Am I the only one

Latest here to join BWF's "Am I the only one" club.

Am I the only who feels that the music of late sucks so much that even the not so good ones from 90's and 2000's sound miles better in comparison.

I am not a music/ BW song enthusiast but whenever I feel like listening to BW songs I switch to 90's and 2000's. Do you share the same feeling?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNbfMoObp3g&pp=ygUcamFkdSBiaGFyaSBhYW5raG9uIHdhbGkgc3Vubw%3D%3D

Am I the only one who thinks mediocrity started seeping into BW in the 80s itself? Mediocre actors, mediocre storylines, misogyny and what not and then the 90s just doubled up on everything with a thadka of overdose of PR. And now here we are helplessly onlooking the collapse.

Originally posted by: 1t1svat1t1s

Am I the only one who thinks mediocrity started seeping into BW in the 80s itself? Mediocre actors, mediocre storylines, misogyny and what not and then the 90s just doubled up on everything with a thadka of overdose of PR. And now here we are helplessly onlooking the collapse.

Originally posted by: JackSparrowcraz

What help would you have done? 🤣

Tell me you are ignorant without telling me you are ignorant.😅

I , as an audience,am an important part of the industry, if not the most important part. What do you mean what help?

Originally posted by: 1t1svat1t1s

Am I the only one who thinks mediocrity started seeping into BW in the 80s itself? Mediocre actors, mediocre storylines, misogyny and what not and then the 90s just doubled up on everything with a thadka of overdose of PR. And now here we are helplessly onlooking the collapse.

Completely agree!

The rise of the action hero with Amitabh Bachchan saw the switch from meaningful films to action masala films.

BW music and movies from the 40s - 70s were GOLD. 80s - 2000s had good music too, but nowhere near the magic of earlier era.

Just like our parents weren't a fan of 2000s music and used to always listen to 60s and 70s hits.

90s and 2000s had very good music.

Now very few i like. All male singers sing in the same style. melody has disappeared. Plus there's that rap jisne aur kabada kar rakha hai music scene ka 😕

Amitabh films are about justice and were meaningful.

They were never just masala films. Salim Javed scripts raised important issues about repression of poor, orphans, disenfranchised, dispossessed, deprived and their rights. Amitabh became voice of masses then and usually played working class hero like coolie or porter or waiter or how a poor person is compelled to take to crime or vigilantism due to apathy of govt and how system is rigged against poor and the rich ones, corrupt ones control everything.

I totally disagree if one keeps repeating same old lies that Amitabh's rise led to decline or his films were mere masala. His films like Abhimaan, Mili, Silsila, Kabhi Kabhi, Suhaag, Sholay, Ram Balram, Amar Akbar Anthony, Parvarish, Naseeb, Chupke Chupke, Kaala Patthar, Shakti, Muqaddar ka Sikandar etc have good music. And solid stories about ill treatment of poor, parental neglect, parental alienation, ill treatment of orphans.

Far better than escapist crap earlier where useless hero would merely shake head and chase heroine in hills of Kashmir and impregnate her before marriage.

Amitabh films showed mirror to broken society. That is why they are still loved and had new generation fans too and are still remade. His films gave a voice to repressed frustration of an enslaved and colonised society which was reeling under corrupt leaders even after independence.

Even now I am glad he chose subjects like Baghban, Pink, Jhund, Aarakshan, Black where he speaks for sidelined sections of society like SC/STs, poor, differently abled, survivors of molestation, neglected senior citizens treated as unwanted by own kids.

His only meaningless craps have been films done later like Pukar, Mahaan, Mard, Lal Badshah or films he did for survival like Boom, RGV ki aag because he was signing anything to repay his debts.

Mediocrity was always there in Bollywood. Look at crap films of past where same old story of hero's dad opposing marriage or heroine's dad opposing marriage was shown or there were kids out of wedlock or lame love triangle or saas bahu jethani nanad dramas or hero chasing woman in shikaras of Kashmir.

It got worse in 80s when likes of Jeetendra, Mithun did faltu remakes of South films, with heroines like Sridevi, ready for skin show and intimate scenes or likes of Feroze Khan, Vinod Khanna and Dimple, Madhuri, Silk Smitha ready to strip or do intimate scenes and use cuss words to draw audience.

Jeetendra and Mithun simply scream mediocrity. Period.

Even 90s was crap IMO with lame love stories and stalking passed off as love and same type of music until ARR brought some change.

I cannot believe people forgot how Govinda was king of vulgar songs like Meri pant bhi sexy, Sarkailo khatiya jaara lagey in 90s or Lolo ws doing shit like Sexy Sexy mujhe log bolein or Madhuri did Choli ke peeche kya hai.

90s was vulgar too and never just family films of Barjatya.

I cannot believe people bash 70s but forget path breaking films like Deewar, Aandhi, Ghar were made then. Ghar is still one of the most sensitive portrayals of overcoming trauma of rape. And Deewar, Trishul types were about a fatherless, poor boy seeking justice. Khubsoorat, Golmaal all great films. Manzil and Alaap by Amitabh are also good films about struggle of a man trying to start own business or struggling to pursue profession of own choice despite parental disapproval. They are not mere masala or maar dhaad.

Action in an Amitabh film usually had a purpose of getting justice and was borne out of helplessness or childhood trauma. His films were and are still cathartic. Barsat ki ek raat was ahead of its times showing a man marry a woman who was blind and avenging her rape as well, Amitabh as a husband, never leaves his wife no matter what and avenges her torment. His films like Majboor had meaningful songs like Aadmi jo kehta hai and struggle of a lone man, suffering from brain tumour but also burdened with Family responsibility and trapped in a false case.

Main Azad Hoon was also a social comment on media and politics and never a masala film. Aakhree Raasta, Shehanshah, Inquilaab were also about brokenness of system and compulsion to take route of vigilantism for justice and putting exploitative politicians in place. Same as Manoj Bajpai did in Shool later or Ajay did in Singham.

Amitabh and Salim Javed showed what a hero or heroine is. And their films are poetic justice in a society of oppression, suppression and repression like South Asia. Their heroines were also never abla or bimbos roaming in Kashmir hills. They were strong or working themselves be it Raakhee and Hema in Trishul or even Nirupa Roy as labourer in Deewar or Waheeda Rehman as labourer in Trishul and an award winning artiste in Mahaan or Jaya as a singer in Abhimaan and a knife seller in Zanjeer.

Not some silly doll with a squeaky voice and no identity of her own or wearing a useless wig to look like Hollywood star.

Amitabh and Salim Javed are timeless and epoch makers. Their films have deep social, political, cultural context wrapped in entertainment and also message of communal harmony as seen in Naseeb, Amar Akbar Anthony or Coolie.

Rajinikanth, Chiranjeevi and more remade their films and became huge stars themselves. It's not masala but justice and their films were never devoid of context.

It wad righteous anger. Amitabh's 70s films had no cheap scenes like ones done by Shakti Kapoor, Gulshan Grover etc in films later. He had downfall later but cannot be blamed for vulgarity.

Yes. We are all going thru the same pain.

Am I the only one who thought ZHZB had good music?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sLS2knUa6YZB