Temples should allow non-Hindus, agree? - Page 5

Originally posted by: PhoeniXof_Hades

Just to clarify a point, mosques actually allow[s?] women. But the women are made to pray in a corner unlike the men, who takes over the whole mosque. The place where women pray is covered heavily with drapes and all (so that men's eyes do not reach them, lest they commit a sin). (Take it from someone who frequents mosques almost every week).
Reason given is that since visiting/going to the mosque isn't compulsory for the women as it is for the men, women seldom goes to mosques, as such, men are given more spaces unlike women.

Personally, mosques or any other place of worship can be a great way of socialization for people. As such, I feel these things need to be reformed. But can you actually change things that were practiced for over a thousand years?

Most of the kids here go to mosque every day after school (primary school) for Islamic school where they get taught how to read arabic and lessons on religion etc but as soon as primary school is over (approximately aged 11), the girls don't go to mosque. Infact I don't think I have ever seen a female above the age of 11 go inside a mosque for friday prayers or for ramadan or anything else for that matter.

I have no idea how those little kids in primary school managed to have time to themselves because as soon as school would finish they would go to the mosque and only come home at around 7.30, where they would eat their dinner and most people would just sleep after that. 😕

I like the idea of a religious place of worship being a place to socialise and not a place to spread hatred through hate speech to try and instigate and brainwash people. Gosh I was so scared after watching the BBC panorama show where a reporter went undercover to some mosques where some guys were preaching against the west.

Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

Is the temple a sight seeing location? What the hell was he doing in the temple?

When I want to enter a place of worship of another faith, I inquire if it is ok for them to have me. If for some reason I do not follow a custom they know why

It is a place of worship. Generally the head priest has his sets of rules in place. And some are more stringent than others, I can see why certain temples have entrance rules. One of them being. Eating of beef is not acceptable to lots of hindus. If a person eats beef and enters a temple. The temple can be considered contaminated.

Dont like the rule, dont go to that temple, There are gazilion other temples in Puri or in the country.

That would mean I have contaminated every temple and every ritual I have been in. Besides, I know foreigners who are pure vegetarian/vegan and may know a lot more about Hinduism and Hindu rituals than I may. So with these rules in place how do we figure out who's who. Or do we start branding ourselves to make things clear?

Originally posted by: return_to_hades

That would mean I have contaminated every temple and every ritual I have been in. Besides, I know foreigners who are pure vegetarian/vegan and may know a lot more about Hinduism and Hindu rituals than I may. So with these rules in place how do we figure out who's who. Or do we start branding ourselves to make things clear?

Originally posted by: hindu4lyf

Most of the kids here go to mosque every day after school (primary school) for Islamic school where they get taught how to read arabic and lessons on religion etc but as soon as primary school is over (approximately aged 11), the girls don't go to mosque. Infact I don't think I have ever seen a female above the age of 11 go inside a mosque for friday prayers or for ramadan or anything else for that matter.

I have no idea how those little kids in primary school managed to have time to themselves because as soon as school would finish they would go to the mosque and only come home at around 7.30, where they would eat their dinner and most people would just sleep after that. 😕

I like the idea of a religious place of worship being a place to socialise and not a place to spread hatred through hate speech to try and instigate and brainwash people. Gosh I was so scared after watching the BBC panorama show where a reporter went undercover to some mosques where some guys were preaching against the west.

What country is this?

In fact religion must not be taught to kids when they have no idea what they are being taught in the name of religion. They should have a choice to grow up and then learn religion of their parents if they are interested in it otherwise not. Their choice.

Originally posted by: chal_phek_mat

Is the temple a sight seeing location? What the hell was he doing in the temple?

When I want to enter a place of worship of another faith, I inquire if it is ok for them to have me. If for some reason I do not follow a custom they know why

It is a place of worship. Generally the head priest has his sets of rules in place. And some are more stringent than others, I can see why certain temples have entrance rules. One of them being. Eating of beef is not acceptable to lots of hindus. If a person eats beef and enters a temple. The temple can be considered contaminated.

Dont like the rule, dont go to that temple, There are gazilion other temples in Puri or in the country.

Exactly, why give importance to such temples by going in there. Most of these temples are only interested in making money, they allow certain rich people who donate lot of (black) money to them. The day these rich people will stop donating loads of money to them, they will let all sorts of people come in to get their money 😛

Originally posted by: Bartz

Exactly, why give importance to such temples by going in there. Most of these temples are only interested in making money, they allow certain rich people who donate lot of (black) money to them. The day these rich people will stop donating loads of money to them, they will let all sorts of people come in to get their money 😛

these days religious movements and evangelism is raising tons of money.

Originally posted by: Believe

I believe anyone can pray God from anywhere...!!Prayer does not mean saying something to god, asking for something, prayer means listening to god.... If you have to say something it can only be a thank you....religions all over the world have been teaching people unnecessary prayers...people are repeating those prayers.....They have lost all meaning, they have become pure ritual, they are only formal ....Prayer cannot be Christian or Hindu or muslim, just like love cannot be Christian or Hindu or muslim...😊

There indeed is no single, definitive way of praying to God. But that doesn't mean that the prayers of Christian, Hindu or any other religion have lost their meaning. Any prayer done with purity of heart and faith is effective, that is what I believe. It's not exclusive to any one particular tradition - they're all equal, depending on how honest and devoted the person following them is.

That said, the incident in the Jagannath temple is indeed a condemnable and selfish, elitist act. As long as the person isn't doing anything explicitly disrespectful, they don't have any right to unceremoniously shove him out, much less hand him over to the police. In my city, we have people of other religions and countries visiting our temples too (prominent ones, in fact), and everyone is treated with respect.

Originally posted by: Brosder

There indeed is no single, definitive way of praying to God. But that doesn't mean that the prayers of Christian, Hindu or any other religion have lost their meaning. Any prayer done with purity of heart and faith is effective, that is what I believe. It's not exclusive to any one particular tradition - they're all equal, depending on how honest and devoted the person following them is.

I agree..everybody have their own freedom to believe different concept...I believe God is not a discovery, it is an invention... the other fact is In the name of religion, politics has reigned all over the world......here the belief creates such an attitude within him that he begins to feel that he knows!!😊

Let me quote you Aurobindo words: someone ask him..."Are you an atheist?"...Aurobindo said, "No."..then man said' What do you mean? You are contradicting yourself'?

Aurobindo said, "Wait a little. You aren't allowing me to say anything more than no. As soon as I say no, you start asking other things. Wait a little. I was saying that I don't believe in God because I know him. Because I know him I don't believe in him. He is. This is not a belief. This is my knowledge, my knowing."

That said, the incident in the Jagannath temple is indeed a condemnable and selfish, elitist act. As long as the person isn't doing anything explicitly disrespectful, they don't have any right to unceremoniously shove him out, much less hand him over to the police. In my city, we have people of other religions and countries visiting our temples too (prominent ones, in fact), and everyone is treated with respect.