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In the few months that I have been a contributing member of CB-IF I have noticed the pendulum swing from one end to the other. The moderators at the time I joined were vigilant but not oppressingly so. In general, I felt that the moderators left the forumers alone as long as the rules of the forum were generally followed. It allowed for a camaraderie, enthusiasm and creativity in expressing thoughts and feelings. You wanted to be on the forum and share your
perspective, whatever it may be, as long as it was not hurtful to your fellow postees or directed at the actors. I did not approve of people defining some of the cast members using personal, physical characteristics, but I also did not feel the need to be judgemental.
Then the story took a dive south and some of us, who recognized the trend early on, were vocal in our criticism of the Creative team. At times there was a palpable silence to our posts from some sectors, no sweat. To each his own. At other times "negativity" was clucked-clucked at by forumers who had a diffrent agenda for watching the show. The same postees are now openly declaring the show to be a disaster and now it is okay to do so, so be it!
Lately I have noticed that CB-IF has become a police state. It seems that the moderators are constantly roaming the forum and either rebuking postees for something as genuine as thanking the updater before complete update is written or taking punitive actions by closing the threads deemed "inappropriate". The frequent rebukes and the criteria used to close a thread indiscriminately has led me to write this post.
The rate at which it is happening is alarming. While there is a need to "moderate" the forum to keep unwanted language and topics out, I think, I would like the development team to be the enforcers, but keeping in mind that we all come from different perspectives and we should all be allowed to express. If one person's thread is closed because the topic did not relate to CB, then the next person should be treated to the same enforcement. If one person expresses discomfort at what CB has turned into, it is not necessarily a reason to censure the postee, because each person' s comfort zone is very different.
We are mostly mature adults in this forum. Moderators and development team, please rethink the policing mentality that seems to be coming through in the last few weeks. This is a very active forum and it will stem the creative juices, the forum will be buzzing less with activity and like-minded people will be left behind and make the experience boring! It is not too late!
I am writing this knowing fully well that I will be ostracized for even thinking, let alone writing on this topic and this may be my last post here.
[Definition of a police state: (from on-line M-W dictionary)
a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures.]

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: gardes

In the few months that I have been a contributing member of CB-IF I have noticed the pendulum swing from one end to the other. The moderators at the time I joined were vigilant but not oppressingly so. In general, I felt that the moderators left the forumers alone as long as the rules of the forum were generally followed. It allowed for a camaraderie, enthusiasm and creativity in expressing thoughts and feelings. You wanted to be on the forum and share your

perspective, whatever it may be, as long as it was not hurtful to your fellow postees or directed at the actors. I did not approve of people defining some of the cast members using personal, physical characteristics, but I also did not feel the need to be judgemental.
Then the story took a dive south and some of us, who recognized the trend early on, were vocal in our criticism of the Creative team. At times there was a palpable silence to our posts from some sectors, no sweat. To each his own. At other times "negativity" was clucked-clucked at by forumers who had a diffrent agenda for watching the show. The same postees are now openly declaring the show to be a disaster and now it is okay to do so, so be it!
Lately I have noticed that CB-IF has become a police state. It seems that the moderators are constantly roaming the forum and either rebuking postees for something as genuine as thanking the updater before complete update is written or taking punitive actions by closing the threads deemed "inappropriate". The frequent rebukes and the criteria used to close a thread indiscriminately has led me to write this post.
The rate at which it is happening is alarming. While there is a need to "moderate" the forum to keep unwanted language and topics out, I think, I would like the development team to be the enforcers, but keeping in mind that we all come from different perspectives and we should all be allowed to express. If one person's thread is closed because the topic did not relate to CB, then the next person should be treated to the same enforcement. If one person expresses discomfort at what CB has turned into, it is not necessarily a reason to censure the postee, because each person' s comfort zone is very different.
We are mostly mature adults in this forum. Moderators and development team, please rethink the policing mentality that seems to be coming through in the last few weeks. This is a very active forum and it will stem the creative juices, the forum will be buzzing less with activity and like-minded people will be left behind and make the experience boring! It is not too late!
I am writing this knowing fully well that I will be ostracized for even thinking, let alone writing on this topic and this may be my last post here.
[Definition of a police state: (from on-line M-W dictionary)
a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures.]


thank you gardes

i can never claim to be as articulate

as some of you awesome posters

but yes i do agree with you about this forum being

censored'' yesrerday epi. was so hurtful'' for me 😭

little old put in my two cents . came back later to
check if anyone replied to my ranting
lo & behold it was gone

kudos to you garedes🤗
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Posted: 15 years ago
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gosh!! who is tat disgusting guy in tdy's episode? 😭
rads made abig mistake to slap him....im reli scared nw
Edited by Tilashini - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Grades

well I seem to see a lot more closed posts on the forum They being duplicate posts or on the same thoughts expressed in the threads already opened with different words.
Edited by chalhov - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gardes, I totally agree with you on this, this is an open forum and everyone should be allowed to post their views! , As of lately I see alot of the same.

We can't even discuss the show and post views on it, til updates r done. I respect all the updaters, still members want to discuss the show and scenes after they watch the episode and they're even refrained from that too. Also, I've noticed that if this one member posts something, often times the member is criticized. Everyone is different and they don't have the same views as others. If they post something to the contrary I believe its just their opinion and one should be allowed to post our own views. Not all members see RADEV are mahaan all the charachters have flaws and if one points that out they should not be refuted!

Anyhow, I hardly come and post here now! Im glad I came across ur post and was able to post my views on this as well,glad Im not the only member who feels this way!

Thank you so much!
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gardes,
Very good post and very timely indeed. I too have been watching what is going on in this forum for quite a few days and would like to thank you for writing this up for many of us.

I am appalled mostly at the selective policing that happens in this forum in addition to the attack some members do on others just because the others are not telling the same thing that one wants to hear.
Each one of us know what we write and would be good if they show some maturity required for their age and atleast be civil.

It would be good if people who have the power are aware of the rules themselves to take any action. For example, closing of a thread is done in extreme cases where rules are broken, not left, right and center. There is also something called 'merging' of threads. If the content is same, merge the threads, there is no need to close them.

Yes, this is a CB forum and thing related to CB needs to be written. So, who is going to define what "related to CB" is? For me "related to CB" simply means, the technical aspects of CB(past & present), the cast(past & present & probably future too), crew(past & present), the channel, the makers and the CB forum itself.

There are so many threads totally unrelated to CB are posted, that doesn't get closed bcos it comes from the member who love the show or the leads?

Yes, the forum needs to be organized (topics wise for search-ability and discussion sake) and clean (content wise, for language and personal attacks), but other than that what more?

If rules are being applied then apply the rules to all and why the selective application?

What is considered as duplicate and whats not? Same things discussed in different threads with different subject titles are different and if not, no?

One may say what they think of the past, current or future track and that may include someone dying in the show, so why should a topic get closed? If the rules are broken, punish that person instead of closing the thread. Closing of thread needs to be done at extreme cases when it is difficult to handle.

Each perceives the same show and the same episode in a different way and may dislike something that others like it and may say much before. So, why is it that one gets branded as being negative for saying it early, when all the other does is the same and only a few days later?

Though it is up to each to write what they want, think about how it will come across to someone whom you do not know, is reading it. I am really appalled and disgusted by some of the over analysis that happens, more so, when things are written more than what is shown.

Yesterday, Mishti brought out a point in radev_fan's thread where she jokingly mentioned that Avinash & Rubina were referring to Mrinalini being the lazy person.
I could've added my thoughts in that thread but I think this is good place for me to add it.
I don't care what others have to think about that, but I think Keerti & Sharad, her husband, are Avi & Rubi's very good friends and they will not stoop low to rebuke her on screen character like this, hence they were not referring to her. The anxiousness with which she was trying to remind it to Avi, said to me, they were referring to us the forumers. They always give messages to their fans and they were trying to make sure they say this to particularly us that instead of spending so much time doing the over analysis of an entertainment show, well, get up and do something useful.

Its is easy to be judgmental but not easy to be fair. Power is given to make use of and not misuse of.
There is a reason when a jury selection is done for a court case, they do not select anyone even remotely related to the case. Though CB forum is not that as big or important as a court case, it would be good if people not emotionally attached to this show or the cast, moderate this forum for the good of CB forum and the show.

This is a open forum and everyone who watches, watched and does not and never watched should also have the right to say what they want to say if the rules are adhered to. No one has the right to say, "if you do not like then do not watch it".
Even the makers of the show would not want anyone of you to tell someone not to watch the show for whatever reasons.

As the saying goes "Too much of anything is not good" and it applies here too. By too much of policing, people get offended (that includes people who are at the receiving end and also those who are reading them) and will be driven away from this forum. Only left will be the yay-sayers which will eventually become a boring place.

I am no one to say who or how a forum should be moderated but I have said my views on the said topic in a general way.

Finally, writing about how a forum is running is not an ATTACK on the mods.

At the end of the day, this is a forum of entertainment purpose and nobody's live is at stake and should remain so.

Oh comeon gardes, why should anyone ostracize you when you have not broken any rules of the forum and neither have you attacked anyone, including the development team/moderators and when this is related to the CB forum.
And I know I haven't done it either.

gardes, THANK YOU for writing this, though I was watching the happenings lately I am glad it came from you (for various reasons).


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Posted: 15 years ago
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Gardes, Bee and the other postees, I don't think that I need to add any more , all of you ahve explained it beautifully.
Bee since you have mentioned my name I thought I should mention something.........I did mention about Avinash, Rubina and Mrinalini.....but I did not mean Avi and Rubi the actors, but Dev and Radhika the characters. When I write I usually get mixed up between the names of the characters and actors.......I usually do the same thing in my other posts and people in the forum do point out those mistakes either directly or through PM and for that I am thankful.
So if people thought that I am making fun of Avi and Rubi then I am not, and sorry for giving that impression.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Priya Nair!! I doubt very much that you are, or wish to be cognizant of this!!! Given your reticence in the past, it would surprise me not an iota that this too falls on your thoroughly deaf ears!!!

Folks - this lady is the IF 'administrator', to whom the 'moderators' purportedly report (whatever that means). Given the deluge of complaints against her 'team' she has conveniently opted to go into silent mode - the one time when finding one's 'off' button and pressing it is not just unhelpful but unequivocally unethical!!! All the more shameful since anyone with even a modicum of self-respect and desire for justice would have cleaned house eons ago (although given the detritus in the moderator ranks, I can see that such a task is infinitely worse than Hercules having to clean the Aegean stables of horse manure)!!! Well, be that as it may!

To the subject at hand!

How ironic that this phenomenon of the internet was envisioned as an open form of communication with the stifling of ideas not just anathema but inconceivable! Had the creators only but known that it would be so misused ... falling prey to those who have no notion of its original intent!! But the worst has yet to come! People who have set up these web sites are abjectly clueless and uneducated about the concept of free-speech!! Who, pray tell, has mandated that the tripe dished out as daily bread on Indian TV is beyond reproach???!!!! It absolutely BEGS scathing criticism!! Practically ALL of it!!! Practically ALL of the time!!! To add insult to injury, the monitoring of all and any feedback on these sites is in the stranglehold of people unquestionably ill equipped for the task. This is just not a matter of a total absence of taste - the last time I looked, none had been acknowledeged as a doyen(ne) of art - but stems from the fact that a shocking majority of the 'monitors' either have extremely impoverished educational backgrounds or have only just been weaned off breast-feeding by their mothers - I kid you not!!!! This is INTOLERABLE!!

Which means, that we should not be capitulating with ease, for that just feeds into their objective of snuffing criticism! Don't give in to that! Don't!!! Their rules and regulations are RUBBISH!! They may 'lock' threads, posts, what have you ... even try and run you off with raised warning levels!! What they cannot do, however, is prevent you returning to carry on your crusade on another day ... not now ... not ever! Don't be cowed!! Continue to speak your mind!!

Also consider this: they like to venture to other places to be 'heard' ... and that's where we lie in wait!!! Newton had no idea about the scope of his 'every action having an equal and opposite reaction' law!!! I am THOR with a hammer the size of which ain't been seen before!!

Just as a parting shot: CB is a show with any merit??!!! Seriously??!!! 😆

Edited by SValeCalGal - 15 years ago
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: shanta47


thank you gardes

i can never claim to be as articulate

as some of you awesome posters

but yes i do agree with you about this forum being

censored'' yesrerday epi. was so hurtful'' for me 😭

little old put in my two cents . came back later to
check if anyone replied to my ranting
lo & behold it was gone

kudos to you garedes🤗



Shanta,
Are you saying your post was deleted yesterday?
If so, I am outraged at the action.
If one cannot be fair, then they need to step down. I do not think the owner of this website is aware that this kind of dictatorship is happening here.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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thank you gardes

i can never claim to be as articulate

as some of you awesome posters

but yes i do agree with you about this forum being

censored'' yesrerday epi. was so hurtful'' for me 😭

little old put in my two cents . came back later to
check if anyone replied to my ranting
lo & behold it was gone

kudos to you garedes🤗
Shanta, I do not agree with your statement about lack of articulation..... everyone articulates when expressing their thoughts and you are permitted to express in your style. Were you being offensive? Were you cursing, degrading, any such things? I don't see you as that type of a postee at all. I am appalled that your thread was deleted. Thanks for validating the point of this thread. Unlike you, this thread was based on my observations and not first hand experience and you provided a valid example.

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