jesus and krishna - the connection

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Posted: 13 years ago
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(jesus and krishna were different people but what they preached was same )
derive your own conclusions ----->



God Vishnu, who is the preserver and takes birth on earth from time to time as per vedic,

why fish? Matsya the Fish appeared in the Satya Yuga and represents beginning of life.
The first avatar of vishnu was a fish "Matsya", muslim 1st pagambir was also fish.



1. Matsya, the fish-avatar who saved Manu ' the progeniter of mankind from the great deluge and rescued the Vedic scriptures by killing a demon. Story can be found in the Matsya Purana.
2. Kurma, the tortoise-avatar, who helped in the Samudra manthan ' the churning of the ocean. Story can be found in the Kurma Purana.
3. Varaha, the boar-avatar, who rescued the earth from the ocean, by killing her kidnapper-demon Hiranyaksha. Story can be found in the Varaha Purana.
4. Narasimha, the half man-half lion avatar, who killed the tyrant demon-king Hiranyakashipu, to rescue the demon's son Prahlada, who was a Vishnu-devotee
5. Vamana, the dwarf-avatar, who subdued the king Maha Bali. Story can be found in the Vamana Purana.
6. Parashurama, sage with the axe who killed the thousand-armed king Kartavirya Arjuna
7. Rama, the king of Ayodhya and the hero of the Hindu epic Ramayana
8. Krishna, the king of Dwarka, a central character in the Bhagavata Purana and the Mahabharata and reciter of Bhagavad Gita. However, in the original Dasavatara stotra, Balarama, the elder brother of Krishna, is stated as the eight incarnation, while Krishna (Lord Kesava) is the source of all the incarnation.
9.Gautama Buddha





even the pope hat is of fish shaped, the reason is clear from the above pic...

just as said in the beginning of life on earth the fish carried the vishnu and
delivered his message to save the world.. the so called elected
pope acts like the carrier of vishnu or his message


The Christian doctrine of the Trinity teaches the unity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as three persons/entities...
the Hindu trinity - brahma [creator], vishnu[preserver], shiv [destroyer]
Brahma who is said to create this domain in which everything exists...
vishnu always takes birth/manifests on earth from time to time [to preserve it] and can be considered as the son and rest is quiet obvious...
Shiva is the destroyer ... the one who destroys - every second that passes away/time everything ... without time this domain would cease to exist... its the "holy spirit"
If you read vedic texts and other such works by sages,yogis etc... you will come to know that every human has kundalini/shakti power in the base chakra and shiva at the top of the head... which when united together by meditation/yoga etc gives the seeker enlightenment and many powers/siddhis etc and seeker comes to know that he/she is not the body but spirit/soul or whatever ... ... thats your holy spirit inside

according to Islam also the first pagambar came via fish

Catholic church started christianity slowely as it happens everywhere people who didn't liked the order broke away and formed different christian sub church groups


⭐️ Jesus christ telling people abt kundalini - from thomas gospel -->

Jesus said to His disciples,
"These infants being suckled are like those who enter the
Kingdom."
They said to Him, "[color=gray]Shall we then, as children, enter the
Kingdom?"

Jesus said to them, "[color=gray]When you make the two one, and when you
make the inside like the outside and the outside like the inside,
and the above like the below, and when you make the male and the
female one and the same, so that the male not be male nor the
female female; and when you fashion eyes in the place of an eye,
and a hand in place of a hand, and a foot in place of a foot, and
a likeness in place of a likeness; then will you enter [the
Kingdom]."[/color]



When Kundalini Shakti passes beyond Ajna (Third Eye), duality (male - female) and ego cease to exist. The gross elements of the individual dissolve into the pure elements of consciousness. The person then starts creating his environment consciously ..what is inside is outside




Stephen Van Eck writes: "Then there is the Hindu epic, the Bhagavad-Gita, a story of the second person of the Hindu Trinity, who took human form as Krishna. Some have considered him a model for the Christ, and it's hard to argue against that when he says things like:


* 'I am the beginning, the middle, and the end' (BG 10:20 vs. Rev. 1:8 ).
* His advent was heralded by a pious old man named Asita, who could die happy knowing of his arrival, a story paralleling that of Simeon in Luke 2:25 .
* Krishna's mission was to give directions to 'the kingdom of God' (BG 2:72), and he warned of 'stumbling blocks' along the way (BG 3:34; 1 Cor. 1:23 ; Rev. 2:14).
* The essential thrust of Krishna's sayings, uttered to a beloved disciple, sometimes seems to coincide with Jesus or the Bible. Compare: 'those who are wise lament neither for the living nor the dead' (BG 2:11) with the sense of Jesus' advice to 'let the dead bury their own dead' (Matt. 8:22 ).
* Krishna's saying, 'I envy no man, nor am I partial to anyone; I am equal to all' (BG 9:29) is a lot like the idea that God is no respecter of persons (Rom. 2:11 ; see also Matt. 6:45 ).
* And 'one who is equal to friends and enemies... is very dear to me' (BG 12:18) is reminiscent of 'love your enemies' (Matt. 5:44 ).
* Krishna also said that 'by human calculation, a thousand ages taken together is the duration of Brahma's one day' (BG 8:17), which is very similar to 2 Peter 3:8.



⭐️* Eusebius of Caesarea (circa 283-371 CE) wrote: "The religion of Jesus Christ is neither new nor strange."

* St. Augustine of Hippo (354-430 CE) wrote: "This, in our day, is the Christian religion, not as having been unknown in former times, but as having recently received that name."




⭐️The fifth gospel of Thomas was written in India.

It has not been included in the Bible, it was not available to Constantine, who was compiling, and who was deciding what was to be included and what was not to be included. It was because of him that all these ideas and mythologies and fictions have been added to the life of Jesus.

Jesus sent Thomas to south India.

Thomas, is the disciple closest to Jesus. But his sayings are not included in the Bible, because the real Jesus and his closest disciples have to be excluded ' they are too dangerous.

Jesus was trained in one of the oldest secret schools.
The school was called Essenes. The teaching of the Essenes is pure Vedanta.That's why Christians don't have a record of what happened to Jesus before his thirtieth year.

They have a little record of his childhood, and they have a record after his thirtieth year up to the thirty-third, when he was crucified ' they know a few things.

But a phenomenon like Jesus is not an accident; it is a long preparation, it cannot happen just any moment.

Jesus was continuously being prepared during these thirty years.

He was first sent to Egypt and then he came to India.

In Egypt he learned one of the oldest traditions of secret methods, then in India he came to know about the teachings of Buddha, the Vedas, the Upanishads, and he passed through a long preparation.

Those days are not known because Jesus worked in these schools as an unknown disciple.

And Christians have knowingly dropped those records, because they would not like the son of God to also be a disciple of somebody else.

They would not like the very idea that he was prepared, taught, trained ' that looks humiliating.

They think the son of God comes absolutely ready.



⭐️Walter Raymond Drake (1913 - 1989) -

The Dead Sea Scrolls surprise us by not mentioning Christ or Christianity, the Essene teachings suggest that some of the Christian doctrine originated a century earlier. Nothing is gleamed of Christ from contemporary sources, surprising in an age of classic writers; almost all we know of Him is from Church written by imaginatives decades later. Perhaps Christianity is a Myth necessary to the evolution and inspiration of man during the lost Piscean age? Man's questing soul soars beyond the dogmatic creeds of yesterday to the cosmic religion of tomorrow.

The oldest source of wisdom in the world must surely spring from India , whose initiates long ago probed the secrets of heaven, the story of Earth, the depths of Man's soul, and propounded those sublime thoughts which illumined the Magi of Babylon, inspired the philosophers of Greece and worked their subtle influence on the religions of the West. "


⭐️OSHO - Jesus didn't create christianity, Emperor Constantine did

I say unto you that Christianity is one of the most untruthful religions in the world.

Christianity is a fiction.

It has not been helpful to humanity in finding the truth in any sense.

It has been trying to propagate lies so continuously that they have almost become truth.

Jesus had never even heard the name Christianity. It has been imposed on him, he was not the founder of Christianity.

His life was written eighty years after his death, by people who had not directly known him.

Now even Christian scholars have come to the conclusion that the Christian gospels were not written by the apostles but were written by somebody else, because the mountains described are not in the same place where they are described in the gospels. The rivers described are not in the same place where they are described in the gospels.

Everything was written by people who had not known Jesus Christ, and neither had they lived with Jesus Christ.

Who exactly was the founder of Christianity?

One thing is certain, Jesus was not. He never thought about founding a religion, he was simply telling the Jews, "I am your last prophet."

He died on the cross as a Jew.

You can find Buddhism in the teachings of Gautam Buddha; he was the founder. You can find in the teachings of Mahavira that he was the founder of Jainism. You can find in the teachings of Lao Tzu that he was the founder of Taoism. But it is a very strange thing about Christianity: Jesus had no idea at all, was not interested in creating a new religion.

Then who founded Christianity?

The man who founded it ' you will not believe it ' was the Emperor Constantine. The church knows it, but does not allow the public to know it.


Emperor Constantine of Rome, who headed the Council of Nicea, died as a Christian, but he was baptized only on his deathbed. His whole life he was the high priest of the Sun God religion, which was why he changed the sabbath from Saturday, which was Jesus' sabbath day, to Sunday. Jews still have their sabbath on Saturday, and Jesus also had lived his whole life believing in the sabbath on Saturday. How did it become Sunday?

It was Constantine, who was a worshipper of the Sun God. Sunday represents the sun; the followers of the sun have always believed that Sunday is a holy day.

It was Constantine who was actually the founder of Christianity. He was the decisive factor in the Council of Nicea. It was under his pressure ' because he was the emperor of Rome ' that the priests voted for the divine personality of Jesus. He made Jesus a divine person. It was his creation, his invention.

Constantine saw Jesus as a failed messiah, with himself as the real messiah ' and his view was ratified by the famous Christian bishop, Eusebius of Caesarea, who said, "It is as if the religion of Abraham is at last fulfilled, not in Jesus, but in Constantine."

He also changed Jesus' birthday from January sixth to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. The twenty-fifth of December, which is celebrated all over the world, is not Jesus' birthday. The whole idea of their Christmas is bogus ' and the church knows it perfectly well but won't allow people to know about it.

Jesus was born on January sixth, but under Constantine's influence and power, it was changed to December twenty-fifth, the day of the solar rebirth. It is thought by the sun worshippers that the sun was born on the twenty-fifth of December.

The whole of Christianity is living in utter darkness.

Constantine, killed ten thousand people in a single day. He just called an assembly of all those who were not Catholics in a great auditorium in Rome, and ordered the army to kill everybody: "We don't want anybody other than Christians in Rome." He forced the whole of Italy to become Christian' just at the point of a sword.

The whole history of Christianity is of wars and nothing else ' killing and violence.

Constantine imposed himself as the real last prophet for whom the Jews had been waiting. Of course, the Jews could not crucify the emperor of Rome. And the Christians wanted some royal support; otherwise they were being crucified everywhere. They found a shelter in Constantine, but it was a bargain, purely business. They accepted that Jesus was a failed messiah, and that Constantine was the real messiah.

But this is not told to the public! Christians are not aware of it. All these scriptures are hidden under the Vatican.

They have been talking about truth, but they have been hiding immensely important things.

They have changed all the gospels, they have edited everything that was going to be difficult for them to argue for, to defend.

The whole of Christianity lives in a paranoia that if anybody finds some truth, then what is going to happen to their lies that they go on propagating?

The Vatican has an underground library of thousands of scriptures which they have burned, saving only one copy.

Nobody is allowed to enter, except the pope and the cardinals, to see all the evidence, all the proofs which go against Christianity.

The public is not allowed to know what the truth is.

It should open the underground library in the Vatican to all the scholars who want to study there, and Christianity will evaporate without leaving a single trace on the human consciousness.

Religions teach faith because they cannot help you to find the truth.

They themselves don't know where truth is.

Perhaps, in the whole history of the popes, only one pope was honest.

This pope was Pope Leo the Tenth in the sixteenth century.

He is reported to have said, "It has served us well, this myth of Christ."

source // - Osho ' Christianity: the deadliest poison and Zen: the antidote to all poisons.



⭐️Vatican shiva ling -





Every sage lives in a Hermitage which is called "Vatika". Vatika which is still now called "Vatican".

Bell, Book and Candle – the major symbols of Christmas are nothing but reminiscent of Hindu temple where bell is a must, book refers to holy book and candle is equivalent of Deepak or light of Yajna. Bell is derived from Sanskrit word "Bal" meaning strength. Bell is used in temples to provide strength to prayers.

The ancient Vedic custom of applying ash or sandalwood paste to the body is still retained by Christianity in the observance of Ash Wednesday. The so-called "All Soul's Day" is an exact translation of the Vedic observance of Sarva Pitri Amavasya, the day fixed by tradition for the worship of all deceased ancestors.


Pope derives from "PaapaH" meaning remover of or absolver from Sin.
Vatican derives from "Vatika" which means a hermitage. In Vedic tradition, sages used to live in hermitages.(Ashrama-Vatica" or "Dharma-Vatica" or "Ananda-Vatica.)

Priest and Abbot derive from "Purohit" and "Bhat" respectively, both signifying Vedic priests.
Pontiff is a corruption of the Sanskrit term 'puntah'.
Saint obviously is offshoot of 'Sant'. Apostle is Sanskrit 'Aap-Sthal' signifying one who proceeds from place to place [for preaching]

The term "vestry" in referring to the room in churches in which holy clothes are kept comes from the Sanskrit word vestra, meaning clothes. Even the word "psalm" with a silent "P" comes from the Sanskrit word sam or sama which means holy and serious sacred songs, hymns or chants, as found in the Sama-veda.

manuscripts what does it means
'handwritten scripts'? but why 'manu' scripts?

Manu = "Satyavrata" (One with the oath of truth)

well Manu [???] is a title accorded to the progenitor of mankind, and also the very first king to rule this earth, who saved mankind from the universal flood.
He was the one to give the knowledge to sages/rishis to write the first laws for humans known as 'Manusmriti' [?????????] [Smriti (Sanskrit: ??????)] literally "that which is remembered," refers to a specific body of Hindu religious scripture/text]

The text presents itself as a discourse given by Manu to a group of seers, or rishis, who beseech him to tell them the "law of all the social classes". All future Dharmasastras followed it and yeh corrupted it also.

The word Man surely originates from Manu or "Manav" .Manav[hindi/sanskrit] means 'Human' in english.

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Edited by saturn001 - 13 years ago

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