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Posted: 15 years ago
#21

Originally posted by: why3

I agree with you about Dadi kicking out Radhika or Birju in Dev's absence. I know the creatives will never show it, but I would love it if they show Dev coming back and articulating this point to Dadi and Shastriji about not taking care of Radhika. Even if Radhika was a widow, does she deserve this treatment? Who is anybody to say what Radhika can wear or not wear. Even if she is a widow, she has a right to wear sindoor and mangalsutra if she so desires. I so desperately wanted her at the end calling police about harrassment at the end of both families and Mahant. All of them would have changed their tune in a minute.
Talking about police, shouldn't the police figure out a truck was involved in an accident by now. That truck was bumping Dev's car from the back. So, there should be dents and bumps in Dev's car indicating that he was hit by a truck and most probably died because of that.

I think now Radhika is now too overwhelmed to call the police but I liked her trying to get to the bottom of things and call the police regarding accident.........and then this part confused me......if the police are still continuing their enquiry then that means that the case has not been closed.......so how can the people decide that Dev is dead..........just on the basis of torn piece of clothing, watch and mobile..........just because the search team said that?!! so next week they might show the police telling them that this incident was not an accident.
The funny part was Vishaka called the police to frame dadima when she was herself running from the police.........the creatives are so inconsistant with the plots that the seriousness of the episodes sometimes gets lost..........Vishaks phone call lead to the ONS melodrama and truth......Radhika not calling the police resulted in this sindoor melodrama.
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Posted: 15 years ago
#22

Originally posted by: misti73

Either they really want to do it or they do not know how to explore that area of emotions
Bee I think the cvs are keeping their options open regarding Shantanu........few months back he had said that he is here initially for 4 months and then depending on situation he might stay for long.........that means either he is here for long but he said that to calm down the audience that he might be the main bad person but he won't stay for long or that if the TRPS are not good he will leave.....for me it is a combination of two but he did not say it openly. Even today in one of those SBS or the other channel things he said something like "he does not like Radhikas sindoor being atken etc....but he enjoys people being in pain"...............now this is again a conflicting statement.....this is all the production houses ploy to confuse the viewers and tokeep them on edge. This entire track was developed with the sole purpose of increasing the TRPS........as for me the creatives are dishonest manipulating people who rather prefer playing with others emtions than to sit down and come up with a robust track.
There are also two directors......one can handle emotions while the other goes for high voltage melodrama.........I think they opted for the second one today.



Mishti,
Are you serious when u say there are 2 directors .. 😆

I do not think there are 2 directors .. everything at the end boils down to the story and screenplay for the episode. If the story/screenplay are lousy the directors job looks lousy. First they should be convinced of what they are writing and directing or trying to extract a performance from the actors when then it will turn out good. I do not see conviction in anything. The part which are so sensitive turned out good today bcos of that being sensitive .. and the rest of the part were lousy bcos they were silly and something they themselves do not believe in.

I understand their tricks of these new channel marketing and I don't care about that. Its just that for us its an extra source of information and we analyze these characters from that source too.

Leaving the are open is exactly what they did with Vishaka.

Now they have such a mind blowing story at hand and they are not doing justice to the emotions again. Going for the gimmicks, silliness, illogical things...

okay forget it .. I am just rambling ...
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Mishti,
Are you serious when u say there are 2 directors .. 😆

I do not think there are 2 directors .. everything at the end boils down to the story and screenplay for the episode. If the story/screenplay are lousy the directors job looks lousy. First they should be convinced of what they are writing and directing or trying to extract a performance from the actors when then it will turn out good. I do not see conviction in anything. The part which are so sensitive turned out good today bcos of that being sensitive .. and the rest of the part were lousy bcos they were silly and something they themselves do not believe in.

I understand their tricks of these new channel marketing and I don't care about that. Its just that for us its an extra source of information and we analyze these characters from that source too.

Leaving the are open is exactly what they did with Vishaka.

Now they have such a mind blowing story at hand and they are not doing justice to the emotions again. Going for the gimmicks, silliness, illogical things...

okay forget it .. I am just rambling ...

Bee for my own piece of mind I have convinced myself that there are two directors......multiple dialogue writers and even more creative people........😆..........thats the only way I can justify the mismatch dalogues.......confusing screenplay and what not......😆
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Bee, both Mrin's and Chikna's expressions were intentionally vague. As these creatives decide day by day what to wrte, they have decided to leave chikna's remorse or no remorse alone. Initially, he was shown to have no interest in lover boy, but was just taking photos of Radhika, staring at her, trying to touch her hair or acting SRK. Then, suddenly they showed that he has enmity with Dev and his family, but admiration and respect for Radhika. They were shown as adversaries who have some sympathy for each other but are on opposite ends. Also, he wants Dev to suffer by taking everything away that is dear to him from him. Suddenly, he was turned evil who could murder his own brother in cold blood which he could have done very easily anytime in last two months. Also, he turned into pshyco again who was stalking Radhika whenever she was alone with Dev. Now, he is after RP title but shows some regret (or not) for Radhika's condition. It is because if they suddenly decide to turn him into Radhika's admirer, he can show remorse to his psycho mother.

These creatives change things at their own convenience. Two weeks ago, Vaishali was telling Radhika Shantanu's story and I am not exactly sure but t sounded as if her husband got the RP title after the grandfather died and chacha's father took over. So, by that logic, Dadi's head should have been shaved as Sr. only got it after the father passed away. But, today they changed that story too to justfy the melodrama happening to Radhika.
I would have preferred Radhika standing firm against Mahant's bigotry by plain logic, pointing out his inhumanity and using her Mrs.RP position. It should have been just sindoor and mangalsutra and no hair ceremony. She should have held Amma's hand and stopped her from wiping her sindoor without other women holding her. afterall, it is PF home and they should not be shown allowng their DIL to be treated so shabbily. After this treatment, I would like Dev to blast his own family strongly and leave home with Radhika to stay separate from them. Afterall, it is not too much to expect on Dev's part that his family will protect Radhika in his absence.



Why3,
Mrinalini's feeling the unexplored for last 1.5 year and I don't see them doing anything about it now. She is totally sidelined and wasn't an important character of the show. But Shantanu is an important character of the show. Similarly Vishaka was important character during RaDev 2nd marriage when she returned from Mumbai and they purposely kept on not revealing what the actual intentions are. They are doing the same.

BTW, about the RP story .. it was really confusing when Vaishali was telling that story and I didn't try to understand too. Before even Vaishali/ was it Dadima asks that question I knew the answer which Mahanth tells lateron. Both Vaishali and Dadi were not the wives of a serving RP during the death of their husbands. If that is the logic then they are correct in what they showed today. Even though these kind of logic only these creatives can think off, like the Achar Sanyitha, Kshamavrat, Punishments and such craps, which I (and most of us) do not believe in.

I don't want to write what I would've wanted to see .. and do not want to tell the reasons too 😆 Wants to keep it a secret.😛

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

creatives change things at their own convenience. Two weeks ago, Vaishali was telling Radhika Shantanu's story and I am not exactly sure but t sounded as if her husband got the RP title after the grandfather died and chacha's father took over. So, by that logic, Dadi's head should have been shaved as Sr. only got it after the father passed away. But, today they changed that story too to justfy the melodrama happening to Radhika.



Why3,

BTW, about the RP story .. it was really confusing when Vaishali was telling that story and I didn't try to understand too. Before even Vaishali/ was it Dadima asks that question I knew the answer which Mahanth tells lateron. Both Vaishali and Dadi were not the wives of a serving RP during the death of their husbands. If that is the logic then they are correct in what they showed today. Even though these kind of logic only these creatives can think off, like the Achar Sanyitha, Kshamavrat, Punishments and such craps, which I (and most of us) do not believe in.

Bee and Angie.....when Vaishali became a devi to Radhika she told this story........that she was admitted to the hospital when she was carrying Chikna....and then she got the news that her father-in-law has died.......then chachoos father took away the RP title and Sr. Purohit had to fight to get it back......they did not say clearly whether dadimas husband gave the tittle to Sr. Purohit before dying or after dying......again left it open..........
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73

I think now Radhika is now too overwhelmed to call the police but I liked her trying to get to the bottom of things and call the police regarding accident.........and then this part confused me......if the police are still continuing their enquiry then that means that the case has not been closed.......so how can the people decide that Dev is dead..........just on the basis of torn piece of clothing, watch and mobile..........just because the search team said that?!! so next week they might show the police telling them that this incident was not an accident.
The funny part was Vishaka called the police to frame dadima when she was herself running from the police.........the creatives are so inconsistant with the plots that the seriousness of the episodes sometimes gets lost..........Vishaks phone call lead to the ONS melodrama and truth......Radhika not calling the police resulted in this sindoor melodrama.

Right now, Radhika has been handed the single brain available in CB land. First of all, nobody searches for just one night in a jungle, find torn sleeve or something like that, intact watch and cellphone and decide that Mr. RP is dead. The inquiry in any country takes several days and if the person is still missing, then they state that there is a strong likelihood that the person may not be alive, they can't continue the search because of the expenses and leave the case open. Then, it is up to the family to use their own expenses to continue the search or move on. Usually, family members would continue for at least some time. Here this family is rich and would probably continue for several years. But, after one night the case is closed and today the police is stll enquring. This way, they can come back in near future and state that Dev was murdered or something like that with lot of "dhan dhana" music.
I can understand the character of Radhika not calling police. It was just my personal wish and I would call it if I see somebody going through the torture that Radhika was going through with Amma and Mahant running the show. Anyway, the good thing about ONS and burning track is that these tracks don't make me mad anymore. I just thnk about the material Misti would have for this episode. Today was a bliss from that POV.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Right now, Radhika has been handed the single brain available in CB land. First of all, nobody searches for just one night in a jungle, find torn sleeve or something like that, intact watch and cellphone and decide that Mr. RP is dead. The inquiry in any country takes several days and if the person is still missing, then they state that there is a strong likelihood that the person may not be alive, they can't continue the search because of the expenses and leave the case open. Then, it is up to the family to use their own expenses to continue the search or move on. Usually, family members would continue for at least some time. Here this family is rich and would probably continue for several years. But, after one night the case is closed and today the police is stll enquring. This way, they can come back in near future and state that Dev was murdered or something like that with lot of "dhan dhana" music.
Yep I am expecting that.....loud music and zooming of camera. 😃😉.the trademark of CB.
I can understand the character of Radhika not calling police. It was just my personal wish and I would call it if I see somebody going through the torture that Radhika was going through with Amma and Mahant running the show. Anyway, the good thing about ONS and burning track is that these tracks don't make me mad anymore. I just thnk about the material Misti would have for this episode. Today was a bliss from that POV.

Good that you do not get worked up that much and I had loads of material to work with today....it began from the first scene where amma was standing in attention outside Radhikas room.😉

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Posted: 15 years ago
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mishti,
yes, thats how much i understood from that episode.
vaishali tells that after they gave away chikna, everything became ok and they got the RP title back. This one also is a hotch-potch story just created during that episode bcos never before they have mentioned that there was a fight of sorts between Dev & Arjun's family.

Chachoo always tells that his father could never become an RP. Even in ydays episode he said something that meant that. He has never said that his father did become RP once and it was again taken away and the blah blah story. If in fact if there was such a thing then how come the relations are so good and vaishali & Dadima never suspect Chachoo's plans? Yes they show Vaishali getting jittery whenever there is a talk abt RP post and the aspirants but that is not how a person/family wud behave towards someone/family who had infact snatched away that post, howmuch ever their relations are normal now and everything forgotten. Arjun, Deepika and Chachu come to PB for Dev's 1st marriage and they haven't gone back to their home. This area is also totally forgotten. It is not that they were living in PB forever.

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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: bee5

mishti,
yes, thats how much i understood from that episode.
vaishali tells that after they gave away chikna, everything became ok and they got the RP title back. This one also is a hotch-potch story just created during that episode bcos never before they have mentioned that there was a fight of sorts between Dev & Arjun's family.

Chachoo always tells that his father could never become an RP. Even in ydays episode he said something that meant that. He has never said that his father did become RP once and it was again taken away and the blah blah story. If in fact if there was such a thing then how come the relations are so good and vaishali & Dadima never suspect Chachoo's plans? Yes they show Vaishali getting jittery whenever there is a talk abt RP post and the aspirants but that is not how a person/family wud behave towards someone/family who had infact snatched away that post, howmuch ever their relations are normal now and everything forgotten. Arjun, Deepika and Chachu come to PB for Dev's 1st marriage and they haven't gone back to their home. This area is also totally forgotten. It is not that they were living in PB forever.

Bee, this is called rewriting of history in CB land. They did that with first marriage where Vishaka suddenly knew about the private conversation between Dev and Radhika. Also,during Dev's agnipariksha, it was revealed that Dev had told the turbaned people about wanting to marry Radhika from the beginning and not having relations with Vishaka. It is another thing that Dadi only came to know about his DG after the engagement and Shastriji as recent as when Vishaka started claiming Dev as her husband.
I haven't seen the initial episodes, so can't say with much authority. But, somebody wrote that it was mentioned in earlier episodes that Dev's dada and chachoo's father were real brothers with chachoo's father being the oldest. However, Dev's dada was considered more able of the two and was given RP title by his father. So, Dev's dada did not snatch it from Chachoo's father, but was the chosen one even though he was youngest (same as Dev). So, there is resentment in chachoo about that as he felt that if his father was RP, then he would have been an RP and so on. But, I guess that history is also changed.
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Posted: 15 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3

Bee, this is called rewriting of history in CB land. They did that with first marriage where Vishaka suddenly knew about the private conversation between Dev and Radhika. Also,during Dev's agnipariksha, it was revealed that Dev had told the turbaned people about wanting to marry Radhika from the beginning and not having relations with Vishaka. It is another thing that Dadi only came to know about his DG after the engagement and Shastriji as recent as when Vishaka started claiming Dev as her husband.


Why3,
I am with you with both the points you raised. Even now it is not clearly shown that Dev wanted to marry Radhika from the beginning to shahstriji. Yes, they did show somethings, but they again are vague and not really clear that Shastriji understood that part.

I haven't seen the initial episodes, so can't say with much authority. But, somebody wrote that it was mentioned in earlier episodes that Dev's dada and chachoo's father were real brothers with chachoo's father being the oldest. However, Dev's dada was considered more able of the two and was given RP title by his father. So, Dev's dada did not snatch it from Chachoo's father, but was the chosen one even though he was youngest (same as Dev). So, there is resentment in chachoo about that as he felt that if his father was RP, then he would have been an RP and so on. But, I guess that history is also changed.

Once I got hold of the online episodes I watch every damn episode that was there .. LOL ... the information you have is right to an extent. But again, even earlier it wasn't made clear that it was bcos Dev's grand-dad was able thats why he was given the RP post. At that time, it was made known to the viewers that Dev's grand-dad was younger and still got the RP post and hence resentment by Chachu, but they never really told a reason. At that time the viewer could take it as that the CVs will reveal the reason later.



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