Bahubali 2's success shows up the north's ignorance of south - Page 15

Originally posted by: lailaMai

so according to you all 22 states should protest against hindi and then all 22 states should protest seprately for wanting their own regional language to be the one common language.

change the whole eucation sysytem? and all the paper work of this country since our independence!!

or make english one common language and not teach any regional langage of OUR OWN COUNTRY or may be just keep it as one extra subject!!

BECAUSE OF NORTH'S IGNORANCE OF YOUR MOVIES!!

bdw i am north indian and i do watch south indian movies!! and i love south indian food!!why do south indians hate north indians!! i love south india,it is so beautiful and people are so nice but even when i was there i felt as if some south indians don't approve of us and discriminate on the basis of our color !!

Even in northern India, Hindi is spoken mostly in the central and northern parts. The rest of the population speaks various other languages like Gujarati, Marwadi, Dogri, Pashto, Nepali, Assamese, Khasi and Sylheti, to name a few.

WE ALL ARE INDIANS!!

SO PUNJABI MOVIES ARE DOING PRETTY GOOD TOO NOW A DAYS DO SOUTH INDIANS WATCH THEM?

OK I AM VERY UPSET I WANT PUNJABI TO BE ONE COMMON LANGUAGE OR ENGLISH BECAUSE REST OF THE INDIA IS IGNORANT ABOUT OUR MOVIES !!!

You have missed the entire point of what has been said. What the article talks about is interconnected with Hindi imposition, the idea that Hindi=national and hence lack of knowledge of other areas, industries, etc by media themselves. Hindi film industry is viewed as the 'pan' India or national film industry due to Hindi imposition policies as well as government and media patronage to give that perception and view.

Then someone asked why there is discontent within South right now, and answer was that all are Indians but people are being silly, basically. But still within this, the idea that Hindi = India is promoted and considered as basic fact.

So then came explanation of why people are against Hindi imposition, and people like you want to either not read what people are saying, or if you do read don't care because you are hell bent on Hindi being crucial for Indian 'integration'--ignoring the fact that those policies are designed to put other languages to the lowest status.

All throughout the thread I said, whatever North wants to do with their languages is up to the people there. South and some other regions will protest at Hindi imposition in their own lands.

Local languages not given services in local banks, applications, jobs that don't require Hindi in non-Hindi lands still needing applicants to prove level of Hindi, etc etc. Schools being "recommended" to implement further Hindi education.

All the examples of local languages taken out in various areas, and instances of ONLY Hindi along Highway markers in South India--those are only a few of the many other examples. Without change to the special status to Hindi, this will not stop. Voices are raised now, Gov't will back up only on some things (but still continue imposing) Then in a few years, same thing will be attempted and will gain a bit then back away again, then again in a few years, then again...until they will have succeeded.

You can read through the thread if you haven't if you really want to know what the issue is if you want. If not., then don't.

Originally posted by: lailaMai

Even if southern India had one common language, it wouldn't make much of a difference to the debate.

Southern India doesn't want a common language. LOL.

You have missed the entire point of what has been said. What the article talks about is interconnected with Hindi imposition, the idea that Hindi=national and hence lack of knowledge of other areas, industries, etc by media themselves. Hindi film industry is viewed as the 'pan' India or national film industry due to Hindi imposition policies as well as government and media patronage to give that perception and view.

Then someone asked why there is discontent within South right now, and answer was that all are Indians but people are being silly, basically. But still within this, the idea that Hindi = India is promoted and considered as basic fact.

So then came explanation of why people are against Hindi imposition, and people like you want to either not read what people are saying, or if you do read don't care because you are hell bent on Hindi being crucial for Indian 'integration'--ignoring the fact that those policies are designed to put other languages to the lowest status.

All throughout the thread I said, whatever North wants to do with their languages is up to the people there. South and some other regions will protest at Hindi imposition in their own lands.

Local languages not given services in local banks, applications, jobs that don't require Hindi in non-Hindi lands still needing applicants to prove level of Hindi, etc etc. Schools being "recommended" to implement further Hindi education.

All the examples of local languages taken out in various areas, and instances of ONLY Hindi along Highway markers in South India--those are only a few of the many other examples. Without change to the special status to Hindi, this will not stop. Voices are raised now, they may back up. But in a few years, same thing will be attempted, then again in a few years, then again...until they will have succeeded.

You can read through the thread if you haven't if you really want to know what the issue is if you want. If not., then don't.

bdw i like what you have done to vidya balan's picture on your dp.what app did you use? it's from dirty picture right!!

Originally posted by: lailaMai

i'm sorry if im rude but i don't have the patience to read such long threads,all i got from what i read was you have a problem with hindi being the dominating language in india!! today you want to protest about hindi imposition in your lands,today you don't want a common language,tomorrow if you do manage to get what you are imposing right now, one day you will start protesting for wanting a common language out of your own lands. so my point is even if you acheive that nothing will change beacuse it's the superiority complex like guess who mentioned in his post!!

Which is why I said, if you want you can read, if not don't.

And your reply makes no sense shows how set your mind and get incensed at the fact that people do not want Hindi imposed.

What are you talking about? What is South Imposing. Hindi imposition should be out of the land. South has no problem with English as link language, and there no one is asking for a common language.

Superiority complex for wanting to protect one's own language and oppose imposition of Hindi? Those who want to impose Hindi on others are telling those who want are trying to protect the languages in its OWN lands about superiority complex.

Originally posted by: lailaMai

bdw i like what you have done to vidya balan's picture on your dp.what app did you use? it's from dirty picture right!!

It was made back in 2011 by someone else. I've had it since then. Really all it is a screen cap of a scene from one of the early trailers.

Originally posted by: KhatamKahani

Once again your whole argument tells non-Hindi speakers to implement Hindi because it is 'easier' for the North, West and East, that too when going to South. South is biggest protester, Northeast protests this too. So you want, for the ease for one section, other sections to adopt a language easier for that section. If North, West and East want to have Hindi as their easy link language they can do so, it's up to them to protest or not protest. And yet, still you want Hindi to be imposed on South as it has been done so all these decades, and now attempting to do so even more to speed up the process.

And again and again, legitimate grievances by people are made into political agenda. Look, why don't you look at how Right Wing, Left Wing, Centrists are all against Hindi-imposition. This is something Hindi Chauvinists cannot understand. That it can transcend political agenda and affiliations.

I don't need to believe things from social media to know about Hindi imposition and chauvinism. I am aware very well what goes on without social media and Newspapers. But for you, everything that does come on social media against Hindi is political and agenda based, but nothing for Hindi imposition is agenda based.

And you once again, what I was mentioning in another reply is shown here yet again. English as a neutral language is always denied and Hindi is always told to be so-called link language. Hindi will be imposed no matter what, unless either Hindi is taken out or all languages are put in. HRD ministry won't allow? Yes, yes, hail the imperialism. Hindi imperialism keeps on happening, Hindi chauvinists will keep belittling this issue until win by continuing to impose and succeeding, or opposition wins out.

Hindi imposition leads the way for Hindi to be the spoken language in parliament. All the bullshit excuses of 'if you don't know Hindi' it's okay, it's just that, it's bullshit. And the ultimate goal is to have it all conducted in Hindi. And along with this, Hindi will be the so called first-tier Indian language, while others are lower class, until finally they become irrelevant.

bhai y so much hate for hindi which is ur own country language , y so much love for english which is another country language , u can accept english den y not hindi ?laber class ppl cant understand english dets y goverment support hindi , hindi has larger reach , MP,Panjab,bihar ,UP, rajshthan de all have their own language but de understand hindi n prefer hindi wen de want to conversation wid other state ppl , just bcs south has insecurity det does not mean government baki state ko ignore kar de , adhe se jyada india knows hindi very well , obviously government will promote hindi,

labour class ppl from MP,Panjab,bihar ,UP, rajshthan cant understand english de know hindi dets y sign board n other things r in hindi n English , for south ppl government gave a option of english but u cant accept labour class of bihar n up to understand english so hindi is there.

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So then came explanation of why people are against Hindi imposition, and people like you want to either not read what people are saying, or if you do read don't care because you are hell bent on Hindi being crucial for Indian 'integration'--ignoring the fact that those policies are designed to put other languages to the lowest status.

it isn't crucial for indian integration!! no one is putting any language low infact you want to put hindi to a low status.. it's how you think.i'm not even hindu and i don't speak hindi.but i have no problems with it!!

Originally posted by: lailaMai

So then came explanation of why people are against Hindi imposition, and people like you want to either not read what people are saying, or if you do read don't care because you are hell bent on Hindi being crucial for Indian 'integration'--ignoring the fact that those policies are designed to put other languages to the lowest status.

it isn't crucial for indian integration!! no one is putting any language low infact you want to put hindi to a low status.. it's how you think.i'm not even hindu and i don't speak hindi.but i have no problems with it!!

All throughout the thread I said, whatever North wants to do with their languages is up to the people there. South and some other regions will protest at Hindi imposition in their own lands.

you are talking about imposing yourself don't contradict your own statements!!

If you agree it's not crucial for integration why are you having a problem with South opposing Hindi on its OWN lands. South is not saying not to use Hindi in North if they want to. Nor do I want to put Hindi on a low status. All I'm saying is it doesn't deserve HIGHER status than all the other languages. And I just repeated to you examples of how local languages are taken out, how services are denied in local language, and you are saying no one is pulling any language. Indian Act says it in writing itself--what the designed results and consequences of the Indian gov't policies are. Local language for lowest class tickets only.

What am I imposing? How am I contradicting? Explain how I am instead of just claiming.