Pallavi's look as Queen Dharma - Page 2

Originally posted by: TruthFinder

Well I knew that you did not want to influence people intentionally, but venting your anger, but that is coming out strongly in the options.

Again, if you wanted supported for views and if you are not sure of the outcome poll is not the right choice as the intention of the poll is only to find what the other person thinks.

You should have probably gone for singature campaigns or something like that to get the other viewers support and share it with the concerned group (CVs may be in this case).

I liked her costume - wont say that she was looking great, but definitely it was not that bad as some of you described. Definitely no match to your profile pic. I dont know who this actor is, but I like the confidence in her eyes.

BTW, your comparison to bullock (cart) was too much. I found it bit offesive.

Originally posted by: Kaana

That's kinda odissi crown I thought. Ofcourse odissi crown would be done with finer taste.
I think the CVs are voting in this post in favour of D's nextgen avatar.

Originally posted by: MaddyO

<font size="2"><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0000FF">I guess I am ok with giving strong opinions. The way I think if viewers did not care then it is problem, not when they care! 😆

I don't know about all this signature campaign or polls thing. I just felt strongly that I did not like Dharma's look so wondered how many others also did not.

It is ok if others have liked her look, even if 99 people like her look and I am the 100th who doesn't I will still stand by what I think. Her look is just not fitting Queen Dharma persona. Dharma as we know is classy elegant reticent and certainly not the kind who will wear every piece of jewelry she owns! It is just not understated classy enough.

We can see lot of thought has gone into creating looks for Helena, Charu, Noor, Shubhrasi even Niharika. We expect same for Dharma. How can Queen Dharma be so garishly dressed? She should be the classiest not look like heroine of Mythological!

As it is they are creating her too snow white, why CVs don't get that gray characters are far more interesting? I won't mind if Dharma throws a royal tantrum 😆 Will make her real, not perfect all the thime.

My intention with the comment was not to offend anybody. You probably don't know but there is a festival "Bailpola" in which pooja is done of bullocks, it is symbolic thank you for the way they are so useful to farmers. Bullocks are decked in finery that day, even wear long neckwears. My cousins my friends if someone is wearing something bit over the top we jokingly casually say it looks like that. So the comment was made in that jest. If you can see any photos of horses/bullocks dressed like that you might realize why I made the comment. The long long necklace Dharma was wearing was in no way fine or classy but crass.


PS : the profile pic one is Paridhi Sharma the absolutely gorgeous Jodha of JodhaAkbar. Rajat Tokas was Akbar and Paridhi Jodha and they were brilliant just rocked. The first 150-200 epis were pure magic, you have to see their chemistry to believe it. Viewers were crazy about them but it so happened that JA CVs fell in love with their vamps! So destroyed it with obsessive compulsive negativity.

A lot of CAS forum members used to watch JA and they have seen how JA just sunk after leap and with negativity. Believe me I am not exaggerating when I say that I got actual headache nausea after watching and then decided enough. So I guess I understand when JA viewers get bit alarmed that CAS should no go the same way & if we see something want to create bit of noise about it. It is because we all love CAS and want it to remain positive.

JA forum members were vehemently against 18+ years leap, CVs did not listen & JA sunk. So all our views diverse and sometimes made in venting should be good feedback for CAS CVs if they want to read that is.

We cannot do anything but just write. As for Queen Dharma look, I haven't liked but I am not going to lose sleep over it! It is Pallavi who is wearing that costume not me! 😉😆
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Originally posted by: MaddyO

I guess I am ok with giving strong opinions. The way I think if viewers did not care then it is problem, not when they care! 😆

I don't know about all this signature campaign or polls thing. I just felt strongly that I did not like Dharma's look so wondered how many others also did not.

It is ok if others have liked her look, even if 99 people like her look and I am the 100th who doesn't I will still stand by what I think. Her look is just not fitting Queen Dharma persona. Dharma as we know is classy elegant reticent and certainly not the kind who will wear every piece of jewelry she owns! It is just not understated classy enough.

We can see lot of thought has gone into creating looks for Helena, Charu, Noor, Shubhrasi even Niharika. We expect same for Dharma. How can Queen Dharma be so garishly dressed? She should be the classiest not look like heroine of Mythological!

As it is they are creating her too snow white, why CVs don't get that gray characters are far more interesting? I won't mind if Dharma throws a royal tantrum 😆 Will make her real, not perfect all the thime.

My intention with the comment was not to offend anybody. You probably don't know but there is a festival "Bailpola" in which pooja is done of bullocks, it is symbolic thank you for the way they are so useful to farmers. Bullocks are decked in finery that day, even wear long neckwears. My cousins my friends if someone is wearing something bit over the top we jokingly casually say it looks like that. So the comment was made in that jest. If you can see any photos of horses/bullocks dressed like that you might realize why I made the comment. The long long necklace Dharma was wearing was in no way fine or classy but crass.


PS : the profile pic one is Paridhi Sharma the absolutely gorgeous Jodha of JodhaAkbar. Rajat Tokas was Akbar and Paridhi Jodha and they were brilliant just rocked. The first 150-200 epis were pure magic, you have to see their chemistry to believe it. Viewers were crazy about them but it so happened that JA CVs fell in love with their vamps! So destroyed it with obsessive compulsive negativity.

A lot of CAS forum members used to watch JA and they have seen how JA just sunk after leap and with negativity. Believe me I am not exaggerating when I say that I got actual headache nausea after watching and then decided enough. So I guess I understand when JA viewers get bit alarmed that CAS should no go the same way & if we see something want to create bit of noise about it. It is because we all love CAS and want it to remain positive.

JA forum members were vehemently against 18+ years leap, CVs did not listen & JA sunk. So all our views diverse and sometimes made in venting should be good feedback for CAS CVs if they want to read that is.

We cannot do anything but just write. As for Queen Dharma look, I haven't liked but I am not going to lose sleep over it! It is Pallavi who is wearing that costume not me! 😉😆

Originally posted by: Kaana

@Truthfinder, kudos to you first. It is nice to see someone straightforward and has the nerve and will to say what is in one's heart. And also one who does healthy discussion and not argue for the sake of arguing. I have known Medha for sometime and how her style of writing. She is also one who openly shares her views and call a spade a spade. So it's all the more interesting the two of you discussing but well within limits respecting each others views.
And i saw your views on thevother thread regd GG as elder Ashoka. you had made great pertinent piints there. I agree to your view that even if the best talent plays elder A, chances are still there for him to fall short. It's bcos we get more attached in the case of kids and the elder filling that is a challenge. If an elder cast is still able to win the viewers hearts it is indeed a big kudos to such a talent.
However, Dharma's queen avatar is scary to me also. Instead of decking up her with so much jewelry she could be dorned in a refined manner as Medha said is my opinion too. Regd bullock cart comment, I could relate to Medha's comment as even down south during Maattu pongal they deck up cows like this. The quality of the jewelry was such that that it is similar to those artificial such getup used for the cows on those function days. The big long ornament - it didn't look like a solid ornament but some piece painted gold. I think that is why Medha had made that comment with no offense meant to the bullocks or the CVs as well.
But as you rightly said, each entitle to their views and as long as each respect each other's view we can always have healthy discussions and fun in this forum:-)
Nice knowing a person like you :-)
And sorry to have barged in your convo with Medha.

Originally posted by: TruthFinder

Nice to know you too, Kanna.

Not an issue Kanna. It is a public forum. You have every right to barge in as we are not talking any personal things. The forum is for everyone to participate and moreover you are only sharing your views, so you dont have to feel sorry for that.

Thanks for sharing your observations about me. I barge in or share my views only on two conditions - 1. One if my view is different from the other person (it is not necessary that I am always right) 2. If I strongly believe that the person is not head strong/egoistic, will analyse my views and respond with an explanation as to why s/he thought otherwise which would give an opportunity for me to re-look at my view. If I feel that any of these two critieria will not be met by the person, I do not post my view. Not meeting these criteria clearly means that we are initialing a fight unknowingly. And I never want to do that as I wont get any benefit out of it. I have been watching Medha for some time and I have not seen her fighting with anyone, which is why I shared my view, eventhough the entire thread is favor of changing the attire.

Again with regards to the ornaments/attire am sure you guys must be experts in that area. Since you guys have been watching various historicals, you should be knowing what is best for her. But I still standby my stance on her attire/ornaments. In my opinion, this natural beauty doesnt need any extra fittings to lift her up.

Originally posted by: shyam09

Well when you compare her old looks to her new looks, there is so much lacking.

Just as an example - here is what Pallavi looked like as Rukmini in StarBharat:

https://i.imgur.com/eMM7Kae.jpg

My biggest peeves about the new look is a) her changed dasi look and b) her weird queen avatar. Both, in my opinion take away from Pallavi's features.

To address the first peeve:

This costume portrays simplicity. We don't see any curled hairs, there is no volume in her hair, and it might just be me but her eye makeup is a tad bit lighter in shade.

In regards to Pallavi's facial features, there are two things that really stand out and need to be emphasized- her eyes (an obvious duh!) and her cheek bones (and thus her cheeks). Thus, something suitable for Pallavi is a dark shade to bring out her eyes, and some makeup to outline the area around her cheeks to give it a more curvy, smooth shape.

Her recent hairstyles are straight, with all the hair brought over to one side, sort of like the famous BRC Draupadi look. There isn't any volume and what this does is it shows more of her forehead. Now, with the forehead, it should have depth and shadows near the hairline so as to give off the appearance of a smaller forehead. Pallavi doesn't have a huge forehead to begin with, but too much forehead doesn't generally look good.

I think the solution is fairly simple - bring back the voluminous curls! The voluminous curls are something that shimmer and shine just like Pallavi's eyes, and they gently kiss her soft cheeks as they bounce around. These types of curls are something that I think go with Pallavi's face.

Now to address the topic at hand - Queen Dharma's look:

I think we all can agree that both these images give us an entire view of Queen Dharma's look (*as imagined by Ashok*)

Let's look at these two pictures. First off, there is a paradox. The jewelry in her hair does make her forehead smaller, but in this case, it doesn't appeal to her looks. I think if we lower that middle part a little bit more or change it to something like this:

, it would shrink her forehead and give a more uniform appearance. If we look at that second image of Pallavi, look closely at the parts where the lowest gold chain touches that center piece. It shows some hair so we are essentially getting a /\V/\ like shape (with the V being lower, giving us some view of the hair, which doesn't look as good (as if those hairs were covered).

Her makeup doesn't look as refined as when it was much more simpler. Those cheeks were given too much blush. I'm glad they kept their eye design, it's one of my most favorite parts about Pallavi's style (those two lines that come off from the eyeliner).

Moving to her hair, those few strands just doesn't suit a queen. I say this in the nicest way, but having these curled strands are not the way to go. I personally think that her straight hair dasi hairstyle is far better. But I think I understand why they did that (to show that everyone about Dharma has changed. She is now a queen in looks too).

While I loved her old style, I wasn't a huge fan of that puffiness in the middle-back of her head.

I think something like this hairstyle would be great to try (and I'd love to see the designer board photo shoot to see what hairstyles they tried).

.. The curvy length, the braid in the front with some gold jewelry. We don't need that jumar thingy (or whatever that center dangly piece is called).

On to her other jewelry, it looks like she is given significantly more jewelry than the other queens. And those wrist braces - ugh. Doesn't look as good. Also, I don't know who suggested it, but that ball thingy on top of her crown ... seriously? You couldn't have just snapped that off. It serves no purpose at all in making Dharma look like a queen other than the fact that it's a ball of gold.

DISCLAIMER: Yeah, if this doesn't convince you that I'm a guy, I don't know what will 😆😆. Also, I think Kaana said it, but I think I understand why this might not be Dharma's form. Ashok does seem to throw on a ton of gold on his mom, but my bone is with the CVs, I refuse to give them credit that they willingly made Dharma appear like this because Ashok "imagined" her to be like this - requires too much out of box thinking.

Originally posted by: shyam09

Well when you compare her old looks to her new looks, there is so much lacking.

Just as an example - here is what Pallavi looked like as Rukmini in StarBharat:

https://i.imgur.com/eMM7Kae.jpg

My biggest peeves about the new look is a) her changed dasi look and b) her weird queen avatar. Both, in my opinion take away from Pallavi's features.

To address the first peeve:

This costume portrays simplicity. We don't see any curled hairs, there is no volume in her hair, and it might just be me but her eye makeup is a tad bit lighter in shade.

In regards to Pallavi's facial features, there are two things that really stand out and need to be emphasized- her eyes (an obvious duh!) and her cheek bones (and thus her cheeks). Thus, something suitable for Pallavi is a dark shade to bring out her eyes, and some makeup to outline the area around her cheeks to give it a more curvy, smooth shape.

Her recent hairstyles are straight, with all the hair brought over to one side, sort of like the famous BRC Draupadi look. There isn't any volume and what this does is it shows more of her forehead. Now, with the forehead, it should have depth and shadows near the hairline so as to give off the appearance of a smaller forehead. Pallavi doesn't have a huge forehead to begin with, but too much forehead doesn't generally look good.

I think the solution is fairly simple - bring back the voluminous curls! Thevoluminous curls are something that shimmer and shine just like Pallavi's eyes, and they gently kiss her soft cheeks as they bounce around. These types of curls are something that I think go with Pallavi's face.

Now to address the topic at hand - Queen Dharma's look:

I think we all can agree that both these images give us an entire view of Queen Dharma's look (*as imagined by Ashok*)

Let's look at these two pictures. First off, there is a paradox. The jewelry in her hair does make her forehead smaller, but in this case, it doesn't appeal to her looks. I think if we lower that middle part a little bit more or change it to something like this:

, it would shrink her forehead and give a more uniform appearance. If we look at that second image of Pallavi, look closely at the parts where the lowest gold chain touches that center piece. It shows some hair so we are essentially getting a /\V/\ like shape (with the V being lower, giving us some view of the hair, which doesn't look as good (as if those hairs were covered).

Her makeup doesn't look as refined as when it was much more simpler. Those cheeks were given too much blush. I'm glad they kept their eye design, it's one of my most favorite parts about Pallavi's style (those two lines that come off from the eyeliner).

Moving to her hair, those few strands just doesn't suit a queen. I say this in the nicest way, but having these curled strands are not the way to go. I personally think that her straight hair dasi hairstyle is far better. But I think I understand why they did that (to show that everyone about Dharma has changed. She is now a queen in looks too).

While I loved her old style, I wasn't a huge fan of that puffiness in the middle-back of her head.

I think something like this hairstyle would be great to try (and I'd love to see the designer board photo shoot to see what hairstyles they tried).

.. The curvy length, the braid in the front with some gold jewelry. We don't need that jumar thingy (or whatever that center dangly piece is called).

On to her other jewelry, it looks like she is given significantly more jewelry than the other queens. And those wrist braces - ugh. Doesn't look as good. Also, I don't know who suggested it, but that ball thingy on top of her crown ... seriously? You couldn't have just snapped that off. It serves no purpose at all in making Dharma look like a queen other than the fact that it's a ball of gold.

DISCLAIMER: Yeah, if this doesn't convince you that I'm a guy, I don't know what will😆😆. Also, I think Kaana said it, but I think I understand why this might not be Dharma's form. Ashok does seem to throw on a ton of gold on his mom, but my bone is with the CVs, I refuse to give them credit that they willingly made Dharma appear like this because Ashok "imagined" her to be like this - requires too much out of box thinking.