Too much love can kill or end in tragedy

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Loving anyone too much ends up with both parties being badly hurt.
The greater the attachment the greater the demands and restrictions.
I believe we should give each other some space or time of their own.
Jealousy is the number one cause of breakups and violence.
Wang is charged for murder of his lover.
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Yishun murders: Tattoos, blood letters to seal their love


Friday, Nov 25, 2011

SINGAPORE - Details of the love story behind the couple at the centre of the 2008 stabbings in Yishun were revealed in court yesterday.

Accused Wang Zhijian gave investigation office Assistant Superintendent Jason Lim an account of his relationship with deceased Zhang Meng.

In his statement, which was read out in court on Thursday, Wang said that he had a tattoo on his back of Madam Zhang.

According to local media reports he also revealed that they had a tumultuous relationship with many break-ups and reconciliations.

He did not know she was married until about a year into their relationship.

When she confessed to him in June 2006, he decided to end it. But she convinced him not to.

Three months later, he wanted to break up as he suspected she was seeing other men, reported The Straits Times.

But this time, she reaffirmed his love to him by pricking her finger and writing in Chinese characters, "I love Wang Zhi" on a piece of paper.

But she stopped saying her finger hurt. She asked him to prick his finger and finish what she wanted to say. He obliged and added the words "Jian I want to marry him".

In November 2006, Madam Zhang told her husband about Wang. Her husband, Mr Feng Jinqiang, met up with Wang and Madam Zhange and calmly let her choose who she wanted to be with.

Madam Zhang said she chose Wang as she did not have feelings for her husband.

Two days later he received many calls from Madam Zhang's younger brother, younger sister and brother-in-law.

They pestered him to go to Madam Zhang's home. He was beaten up by her sister and brother when he got there. Her brother also threatened to kill him.

Wang and Madam Zhang fled Tianjin for Chengdu after Chinese New Year but returned after 20 days as she missed her daughter.

Wang resigned from his job in April 2007 on medical grounds and received a pension.

According to the national daily, he spent 100,000 Yuan on branded clothes and expensive meals for Madam Zhang in three months.

In May 2007, he tattooed her picture and a rose on his back.

Zhang left later that month to tend to Mr Feng, who had had a stroke.

In July, they broke up but patched things up in September. Between September and November 2007, she and her daughter Jianyu stayed with him. Jianyu later got a place in a school in Singapore.

They broke up again in March 2008 and he moved into a new place without telling her.

But Madam Zhang tracked him down when she returned to Tianjin and rekindled their relationship. Madam Zhang then returned to Singapore when the school term started.

Two months later, when she went back to Tianjin she asked him to follow her to Singapore.

On September 19, he was arrested for her murder in Singapore.

The trial continues next Friday.

dassa@sph.com.sg

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: Summer3

Loving anyone too much ends up with both parties being badly hurt.

The greater the attachment the greater the demands and restrictions.



I disagree with the first statement. I don't believe there's anything as 'too much love'. Love just is. That 'love' can be classified as Earthly Love (physical plane of existence) or Transcendental Love (spiritual plane) is another matter altogether.

However, I agree with the 2nd part of your post. Like you said, an attachment places too many restrictions on a relationship. Too many people confuse a negative attachment with love, which is why you tend to experience emotions like jealousy, insecurity, neediness, etc. in a relationship, which can ultimately lead to severed ties and acts such as the one you've outlined here.

In a negative attachment, you often tend to seek outside, what you cannot find within.

A negative attachment isn't really love in its true form. It's just what it is- a negative attachment.


Edited by pinkfreud - 13 years ago
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Originally posted by: pinkfreud



I disagree with the first statement. I don't believe there's anything as 'too much love'. Love just is. That 'love' can be classified as Earthly Love (physical plane of existence) or Transcendental Love (spiritual plane) is another matter altogether.


And just what is that?
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For most of us loving without attachment is most difficult. Pure love is ideal but ego and attachment always get in the way. Humans are basically gregarious and each individual has a certain magnetic quality that attracts us to them. Young kids have this quality in abundance which endear them to us.
I guess Transcendental Love is the product of wisdom; universal or spiritual love.
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I don't think too much love can kill or end up in tragedy because it is not love at all in the first place. It's plain obsession that has gone to extremes.
I'm sure the guy in question must be a troubled soul with some serious past issues or he must have been a weak minded person who did not know to say "no". The lady must have also realized this because it is clear that she was using him all along. His pricking his finger must have been proof sufficient of his imbalanced mind. She would have just made use of his weakness. When he finally realized that she was using him all along, he must have got desperate. Hence his extreme action.
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Originally posted by: zorrro

And just what is that?



Hmm. It's not an easy thing to explain first thing in the morning. I'll post something that may outline the concept later on, but as of now, this should suffice:

Originally posted by: Summer3

I guess Transcendental Love is the product of wisdom; universal or spiritual love.




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In which category would you like to place the following !

Pak police arrest woman for 'killing, cooking husband' in Karachi

Published: Friday, Nov 25, 2011, 19:09 IST
Place: ISLAMABAD | Agency: ANI

The Pakistan Police have arrested a woman, Zainab Ahmed, for killing and cooking her husband in Karachi. Zainab's nephew has been also detained in connection with the murder.

Police said Zainab drugged her husband, after he attempted to rape her daughter, and subsequently, killed him and cooked his body parts. The stench alerted the neighbours who informed the police, BBC reports. Police said the probe into the murder is underway, and they would initiate formal charges against the suspects soon

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Posted: 13 years ago
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Too much love = obsession and obsession is VERY bad.
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Originally posted by: angie.4u

In which category would you like to place the following !

Pak police arrest woman for 'killing, cooking husband' in Karachi

Published: Friday, Nov 25, 2011, 19:09 IST
Place: ISLAMABAD | Agency: ANI

The Pakistan Police have arrested a woman, Zainab Ahmed, for killing and cooking her husband in Karachi. Zainab's nephew has been also detained in connection with the murder.

Police said Zainab drugged her husband, after he attempted to rape her daughter, and subsequently, killed him and cooked his body parts. The stench alerted the neighbours who informed the police, BBC reports. Police said the probe into the murder is underway, and they would initiate formal charges against the suspects soon



This has nothing to do with love, the man raped her daughter.
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This has nothing to do with love, the man raped her daughter.

i dont think the woman shud go to jail.

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