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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: neerjashingla

Misti first part of your thoughts was fun...

Thankyou.😉

..In Radhika,s case Chanda was right whatever she said about her marriage and waiting for the guy...Only Radhika knows she is married that guy does not know about it......Shanti had practical approach when she was giving her arguments about marriage and Kanha......Mansaram is also worried about Radhika but somewhere in his heart he may also be insecure about Radhika,s future.... How long you can go on waiting for that guy, more over how you will recognize him...
They were all being true to their characters,.........but the creatives have a habit of dumbing down strong positive characters for their twist and thats why I am wary regarding Masaram.

..PFs, attitude was really funny about not going to Rawal because of their poverty or lower cast....
Dev was not bothered about going on conversation , as he was excited about going to Rawal and find about his DG.....
The purohits are all zombies.......its a mental asylum in that house.........I don't blame Dev for living in his dream world. Actually the other two also have developed their own defense mechanism to survive in this madness.......Virath's mother is a drama queen who craves attention so the only way Virath could get attention was by throwing a tantrum..........and thats what he is doing ..........Rohan's mother nods at whatever the badi bahu is saying and does not protest when she knows what her son is about........so Rohan's method of surviving in the house is escaping from it......his only support is Dev and he knows that Dev cannot do anything.....so it nods at badi bahu to maintain peace and then runs and uses the girls to divert attention...........while Dev......he has got no feelings for anyone other than dadaji and daima.......his smiles at dadaji are genuine....he treats daima with respect and takes Rohan as his friend.......but his smiles to others are artificial........and he lives in his dreamworld whenever he has time for himself.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3


This is one track I am looking forward to seeing. Of course it puts Champa and Phuljhari in one house again. But the result is so good where two users are married to each other. In a sense both Mohini and Viraath are that. But Mohini is so irritating that it is not fun to watch her. In fact, Champa would be perfect for Rohan, Mohini and Kabutarni. At least give us some comedy to make up for PF. It would be fun to see these foursome fighting with each other in different combinations.
Oh yes will like that.......Mohini and Champa, Virath shouting and Champa giving blonde replies when she is not really blonde.........most probably Rohan will pitch a tent outside the house and prefer to live there. Atleast Dev and Radhika might be left free.
I think they are keeping Padma one dimensional for now (without brains) as her brains implies that chunnu munnu can not move the story forward. She will be Vaishali of this show. Once Kabutarni loses the game by realizing that she got a Pataka when she brought Phuljhari in the house, she may brainwash Padma. So Padma would become grey at that time. See they don't show any interaction of her with Dev. She frowns a tiny bit when Viraath calls Dev a servant but doesn't protest. Of course she didn't protest when her MIL fixed a relation in low caste for her DIL and then insulted the future DIL's family.
But I want amma to tell Padma that badi bahu did not bring the right DIL and it is all badi bahus fault ....and tell the badi bahu that Padma does not trust her and is questioning her judgement......😉

On the other hand, Amma's brains may be coming back. Her reaction yesterday was shown to be very serious (unlike the last two weeks). Also once Dev comes back all sad, she may be suspecting something.

Yes maybe she might be woken up from her dream world.😉

But if her brains are coming back, what was the reason to take them back as her lacking of brains did not contribute anything. They could have easily shown her reasoning that she was a servant and had to protect Dev. Another question is Dev. Apparently, he gets new clothes and got good education etc. So did Dadaji make provisions for him from the trust. Why did Kabutarni allow his studies and other perks? They could have explained that at least.
Yes the POV that the re still not giving......some juvenille games that they are playing.

Yup. They did it to Shastriji. If he explains to Radhika that he is thinking from a practical point of view where it was easy for him to reject that other proposal. But here Kabutarni is powerful (at least in CB world) and also it is a rich family. So he is considering that vs. that boy never returning back. Afterall, his faith is weaker than Kanha. But if he continues to keep her in dark or becomes dumb to make Shanti important, then it would be terrible. I want to see a heart to heart between Phuljhari and Mansaram and in the end he should give the choice to Radhika.

That is why I am a bit wary,..........they killed shastrijis characterisation to give amma and vishaka the upper hand and they might do it here to give chanda and shanti the upperhand....yes thats will be nice if he is giving a choice to Radhika but will she be able to choose anything in this confusion.....or will that be a jolt to her to bring her to reality and do some thinking.

Geeta is wasted on these creatives. They can not think of an intelligent script. The problem is that when they give wrong messages. Attempted murder is a crime and yet Kabutarni would be forgiven easily.
Yes I can see that happening......

Ok now some serious stuff.......this chanda-Rohan possibilty might just be a red herring. I think that they might be upto something else.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: misti73



But I want amma to tell Padma that badi bahu did not bring the right DIL and it is all badi bahus fault ....and tell the badi bahu that Padma does not trust her and is questioning her judgement......😉

That would be fun and a big comedy. But will chunnu munnu ever think like that when all they care about one dimensional characters and unnecessary melodrama.

Yes maybe she might be woken up from her dream world.😉

I think they are waking her up as she was not present in today's conversation when Kabutarni was going on about her opinion of lower classes. Also it is interesting that when she shows her true colors as she did to Mansaram, nobody is around. That's how they are justifying PF's amnesia and blindness. On the other hand her absence is so that she misses Dev's excitement at going to Rawal and can not figure out the reason for his misery.

That is why I am a bit wary,..........they killed shastrijis characterisation to give amma and vishaka the upper hand and they might do it here to give chanda and shanti the upperhand....yes thats will be nice if he is giving a choice to Radhika but will she be able to choose anything in this confusion.....or will that be a jolt to her to bring her to reality and do some thinking.

I just finished watching the episode and today Mansaram's confusion is understandable. He loves Radhika a lot and has to choose between something concrete or something that happened long time back and from which Radhika hasn't moved on. But again depends on what they show in the future. Now that they played that shlok and Shanti has challenged Kanha, he would be playing a full-fledged role in this drama and we would see a lot of "Govind" music and horsies, phools etc.


Ok now some serious stuff.......this chanda-Rohan possibilty might just be a red herring. I think that they might be upto something else.


That could be true. These chunnu munnu don't have guts to show inter-caste marriage. They coped out in case of Radhika in CB1 by making her a Brahmin and giving those stupid dialogues to Dadi where she asked Amma to bless Radhika as being a Brahmin removed those objections from Amma. Then everyone was showing beaming at a reluctant Amma's blessing.

So we the audience are unnecessarily happy at this and in reality Rohan may not marry Chanda at all. In fact, judging by his behavior which is based on Vishaka I have a feeling that he would take a look at Radhika and want to marry her. So he would become Dev's rival in no time.


Well, this serial is meant to be taken episode at a time. No expectations of a good long term story because it is not going to come true anyway.

But talking about today's episode, it was not too bad. Liked the picturization of song on Radhika. That mixing of past and her sadness along with the new stanzas was very good. The last couple of paragraphs are going to be repeated now as they apply to Dev as well. Also will be repeated when Radhika realizes the truth about Dev and is helpless to tell him.

Liked Dev today (now ignoring his interaction with PF as it is too artificial). But his kiddie excitement went with his infatuation with Phuljhari. He will be serious next week but for now his innocence was endearing. Phuljhari is someone on whom he feels exclusive right and he is impatient to get her. Both Phuljhari and Bumbum are living in dream world, but Phuljhari's is more real due to her circumstances and what happened in the childhood. Bumbum will be more devastated when he finds out about Phuljhari. So far Radhika is the mature one in the relationship. But if the script remains constant, that would change once Dev's dreams are shattered.

Everyone was useless especially Padma. I don't understand these creatives. Why are they ruining Padma's character when it was so good in the beginning. At least show her having some resentment about Kabutarni or having some doubts about Kabutarni's motives for being so excited about Rohan when in the childhood she could care less about him.

Chanda was as usual one dimensional. They would use her either as comic relief or counter Shanti's efforts as both are on opposite sides due to their own reasons. Lets see how they use her and Rohan in all this.

They have enough characters to show a logical story and so there is no need to copy those tricks of mistaken identities or ghungats. Ghungats don't make sense anyway as nobody is using pallu in either family. So suddenly using ghungat for the wedding would look ridiculous. But then they did it in CB1 where one bahu was wearing sphagetti straps and other was being married in a veil.

Finally, Dev is one hard working person. Besides working at Mutts, arranging for Holi festival, chasing Radhika and waiting for her at ghats he had enough time to sculpt her.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Misti interesting thoughts.

So Mansa has been bullied and made to keep quiet by two women one Kabutarni who did not give him any choice and another Ashanti devi with Kanhas name and she also did not tell Radhika the truth so now CMs twist and viewers twist with whats going to come who is going to swap whom bride or groom😆😆
Now the dilemma of Mansa and then how will Radhika trust him when she knows the truth or will he blurt out the truth or become like Yudhister and tell half truth after the shagun arrives and Chenu who is a well wisher of Behna what will he do'

If Chirkut is not the youngest grandson then how will the truth come out on his birthday lets W&W meanwhile all the marriage drama
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Musti - Ashanti's greedy eyes grew like saucers.. All she cares about is her daughter. She does not have an iota of feeling for Radhika. She's in lala land if she thinks she can get away with marrying her daughter off to Rohan, when Maheshwari wants Radhika as the CB.. Maheshwari in another fit of rage will strangle Ashanti. Can't stand her. No apologies!

Dev is on cloud nine now, but his bubble is going to burst when he realizes Radhika is the intended bride for Rohan. Maybe he'll drop the Thali.

Don't want two sisters marrying into the same family and living under the same roof again .. Radhika sacrificing and protecting selfish chanda, repeat of season 1.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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thanks for a wonderful update, misti ... loved your analysis of each of the characters in yesterday's post

liked today's episode
- actress playing shantha was excellent ... she is thinking very practically and selfishly abt her daughter and family ... dont think she has any intentions of switching brides ... just thinks that she can hit a gold mine by getting rads married to a rich guy - her daughter will get a good match by association
- understand how mansaram felt ...he was subdued ... unsure of what to do - wants to support Rad's wishes but is also questioning his judgement
- loved rads song near the ghat ... rubina was fabulous here ... she is looking so lovely and sweet, i wont be surprised if they have rohan falling for her I really hope she wins some award this time around
- bumbum only likes dadaji and daima ... he also has some fondness for rohan ... but for the rest he gives his fake smile ... wish they would show more of what happened to make him the way he is ... liked him today ...

I do hope they go about things logically and slowly ... but it would be strange if mansaram kept quiet and did not tell rads whom the proposal came for

i thought they would do it differently ... that there would be no marriage but BB claiming that rohan was the person rads was married to ... and bringing her in as CB on that basis. They can do that if BB keeps the circumstances of how the marriage happened from daima and padma - since rohan has always had the habit of giving false names and playing with girls, people could believe BB ...


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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: why3


I think they are waking her up as she was not present in today's conversation when Kabutarni was going on about her opinion of lower classes. Also it is interesting that when she shows her true colors as she did to Mansaram, nobody is around. That's how they are justifying PF's amnesia and blindness. On the other hand her absence is so that she misses Dev's excitement at going to Rawal and can not figure out the reason for his misery.
Yes amma was made absent for the next few weeks of story.😉

I just finished watching the episode and today Mansaram's confusion is understandable. He loves Radhika a lot and has to choose between something concrete or something that happened long time back and from which Radhika hasn't moved on. But again depends on what they show in the future. Now that they played that shlok and Shanti has challenged Kanha, he would be playing a full-fledged role in this drama and we would see a lot of "Govind" music and horsies, phools etc.
Since Kanha uses members of the animal kingdom for his work here maybe they will use a doggie this time. 😍

These chunnu munnu don't have guts to show inter-caste marriage. They coped out in case of Radhika in CB1 by making her a Brahmin and giving those stupid dialogues to Dadi where she asked Amma to bless Radhika as being a Brahmin removed those objections from Amma. Then everyone was showing beaming at a reluctant Amma's blessing.

So we the audience are unnecessarily happy at this and in reality Rohan may not marry Chanda at all. In fact, judging by his behavior which is based on Vishaka I have a feeling that he would take a look at Radhika and want to marry her. So he would become Dev's rival in no time.

Yes and Kabutarni behaved exactly in the same way way with Mansaram as she did with her FIL 12 years back........she was sweet to her FIL and was asking him to consider Viraath but when he said no, she shouted at him and pushed him down the stairs and took away his choice of decision making from and made him physically incapable.........she did the same with Mansaram .........she first sweetly told him that she wants Radhika as the CB and when he refused she again took away the choice from him.......now will someone else be declared sick? Her FIL took his decision on the basis of what will be happening in the future while Mansaram is taking a decision on the basis of what happened in the past............Now on the basis of the first decision she declared herself the caretaker PB but she is also training the real RP.........Now what is she going to declare on the basis of the second decision? And how is that decision actually going to help Dev in the long run without Kabutarni realizing about it?


Well, this serial is meant to be taken episode at a time. No expectations of a good long term story because it is not going to come true anyway.

Yes its better to take it one day at a time.

But talking about today's episode, it was not too bad. Liked the picturization of song on Radhika. That mixing of past and her sadness along with the new stanzas was very good. The last couple of paragraphs are going to be repeated now as they apply to Dev as well. Also will be repeated when Radhika realizes the truth about Dev and is helpless to tell him.
It was good that they did not give Rubina any dialogues and just left it to her. They messed up in the temple scene by giving her the gulal dialogue.........its better if they just leave it to her......she is good at this and her eyes speak.

Liked Dev today (now ignoring his interaction with PF as it is too artificial). But his kiddie excitement went with his infatuation with Phuljhari. He will be serious next week but for now his innocence was endearing. Phuljhari is someone on whom he feels exclusive right and he is impatient to get her. Both Phuljhari and Bumbum are living in dream world, but Phuljhari's is more real due to her circumstances and what happened in the childhood. Bumbum will be more devastated when he finds out about Phuljhari. So far Radhika is the mature one in the relationship. But if the script remains constant, that would change once Dev's dreams are shattered.
Yes........both are in their dream world........Dev might or might not change in his interactions with others.......he can either become serious or he can continue smiling falsely while his heart is breaking apart. But in that case even if others do not pick up amma should.......dadaji might but he is restricted. It will be interesting if Rohan picks up the signs.

Everyone was useless especially Padma. I don't understand these creatives. Why are they ruining Padma's character when it was so good in the beginning. At least show her having some resentment about Kabutarni or having some doubts about Kabutarni's motives for being so excited about Rohan when in the childhood she could care less about him.
They are ruining Padma for kabutarni......when it would have been much more interesting if they had shown that Padma has her own agenda and she is just waiting.


They have enough characters to show a logical story and so there is no need to copy those tricks of mistaken identities or ghungats. Ghungats don't make sense anyway as nobody is using pallu in either family. So suddenly using ghungat for the wedding would look ridiculous. But then they did it in CB1 where one bahu was wearing sphagetti straps and other was being married in a veil.
Ghunghat and sehera will both be repeatations........lets see whether they are used.

Finally, Dev is one hard working person. Besides working at Mutts, arranging for Holi festival, chasing Radhika and waiting for her at ghats he had enough time to sculpt her.
Yes.😉😆
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: chalhov

Misti interesting thoughts.

So Mansa has been bullied and made to keep quiet by two women one Kabutarni who did not give him any choice and another Ashanti devi with Kanhas name and she also did not tell Radhika the truth so now CMs twist and viewers twist with whats going to come who is going to swap whom bride or groom😆😆
Now the dilemma of Mansa and then how will Radhika trust him when she knows the truth or will he blurt out the truth or become like Yudhister and tell half truth after the shagun arrives and Chenu who is a well wisher of Behna what will he do'

If Chirkut is not the youngest grandson then how will the truth come out on his birthday lets W&W meanwhile all the marriage drama


Thankyou Chalhov. I hope that Mansa was only thinking and in his confusion kept quiet.......I hope that he has a chat with Radhika, otherwise it will be terrible for her that he is not giving her the choice and kept quiet when the others are taking her down the wrong path and she does not know about it. Yeh Chenu is there........he loves money but he also has a soft spot for Radhika. Wonder if he gets to know what the mother is doing what will he choose?

Lets see what they are upto.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: ChinadollTwo

Musti - Ashanti's greedy eyes grew like saucers.. All she cares about is her daughter. She does not have an iota of feeling for Radhika. She's in lala land if she thinks she can get away with marrying her daughter off to Rohan, when Maheshwari wants Radhika as the CB.. Maheshwari in another fit of rage will strangle Ashanti. Can't stand her. No apologies!

Dev is on cloud nine now, but his bubble is going to burst when he realizes Radhika is the intended bride for Rohan. Maybe he'll drop the Thali.

Don't want two sisters marrying into the same family and living under the same roof again .. Radhika sacrificing and protecting selfish chanda, repeat of season 1.


Ashanti treats Radhika as someone she has to deal with for her husband.....for her the birth children always came first............she is quite open about it. She might have some feeling for Radhika but she will choose her childrens future over Radhika.....she will chose her families happiness over Radhika. Since she comes from a poor background and has no education she does not have the sophistication to hide her feelings. She is also a practical person while Mansaram is the emotional one.

As for Chanda-Rohan lets see whether thats a red herring or not..........
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: rajsri

thanks for a wonderful update, misti ... loved your analysis of each of the characters in yesterday's post
You are welcome Rajsri.
liked today's episode
- actress playing shantha was excellent ... she is thinking very practically and selfishly abt her daughter and family ... dont think she has any intentions of switching brides ... just thinks that she can hit a gold mine by getting rads married to a rich guy - her daughter will get a good match by association....that actress is fabulous...she is always spot on regarding dialogue delivery and mannerisms.........they are throwing hints regarding Rohan-Chanda and they know that maye thats what the audience is expecting......but it might be a red herring.
- understand how mansaram felt ...he was subdued ... unsure of what to do - wants to support Rad's wishes but is also questioning his judgement-Hope they show Mansaram giving Rads the choice......the creatives can dumb down characters to glorify others............I am a bit wary of that.
- loved rads song near the ghat ... rubina was fabulous here ... she is looking so lovely and sweet, i wont be surprised if they have rohan falling for her I really hope she wins some award this time around-It was good that they did not give Rbina any dialogues here and left it on her.....she is good at this and her eyes speak.......they messed up the temple scene by giving her the gulal dialogue. Me too for the awards....but there is long way to go for that.
- bumbum only likes dadaji and daima ... he also has some fondness for rohan ... but for the rest he gives his fake smile ... wish they would show more of what happened to make him the way he is ... liked him today ...

One monologue from daima will give some indication......he has been hurt pretty badly and he thinks that his feelings are of no use, so why show it? I hope they let him explain that to the audience. They can do that after he gets to know about Radhika.......they can show him sitting by himself talking to the statue that he hoped that she will understand his feelings and he could just be himself with her but now that has also been taken from him and he has to continue smiling because that is the only way he knows how to deal with hurt and pain. Radhika also has pain in her life but she shows it because she knows that her father values her feelings. Hopefully they will let that be ......

I do hope they go about things logically and slowly ... but it would be strange if mansaram kept quiet and did not tell rads whom the proposal came for
Yes,..........

i thought they would do it differently ... that there would be no marriage but BB claiming that rohan was the person rads was married to ... and bringing her in as CB on that basis. They can do that if BB keeps the circumstances of how the marriage happened from daima and padma - since rohan has always had the habit of giving false names and playing with girls, people could believe BB ...
.Radhika coming in as the real Rohans wife will be a repeatation of CB1.......so that will officially make CB2 a copy of CB1. It will also make the situation very messy.

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