Similar situation-handling difference

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Posted: 14 years ago
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In this serial almost two situations are running similarly and the people handling it are different and doing it their own way. Lets start with Sharma family. Pratap who listened to his wife's words got completely distracted (bhatakgaya) from his immediate family his mom,brother & his family. But what did NT dadi do she called him, made his favorite dish and spoke with him so sweetly,gently and gave him the lesson which is right. And what happened after that, it is working slowly and he is realizing his mistakes and taking the steps towards meniding his relations. But Sood's handling of situation. Viren who because of no fault of his was sent to hostel at a tender age and when he returns just for revenge, he too is bhatkgaya aatma. And he did such a grave mistake of stalking his own innocent wife to get to his brother and everyone got to know about it. What was their reaction, to send him away break all relations with him, is that right? If you people really love your kid when he did such a grave mistake in his life what will you do you will scold him, slap him and question him why he did this to his wife. Ok they did not do any of this but wanted to break relations with him , still he told them why he did this, because he hated everyone for sending him away for not loving him, he said from childhood I started believing Sid is my greatest enemy. What should have Sood's did, specially dadaji and Sid. They should have spoken with him, communication is very important in any relation. Did we see any communication between the brothers or the grandpa and grandson from the day of confrontation, a BIG NO. And they all throwing everything at NIvi, she will get him to his senses, how much can that poor girl do, she can go to some extent, but mostly before Viren is her husband he is not your son,grandson,cousin. No everyone of them put all the job on Nivi's shoulder. First day, he comes to the BF table and dadaji asks him to sit with them but he refuses, that's it you guys are done. you should persist, one day or the other the kid will turn around, NO he said I will sit alone and they let him. Pooja, you already know that guy doesnot even believe that much in God, why you need to do pooja, ok lets say because man ki shanthi, so don't you guys tell or ask him before doing that again no communication, it was Nivi again to take the responsibility. And not only pooja invite the entire Shimla for that event, you guys donot have a good realtion with the kid and you want him to behave properly. and what do they do in the pooja when the guy sits with his shoes on, they just kept glaring at him, if you really love the kid, tell him he is doing wrong, ask him to remove his shoes and if he insists then make him leave the pooja. Then why don't the kid understand. Is it Love or Guilt? which is making them act like this. Viren dancing with loud music, if you really care and love the kid give him a tight slap because he is doing wrong no they just yell and keep quiet.
CC is she showing love or guilt? if she really loves her kid, she should be a good mother and tell him what is right and wrong? she should stop him when he talking rudely with grandpa, when he is sitting in the pooja with shoes on. I say its guilt working.
Today when he enters the family room, why should you all stop talking, one looks at him with anger, other two looks at him with guilt and other two looks what to do with you kind of. what is wrong he is the son of the family and you got second chance to show him you Love him, instead of calling him and talking to him and making him comfortable they are just ignoring and alienating him, then how can you expect himto behave in a good way. And yes, he will behave rudely to you all until one month is over and then you guys can throw him out. Is this how they handle their kid? When ever he shows attitude they look at Nivi, what will that girl do, she said she will show them the real Viren but she can do uptil some extent the rest you guys should forward a helping hand. NO, then will just sit and watch the tamasha, and let him do whatever he wants because they are guilty he will leave them again. What will they do after one month if he doesnot change will they extent the lease for him?
And Nivi, I thought she understood his pain on the day of revelation but I think not. Yes, she knows how good a person Viren is but she should remember what he told her on that day, that his family never treated him good, and right now she is seeing it with her own eyes. She should talk to them and ask them to communicte with Viren, and don't just give in to what ever he says rather talk some sense into him(he already has much of it than the others) I can understand her being patient is very much necessary but just by cleaning up his mess she won't bring good Viren back within one month right? she needs to do other stuff, some other means which will reveal the good Viren to the family but what is she doing, nothing. Today she was doing the same as the whole family did looking at Viren as if some stranger entered their family room, that is the reason poor guy always calls for Nandu his Bandu. I don't know how she will bring that real Viren upfront within one month but its a big task she took, she needs to take someother means to achieve it.
In the end I want to say Sood's let Viren live with them one more month not because they love him but to eraze their guilt what they did 20 years back.
If you really love someone you will praise them when they do good,you will show them your appreciation when they achieve something,you get angry,scold or slap them when they do wrong, when they are taking wrong step you talk to them and tell them what is wrong. That is called Love and that is what Viren needs right now and he is asking for it but Sood's are not understanding it but just giving in to him for whatever he does just out of their guilt. That is not called Love and that is the reason he is pushing everyone away and committing one mistake after another so that they will throw him out, so that atlast he can breath fresh air.
It has been what 3 days they came to know Viren was the stalker, that is a grave mistake unpardonable mistake and no one is asking him why you did it, how could you harm your wife everyone of them just forgot about it. That is soo damn shameful. That is the reason I am waiting for NT dadi to know what Viren did and want to see her reaction. If she really loves Viren she should slap him so hard that he comes to his senses, that will show him what Love is. She praised him when he did good and hugged him and now if she will hit him for the right reason. I do hope CT's won't break my hope with NT dadi.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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great post Milie

about Viren taking breakfast alone separately, I thought when he refused to sit with them, one of the family should have gone to sit with him.

Also where is Viren's father (cts are making him as ineffective and absent as Indrajit in Bidaai)

you are right about Puja, I wished they would have conducted the Puja without him instead of Viren sitting in Puja with shoes and attitude.

everyone should by now understand that he is testing their patience but they are just playing wait and watch game by giving over Viren's responsibity to Nivi.

family is not at all trying to connect to Viren in proper way.

try talking to him instead of conducting Pujas.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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You should email this to the creative team, It is excellant, you put n to words what has been troubling me about the disfunction sood family for a week!
Nivi is ment to be a gentle, shy, quite girl with a big forgiving heart, I'm surprised she hasn't had a nervous breakdown yet.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Ok after watching tonight's episode the situations are seeming almost similar and handling of it different.

The scene between Keshav-Pratap where they talk their differences, their heart out this is what I wanted to see between my Sood Brothers Viren and Sid.
After dadi's lesson on that day Pratap started realizing his mistake and slowly,gradually he is taking those steps towards mending his relations and what did Keshav do when he listened to his mom talk today, he also extended his hand towards Pratap and went to speak to him and call him out for lunch.both brothers talked their heart out.
How Pratap was Ziddi and used to do all wrong things, and he used to take the blame to protect his brother and what did Pratap say for that, I loved that dialogue here "you would have slapped me brother and told me I was wrong" (this is what Viren needs too, someone who cares for him to slap him and tell him that he is doing wrong)
and the best dialogue in tonights episode " meri galti thi, Mein aap say dhoor chalagaya tha bhaisaab" and for that Keshav's answer"Meri bhi galti thi, ki jab tum dhoor chalegaye meinay tumhay nahi roka"👏👏 just briliant.
and both of them said that we took so long to mend our ways and path mom, sorry for that.
Naintara dadi played a major role in bringing back both brothers together, she communicated with brothers on their level and made them understand where did they go wrong, and then brothers took the step towards mending their relation. I really loved Naintaradadi,Keshav and Pratap's scene today. She is one proud mother, she is one true Woman, who works on all her relations, she is woman of substance.👏
Can we say the same about Sood family, a BIG NO. AFter Viren confronted and poured his heart out, what is the family doing nothing other than staring at him or glaring at him or letting him do what ever he wants.
I was the one who wrote that dadaji loves his grandson's and Viren more than Sid but today I take it back, I donot think dadaji loves any of them at all, he thinks he loves them but not. He is very principled man, lives his life with principles they don't think much about love.
If he really loved his grandsons, the first thing he was supposed to do was to clear out the misunderstanding between both brothers, make them communicate and he too communicate with them. Communication is key to any relation in this world and that is very much missing in this family.
When Sid came to talk to Viren after he found out about MP, I thought he took the right decision and after listening to Viren on the confrontaion day I thought he will do the same and start communicating with Viren but alas I was wrong, he did not do what I wanted. He is ignoring his brother just like his family is doing.
I really want to see communication between these brothers, just like how Keshav-Pratap did today. For them Naintara dadi acted as moderator but Viren-Sid noone is acting as moderator, and don't kow when that time comes. I hope this one month just doesn't go in vain.
Atleast today, Vandana showed Viren where he is going wrong. I always Viren & TAyiji's relation, she really loves him just like Sid and wants his happiness. And today she once again proved her love for Viren, when he doing the mistake she pointed out adn cried for his happiness.
But no one from the family are putting any efforts, they are not taking any steps towards mending, so how can they expect to see any change in Viren.
Its just not Nivi's responsibility, the whole family should pitch in and take the step forward and make him understand they really do love him.
Lets wait and see how Nivi will fulfill her promise in 1 month, what drastic step she will take to bring out the real Viren.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thank you Sauji and Raven(sorry dear don't know your name) for your comments. I am just fuming with anger all of Sood's now. REad my continuation I just posted. Today's episode showed the differences even more. and the way dadi handled the situation.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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thanks Milie,


I haven't watched today's episode so couldn't say much about it.
but I wanted just as NTdadi-PT-KS bonding scene, similar bs-Viren-Sid scene.
I don't want Nivi to single handedly tackle Viren.

The problem is Viren feels family abandoned him, then solution should be family should accept unknowing-made mistake in front of him and try to make Viren feel their love and understanding for him irrespective of his indifference and sarcasm towards them and it should be obviously with nivi's help.

here nivi is doing everything.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Thanks a lot Milee for creating a new thread and posting all your thoughts . I pray and hope CTs at least glance through this to give them a idea as to what we want .
Its high time CTs close open tracks . Not even one track is completely given a closure and they start on a new track , so they closed all the differences today between Keshav and Pratap but what happened to the money that Keshav owed ?? Keshav dosent have a job so how is he supporting Yash etc .Nothing has been shown on that the past few weeks .
They are making a progress on Sid Divya's relation without any closure on the past misunderstandings . It just makes me mad . Suddenly at times Divya is mad at Nivi and at times she is ok with Nivi , I cant make that out at all .
And really really want CTs to explain us Viren's character . How he did all the stalking and what was he thinking . He said he wants to hurt Sid and I dont see Sid hurting at all , I see him romancing his wife ..😡😡😡😡😡😡
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Posted: 14 years ago
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what i would like is a good and long conversation between dadaji, sid and viren. i mean they look like they dont even care. as for NT dadi she should slap viren first but after knowing wat soods did to viren she should have a showdown with the entire sood family about this. i mean sood family looks so dysfunctional when it comes to viren.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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milieee wht a wonderful post dear . lovedd it . I fully agrre wid u . Viren is nt only Nivi's husband but he is also d son of Sood house . But unfortunatelyy No1 frm sood considers him as their son n infact they treat him as Dust RIDICULOUS
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ Milee:

Wonderful post yaar...


The main porblem in all this is all the tracks that haven't been closed and so many answers are left for the viewers.

I expected much more from Nivi, because she knows Viren more than the others that he can go to any extent and a saying is that one should be more mad than the other, in order to cure the first ones madness.

Nivi is VERY slow in her approach and is not solving the problem from its roots. I only concentrate on Nivi, because she is the one who has taken the responsibility of changing Viren.

My focus, if I was Nivi was to find out what Virens dislikes/likes were, what does he prefer or what he doesn't... I would have went the household upside down in order to everything is like Viren wants...

But in CCBM they are living their rutine life and expecting at the same time that things are changed witin a month... A wise man has once said:

If you always do what u always have done
You'll always get what u always have got

CREATIVES... please wake-up and start focussing on the main storyline!!!

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