him as PRC..but sorry again veer mein vo baat nahi..masses dont wacth Dv..only we his fans are watching...veer mein vo kuch baat nahi jo PRC mein theee..he was like a magnet...RT is a also a magnet..so PRC suited best on him..
PRC was promoted better and more than DharamVeer. People didnt watch PRC for Rajat but because it was about PRITHVIRAJ CHAUHAN. Rajat however was so wonderful in portraying this character that people continued to watch it. DharamVeer is a very different serial and its plotline would maybe not be something that the masses would watch because it is not categorised in a general field. It is action and adventure based in a historic time period and most people like to watch modern saas bahu type dramas. So I dont believe Rajat is better suited to PRC. If DharamVeer was promoted better the way PRC was then Im sure everyone would agree that Rajat is better suited to Veers role.

Serial ka promotion yahan kahan se aaya my dear respectable veerian....we are talking of RT as veer or PRC...not promotion...and if u still say i would say PRC was promoted by mouth to mouth publicity...
and both PRC and DV are historical serial...jab PRC mein RT was acting kya tab saas bahu serials nahi thae?
and above all people got interested in PRC more n more since RT suited very well in that role..he made that role so lively and worthwatching..people were addicted to watch it...prithviraj chauhan kala mota tha...agar aisa koi artist act kar raha hota no one would have watched..it was RT who was so beautiful and worth watching..and rest u have said i need not say
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Rajat however was so wonderful in portraying this character that people continued to watch it.' this is enough to prove RT is better as PRC...people have proved this...



But PRC was Rajats first major role. Not many people knew him as Sai Babas little brother! They only found out about him when he played PRC! And PRC is well known in India because it is a Rich part of Indias History Im sure that Rajats good looks werent the thing that attracted us to watch him It was his ACTING and the majority of people watching DharamVeer are Rajat fans but only because we wanted to continue seeing him on the screen! And to say that Rajat is better suited as PRC because he made the role lively and worth watching.., well thats exactly what hes doing with Veers role! Hes making it lively and worth watching!😆 Rajat was wonderful as PRC and made it worth watching BUT Rajat as Veer is also wonderful and makes it worth watching even more so because its a new role with a difference! Rajat is better suited to playing Veer because we want some new spiceAnd Veers role is giving us that!

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: priti_24

RT will always be known as prithvi...shayad veer ko log bhul jaayeg but prithvi ko kabhi nahi..etna powerful role was enacted by him ..each and every face of prithvio suited RT perfectly. jab bhi prithvi ko dekte hai u cant stop felling in love with him...RT kitna bhi bada star ban jaaye he will be special in the heart of his fans as PRC.
He will be special as PRC because that was the role that shot him to fame. Christopher Reeves is always remembered as Superman because that was the role that shot him to fame. A great actor is remembered for his one great performance. A Brilliant actor is remembered for his Brilliant acting skills. We too would wish as Rajats fans that he be remembered as a BRILLIANT ACTOR and not just as "Rajat who played PRC" Amitabh Bachan will not be remembered for the movies he played in but the fact that he was a BRILLIANT actor.

ur now in my team dear....uve said all..'.He will be special as PRC because that was the role that shot him to fame. Christopher Reeves is always remembered as Superman because that was the role that shot him to fame. A great actor is remembered for his one great performance. A Brilliant actor is remembered for his Brilliant acting skills.' and i add to this RT will always be a known brilliant actor...and this he proved as PRC...and an actor is alway remembered for the roles he play dear...amitab bachan is remembered for his films only...agar films nahi hote how would we know he was a brilliant actor? a person proves his skills when he is given some task isnt't it?



No yaar! Im still a Veerian!😆 I said that a Great actor is remembered for ONE great part that he played. A Brilliant actor is remembered as having played many roles and not just the one that made him famous. Rajat is a Brilliant actor. And Im sure that although we will remember PRC we will remember more Rajat the Actor. Not Rajat the guy who played PRC. Thats what I meant to say. As for Amitabh Bachan we see him as Big B. We dont see him as Jay from Sholay. We remember his movies but we see the Person and remember that first and foremost. A person proves his skills when given a task YES BUT we remember the skill and not the TASK.

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 17 years ago
Well said,Aisha.It's unfortunate for me that when u all r there,i am not been able to participate due to my net problems. 😭
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: priti_24

RT and PRC are 2 faces of one person..as prithvi vo etne cute and best tha that they cant be seperated..we like RT more as him being cute..nahi..we miss his cuteness in veer...i know my opponents will be with me on this..do tell wht your hearty says.. bad if you say RT is more hot as veer again i disagree..whenver he was a hard king he was hot..when he was dressed as a fighter he was hot..when he looked at sanyo he was hot..i think all my oponents are speachless by now..
No not speechless yet!😉 If RT and PRC are the two faces of the one person then its even better that Rajat went on to play a character that is not like him! In fact I think Veers character is more like Rajat than PRCs character was! PRC was very serious and mature and responsible but Rajat is more easy going and funny and charming like Veer!😆 In fact there are similarities between Veer and PRC and Im sure that Rajat shares SOME of their qualities but NOT all of them so much that he is actually LIKE that character completely. Again yaar this doesn prove that Rajat is better suited as PRC! In fact it disproves this! Rajat would be better suited to a role that challenges him! If PRC was like Rajats own character (which I dont believe it was) then it would have been easy for him to act and therefore his acting skills would no have been challenged and he wouldnt have become a better actor! BUT I believe that PRC DID improve Rajats acting skills because it was a great role but when Rajat had learnt all he could as an actor from PRCs role it was better that he move onto VEERS characters because Veers character is more complex andwould have challenged Rajat more as an actor.

soch leejeye theek se kya kehna hai dear veerian..ur just speechless...u urself dont know wht to say..sab kuch etna contradictory hai...ek taraf u say '
If PRC was like Rajats own character (which I dont believe it was) then it would have been easy for him to act and therefore his acting skills would no have been challenged and he wouldnt have become a better actor! BUT I believe that PRC DID improve Rajats acting skills because it was a great role' and then u say RT is more like veer..bubbly and all..if he is like veer then this role is so easy for him..but u say its complex and has helped him evolve...so contradictory....be calm and think...u ahev on;y one point..and baar baar u say it -' veer character more complex more chalenging'...u need some new point dear..vo sab ive proved is in PRC too..and ab u urself have praised PRC ...leave now dear...



Leave? When its just getting fun?😆 No way Honey! Okay here i was said that PRC and Rajat are like the same person. So if they are the same person it would have been easy fro Rajat to act this right? Then I said that actually PRC is NOT like Rajat because Rajat is funny and not serious whereas PRC is serious and responsible and very mature. THEN I said that in some ways VEER is more like Rajat than PRC is. Veers character is charming and funny and easy going similar to Rajats personality. HOWEVER I said this to point out that PRC and Rajat are not the same person in fact VEER AND RAJAT are more similar.
BUT this doesnt mean that I think Veers character is easier to play because THEN I said that PRC and Veer share similar characteristics! SO in conclusion I was saying that PRC is not like Rajat I was giving an example of VEER being like Rajat and then I was comparing VEER with PRC so that we can see that PRC is not like Rajat and Rajat is not like Veer and that his acting skills show this. Whew. And yaar how come you never quote my full sentences?😉 I DID say that PRC improved Rajats acting skills and it was agreat role for him BUT THEN I continued saying "
but when Rajat had learnt all he could as an actor from PRCs role it was better that he move onto VEERS characters because Veers character is more complex andwould have challenged Rajat more as an actor." So what I was saying was that PRC is great but Rajat would not have learnt any more from that role and Veers role was offering Rajat to learn more! As for the complex challenging role that Veer is... well... Its true😆 And thats my strongest point!

Aisha xxx😉
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Posted: 17 years ago
👏 Har Har Mahadev!! Go Go PRCiance
Well..
About Role Or Acting Don't u guys think tht Besides Being Different Script & Story Line Of The Starting As Many As Scene's,Dialoughs [exeptional], Story Line** Taken From or Inspired By PRC only..
So For Tht matter RT actually acted well as PRC for these scenes compare to Veer's
As PRC there was so much scope to perform on every different situation Its Fighting,War,Friendship or Love..
Veer's character has many shades But they r not upto the mark n does not have so much scope in those particullar scenes from PRC...
In Tht way those scenes played more energatically in PRC
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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: subha2601

Well said,Aisha.It's unfortunate for me that when u all r there,i am not been able to participate due to my net problems. 😭


are yaar dont worry
ab to agayi hona to bas shuru hojao...😉


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Posted: 17 years ago

Originally posted by: priti_24

RT was best as PRC - this can be proved by the fact that each day we all people try to find the same things in veers character's that we were fond of in him asPRC...isnt't? hume veer mein vahi sab dekhna hai jo humne PRC mein dekha tha..this proves what an impact RT did on our minds as PRC...
Not true! I loved Rajat as PRC but now he is Veer I dont watch him and hope that he is like PRC! In fact I want him to be different! And Veer is different! If he was the same then it would be boring and Rajat would not be challenging himself which he should be doing because we know how Great and Brilliant and actor he is!
u could not prove by this statement that RT is better as veer..and see around dear..poore public har scene mein har baat mein veer mein PRC khojte hai...
Yeh sirf opinion hain yaar! And this statement may not prove that Rajat is better suited as Veer but it definitely disproves the statement saying that "RT was best as PRC - this can be proved by the fact that each day we all people try to find the same things in veers character's that we were fond of in him asPRC...isnt't?" This is opinion and I was counteracting with my own opinion Vaisey I didnt write that Rajat is better suited as Veer after my statement now did I?😉 It doesnt prove that Rajat is better suited as PRC either now does it?

This chic young lad looked extermely handsome and charming in those kingly clothes or PRC...his personality exactly matches the personality of prithvi..we can never take eyes off him dressed as prithvi..him dressed as ram in rammleela, as krishna, as yuvraj when sanyo came to meet him in ajmer wow! RT 's beauty went se well with the role of PRC..
Yaar yeh debate Rajat kay goodlooks key hain yah oss key acting skills key?😆 Rajat looks Handsome whatever he wears! The guy would look good in a bin bag😉

debaet hai wht suits RT more..so sab kuch aayega..looks bhi..dress bhi...RT is gud in all he wears but baat ho rahi hai he looks better in wht ..its obvious dressed as a king....this im not saying..i read comments of everyone around in our forum...
No yaar we are debating what ROLE suits Rajat better not what LOOK suits Rajat better. A role obviously will change a characters look throughout the drama but that doesnt mean we will stop watching if we dont like how his look has changed! And again what he looks better as PRC or Veer is OPINION!

Aisha xxx😉

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