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441597

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Posted: 11 years ago

#381

I think this should present the final egg on Bharara and his supporters' face(s):

www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/us-dismisses-case-against-devyani-khobragade/article1-1194428.aspx

Edited by krystal_watz - 11 years ago

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@K.Universe.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#382

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/us-dismisses-case-against-devyani-khobragade/article1-1194428.aspx

http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/justice/indian-diplomat-indicted/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

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441597

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Posted: 11 years ago

#383

Doesn't matter what happens to her now. The ruling vindicates India's stand that Bharara's actions were misplaced at the time because of Khobragade's diplomatic immunity, something that his supporters were staunchly opposing. A stand that you had called "petulant behaviour" at the time now stands proved correct.

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@K.Universe.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#384

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

The ruling vindicates India's stand that Bharara's actions were misplaced at the time because of Khobragade's diplomatic immunity, something that his supporters were staunchly opposing. A stand that you had called "petulant behaviour" at the time now stands proved correct.

You are not considering the timelines, either unknowingly or deliberately.

Khobragade was granted diplomatic immunity only on Jan 8th, 2014, after the Indian government transferred her to the UN mission in NY. Before that she only had consular immunity so none of Bharara's actions were "misplaced" nor there is a reason to feel vindicated. Soon as she was granted full immunity, she was told to leave, which was on Jan 9th and the indictment was "arranged" for the same day to coincide with her departure because there was tremendous pressure on the state department (what with so many Indian politicians and dignitaries kicking and screaming) to delay the indictment till her G-1 visa was approved and she is asked to leave.

Because the indictment was "arranged" for Jan 9th, and because she was given diplomatic immunity on Jan 8th, the judge had no choice but to rule that the charges be dismissed. Since she's not presently serving at the UN mission in NY, the charges are back on.

So, stop with the premature gloating and the egg-on-face taunts.

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return_to_hades

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Posted: 11 years ago

#385

The last I heard a fresh indictment has been filed. As Mister. K said I won't consider the case "dismissed" yet.

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441597

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Posted: 11 years ago

#386

Mister K: Sorry, my mistake. I didn't indeed take the timeline into consideration. But still, going through the article minutely, the prosecution had argued against retrograde immunity which was dismissed.

Edited by krystal_watz - 11 years ago

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-victoRiya-

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Posted: 11 years ago

#387

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

You are not considering the timelines, either unknowingly or deliberately.

Khobragade was granted diplomatic immunity only on Jan 8th, 2014, after the Indian government transferred her to the UN mission in NY. Before that she only had consular immunity so none of Bharara's actions were "misplaced" nor there is a reason to feel vindicated. Soon as she was granted full immunity, she was told to leave, which was on Jan 9th and the indictment was "arranged" for the same day to coincide with her departure because there was tremendous pressure on the state department (what with so many Indian politicians and dignitaries kicking and screaming) to delay the indictment till her G-1 visa was approved and she is asked to leave.

Because the indictment was "arranged" for Jan 9th, and because she was given diplomatic immunity on Jan 8th, the judge had no choice but to rule that the charges be dismissed. Since she's not presently serving at the UN mission in NY, the charges are back on.

So, stop with the premature gloating and the egg-on-face taunts.

When India 'arranges' such things, it becomes necessary to abhor and mock while when U.S. does the same for its own diplomats/workers abroad, it becomes fair trial and Lord's justice, mind you even in cases of cold blooded murder 😆

On case- even if she did not have immunity, its not 'just' under any law to pay more than/equivalent to she earns to her maid. If the USA's laws get transgressed by it, they better amend them or else Indian govt. needs to amend its payment policy for diplomats.In any case, given her nature of employment and residence, negotiation between the two countries was the right way to go about it.

Handcuffing and cavity searching was in no way required. In fact it is not resorted to anywhere in the world except cases where the suspect is likely to cause further offence or try to escape police custody. Where were both these prospects likely?

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BirdieNumNum

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Posted: 11 years ago

#388

Bharara pagla gaya hai. US Courts should put a restraining order on this mad dog.😆

by the way, if someone ever ran a cavity search on him, they'd find a giant hole where his brain should be. An a-hole.😆

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_Angie_

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Posted: 11 years ago

#389

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

Bharara pagla gaya hai. US Courts should put a restraining order on this mad dog.😆

by the way, if someone ever ran a cavity search on him, they'd find a giant hole where his brain should be. An a-hole.😆

😆 Cant really blame Bharara. He has gone by the book. However as per some reports not everyone in the Obama administration is thrilled with Bharara's crusade in this case. Some administration officials have conceded that the Khobragade flap had robbed bilateral ties of energy and momentum, although they maintained Bharara had a case. But diplomacy is not played by the book, they acknowledged. "Besides, he's not the one who will be serving in missions in India," one mandarin observed ruefully, alluding to the fact that the fracas had resulted in the withdrawal of many privileges that US diplomats enjoyed in India unless it was offered to Indian diplomats in US on a reciprocal basis.

Meanwhile, reacting to the re indictment, the MEA in India has said the court in the US has no jurisdiction in India over the diplomat and the government will no longer engage on this case. I think that's quite a sensible stand to take. All that Devyani has to do is to avoid going to the US. Her family could relocate to India. There is some cloud over the citizenship of her spouse and kids. A diplomats spouse needs to be Indian or so I gather.

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charminggenie

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Posted: 11 years ago

#390

@ Angie - Agree with all you said.

Her spouse and kids seem to have American passports which go against the policy that states Indian diplomats spouses and children must be Indian citizens. The husband hasn't stayed in India enough to apply for citizenship. It has miffed the MEA too.

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