@ Anu: Word to everything you said yaar. Ahh, thanks for posting that Shakti-Amar video. That performance was just so epic...complete with all the theatrical effects. See that's what you were saying about the music choice na? There's bits in the song that go with the story. Or rather, it's Terence's creativity that he MADE his concept/dance moves FIT the song completely. Like the bit where the music slows down during the part where Kunwar (the matador) is just about to kill Shakti (the bull). I loved the way Terence used that piece of music. And the fear mixed with treachery we see in Shakti's eyes just before she is about to back-stab Amar. See, there are LAYERS in the song itself that can be used so creatively. Even when the music goes fast and we can feel the high point of the battle. Shakti and Amar dance wise...were more spontaneous as well. Things like that leap of faith moment. You know? They just went for it...no inhibitions. "Went for the kill"...in Terence's words. :)
Ohhh...and another bit I love is that "mujhe maut ki god mein sone de" bit after Shakti "kills" Amar. And there's this tiny little beat...where Shakti spreads out her cape. It's so tiny but SO effective. SO hauntingly effective. Ahhh...Terence is just something else with his creativity man!! The way he uses the TINIEST of beats! 👏
Oh and word about Raghav as well. He's got spark...much more than Mohena or Sanam and I still maintain that he's much more 'versatile' than either of them for that reason alone...even if he's not an all star.
And oh yes, I think both Sneha and Pradeep completely transform on stage! Otherwise they both seem so calm and a bit introverted. But when they're performing, they just BECOME the characters completely. I think Terence himself mentioned this about Sneha especially one time...it's like her switch turns on when she's on stage. 😆 Aww, Sneha's honestly my favourite female contestant on the show right now. I find her personality endearing too. It's real, even if it's not all perfect and confident and all. She seems like a an honest person. And so quirky. 😆 Isn't it just so refreshing to see someone NOT be so 'perfect'? I honestly find it too endearing. I reallyyy hope she doesn't get eliminated too soon...I feel like watching DID would be a little dull without her. And Pradeep, Varun, and Raghav. All these goofballs. :P 😆
P.S. I went nuts with making avis. lol
Originally posted by: Tannistha
none of them are strictly average so to speak, yes sanam is boring and repetitive, but that's as much as his mentors fault as his. If you are really discussing strictly average, how do you explain the fact that urvashi managed to entered top 13 ? I think most of the dancers this season are quite strong and being too much in professional dancing lacks the soul some times. why isn't raghav boring and repetitive and is a darling star? its his 4th performance counting sunday's and he has already managed to be repetitive,his potryal of laxman and ravan on mytho episode was totally off the mark..anyways, both of us clearly have different opinion.
I agree piyali has improved a lot, her contemporary has improved by leaps and bounds and even her classical which acc to me was strictly average during final audition and first solo. But that's exactly was my point, they could have taken some other, more refined classical dancer. They could have done even better.
why do u keep harping on sanam and mohina? sanam definitely is not the best,hell i agree with you, the guy infact is a little better than average but still i thought couple of his contemporary pieces were really good job.
When it comes to improvement and versatility,except for a few like rajasmita, pradeep gurung, sneha G has anyone really shown any sort of so called vast improvement? Then why pick on sanam and mohina all the time?
Our opinion will vary on this. I found the close up ckikni chameli expressions of mohina really good and subtle. My only beef was the not so proper usage of props. But we already established our opinions vary a lot.
While appreciate the master's cirticising sanam, were they sleeping till top 13 happened? What were they doing during the gala rounds? why blame the poor guy for the hype created on the show? its like they raised him to the sky and then stole the stairs below all of a sudden.
Dude, you are totally contradicting yourself here. I respect your views but honestly I'm not talking about a difference of opinion here. I'm talking about PLAIN and simple facts! What's clear and OBVIOUS to see! Having your own opinion is another thing...but you have to give credit where it's due!
Let me address your points one by one.
First of all, the time to discuss WHY people like Urvashi and Piyali are in this competition over maybe other potential dancers has passed. That question serves no purpose to ask at this point. Yes when the season started/ during post audition rounds and stuff...this question was completely valid. In fact, I have discussed and raised this point many times myself. And I completely agree with you with the initial disbelief of people like Urvashi and Piyali getting selected into the competition. But all that is pointless at this stage. At this stage, we can only compare the contestants already selected.
Now, here's where I think you are contradicting yourself. First you say that this season doesn't really have average dancers. And then you give the example of Piyali and Urvashi? And completely disregard Sanam as an OBVIOUSLY average dancer? Hmm...doesn't quite make sense to me...sorry to say. I found Sanam average since the audition rounds only. Since day one. Maybe the audience was drawn to this guy because of the way he was projected. The hype was given to him in the audition rounds only for some reason. 😕 And I remember being confused then and there only. In fact, since you are asking the WHY of certain contestants getting selected...I would ask this for Sanam as well. EVEN during the auditions there were more deserving contestants than Sanam. For example, Sumit...who came for the wild card round...there was another guy also I remember who was much better than Sanam. Again I find it confusing that you do not ask this WHY for Sanam but for everyone else??
And OMG...YESS this season HAS had average dancers from the beginning only. How can you possibly think otherwise? And I don't associate better dancing with being able to do hard stunts/moves. I equate good dancing with PERSONALITY. Some sort of spark that comes from within. The ability to FEEL the music in your body language. Except for a few contestants like Pradeep and Raghav, NONE of the contestants showed this quality during the auditions of this season.
So if we forget about the why of certain contestants being selected...and keep all the contestants on the same page...keep in mind that they're all raw and average to begin with. And their success with the competition is dependent upon their improvement as the season progresses.
Now keeping that in mind...can you honestly say that Sanam or Mohena have improved at all? No they haven't. And YES they both were on the same page as the other contestants to begin with as well. I don't consider them any greater than anyone else. But the thing is...certain contestants DID improve themselves. I don't understand why you can't seem to give Piyali her credit where it's due. I think it's very unfair, to be honest. At THIS point, I think Piyali IS indeed better than Mohena or Sanam. It's because she has actually worked on the areas she was lacking in. Whereas Mohena and Sanam are STILL on the same page. Making the SAME mistakes they have been since the beginning of the competition. How can you disregard that??
The reason I keep "harping" on Sanam and Mohena is because their average-ness continues to bother me.
Honestly, Mohena lacks some major spark. She is so superficial as a dancer. She doesn't go all out at all. Piyali is much more open. I appreciate that. And yes, you can say it's because of Terence's training...and Remo has never been that great in bringing out the best in his contestants anyways...so that's bad luck for Mohena. But we have to compare with what we have right? Piyali shows LAYERS in her performances even if her dancing isn't perfect all the time. She has a better ability to feel the music, in my opinion. She is better able to pick up beats as well. Mohena has missed beats...especially faster ones...MULTIPLE times. This can't be excused for more than one time can it? That's what I mean by her making the SAME mistakes STILL!!!
Regarding the Sanam-Raghav comparison. I honestly don't get how people are calling Raghav repetitive and criticizing him for not being versatile when Sanam is MUCH worse!?! Talk about heights of being unfair. I don't have a problem with your personal choice and preferences of contestants...that's your problem. But I do have a problem with proper credit not being given...and being unfair.
Did you honestly think that Raghav was worse than Sanam in this ballroom round??? Ok, granted that his "Ramayana" act wasn't the greatest...sure, you're absolutely right there. But then again, Sanam hasn't really given even ONE decent performance as yet either! Neither a solo or a duet. Atleast Raghav has a unique style. He has a spark! He can express through his dancing...he is CLEAR and convincing. Sanam is confused...both in body language and expressions. At least Raghav has SOMETHING that makes him stand out! What exactly does Sanam have tell me? Have you really honestly seen Sanam do anything that any other dancer CAN'T do? No, he's so very average. Same with Mohena. Aren't we looking for dancers that STAND out from the rest in this competition?
And I just especially find Sanam's body language SO SO awkward!! Seriously, WHAT does this guy do most of the time? 😕 He's never convincing enough in his dancing.
For example, just look at this cap of his so called "rumba" performance from this week...
Umm...looking at this...I toh can't even take his dancing SERIOUSLY. Just LOOK at the awkwardness...it's SO damn obvious!! He's like almost pushing Mohena away...oh God. Not even TRYING to build chemistry. And seriously, what is with that "I smell something bad" expression of his? SO SO majorly awkward...and not top dance reality show material at all. I am just surprised you are not wondering how THIS got selected into the competition now! 😕 Umm...yeah BAD BAD posture all around! He's not even getting the BASICS right! 👎🏼 So under confident too.
Now let's look at Raghav on the other hand, shall we? Sure, he's not a pro at jiving either obviously. But at least he's got his basics down. He's not all bad. Just look at this avi for example:
Raghav's got character...he's got personality...he's got the BOUNCE required for this style. He is not UNCOMFORTABLE...he's having fun atleast. As I said, he's got the basics down. He's not perfect by any means...but he's MUCH better at his attempt than Sanam is at his attempt. And yet no one seems to be criticizing Sanam for his lack of versatility?? How come? And Sanam has had WAY more chances to correct his mistakes than Raghav has! Talk about being unfair!
About your point with Geeta and Terence criticizing Sanam now...I say FINALLY!!! And yes it looks like they were sleeping until this time. :P lol...but seriously...I guess they were also giving Sanam the benefit of doubt...a chance to improve. But it's high time he was criticized because at THIS point of the competition, such JARRING mistakes aren't acceptable anymore. It's UNFAIR to the other contestants now. Other contestants are TRYING to improve while Sanam is stationary. And this is also because of Remo's constant sad pe chadaying. Seriously, his comments for Sanam in the ballroom episode were laughable. Sanam was "beautiful and fantastic"??? Umm really?? KIS angle se? Remo is being so unfair to Sanam here. It's for his own good if he gets criticized...because until he KNOWS what he needs to improve on, how can he work on it? Remo is just being lazy/egoistic as always. It's what I expect from him anyways. His insecurity always becomes ever more apparent as the competition gets more intense and he (or his contestants) can't match up. Anyone can clearly see how awkward Sanam is as a dancer...and how far he still has to go.
Honestly...coming back to the ballroom episode...on repeat watching of Sneha and Neerav's performance, I would say that these guys were the only pair of the episode that were BANG ON. Yeah they had a little glitch with the spin/hand missing bit...but otherwise they were doing their cha cha cha footwork with such EASE. They were confident and smooth...and they made it look easy. Which counts for a lot I think. Plus, they were PERFORMING full on!! Plus points for that. I have some more avis to prove my point here...😳 (please bear with me)
Just look at the confidence and style these guys have for comparisons. Even their body language, comfort and the way they place their hands and everything! And gotta hand it to Terence's creativity...what was Geeta talking about with the "lack of cha cha cha"...the whole dance was cha cha cha footwork man! I especially love the way these guys do cha cha cha steps in their characters like that superman pose cha cha cha...LOL SO creative! And this bit where Sneha goes on the floor and Neerav picks her up from BEHIND. Sneaky, spontaneous and so cool. And the little story touches in between just enhanced this performance by a whole lot. 👍🏼
Now compare this picture with that of Sanam's:
THAT'S confidence right there. 😎
Anyways...sorry if I got a bit too excited/carried away there...I hope I have made myself a bit more clear here. It's not about your personal preference...or difference of opinions...you don't have to like these performances I like or whatever...that's your choice...but it IS about giving credit and being fair. Sanam IS an average dancer and it's plain and simple and clear for anyone to see. And that's a fact, any untrained eye can also see.
