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Posted: 11 years ago

#391

Originally posted by: poppy2009
@Krystal,

1. Why did Rukmini or the Naval base radar not pick up anything?

Regarding why Rukmini did not pick up any signals, we don't know anything yet. I am no expert on Satellites, but from the little I know, they pick up a lot of signals from various sources and it takes some time to shift through all that electronic information and make sense out of it! 

2. What did the Civil Aviation Chief of Malayasia mean and what "undisclosed location" did the minister go off to?

Frankly, at this point, I wouldn't believe the Malaysian Government at all. Not because I think they are deliberately withholding information, simply because they have obviously never faced a crisis of this proportion where the entire world's focus is on them and they are clearly fumbling badly. China is already pissed off with them big time for giving out too much information to the media, apparently!

3. Why were the transponders switched off?

Million Dollor Question! Frankly, no idea. From all that I have read, it hints to sabotage.

4. Why did the ground control not notify when the plane went off-route?

The Ground Control had no idea where MH370 was! The last contact made was over Vietnam and then there was no communication at all! Hence, they broadcasted the plane as 'missing' because they could not see it on their Radar's below!

5. If it was a hijack attempt, then how come no leads on that front?

Actually, investigation is going on. And I presume, this is one thing, that the Chinese, Malaysians and everyone else involved would prefer to keep mum on till they find something very solid! Our local news said that Police has been stationed outside the Pilot's home for the last two days.

Strong points. Its the transponder and Malayasian secrecy angles which are bothering me the most. I don't think it can be denied at this point that the latter are DEFINITELY trying to cover something up; otherwise why would they expressly declare that there are certain things that can't be let out? With all the media glare on them, they should be even more forthcoming and transparent to avoid finger-pointing at them. All this accusation of cover-up and the resultant conspiracy theories floating around are doing their image and credibility irraparable damage.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#392

Originally posted by: SunNaa

but AF 447 's black box was found after 2 years in 2011... just saw the whole investigation... and still it had the entire conversation n everything...only the black box could reveal the truth behind this flight now [if it has crashed]

What SG means is that the Black Box keeps emitting a beam for the first 30 days after a crash...that beam can help to pinpoint the location where it lies.

After 30 days, it goes silent and since it is a pretty compact equiment, and also very heavy, so if the plane crashed into the Sea, the black box will probably sink to the bottom due to its weight and will be very difficult to locate. (Just imagine, finding a small shoe sized box in Ocean Floor!)

The information in BB remains for a very long time, for years, if I am correct, hence, whenever its found, it will give the entire data of cockpit recording. Problem is finding it in the first place itself requires a lot of difficulties.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#393

Jim Clancy, on CNN, is now claiming that their "senior Air Force source" said that, shortly after they lost contact, the aircraft changed altitude "erratically" before settling back at cruise altitude (35000 feet)

Could that indicate a struggle in the cockpit? That was resolved, one way or the other, with the aircraft settling back to cruise altitude and being flown by hijackers?

They're also suggesting that the timing of comms systems going offline, according to experts, indicates that they were shut down deliberately, some 14 minutes apart.

Very interesting.

Also, WSJ reporter on CBC mentioned that they have 5 hrs of GPS data including alt, lat, and long. Unless they are completely bluffing, this proves more or less, that the plane was indeed airborne for a total of atleast 5 hours of flying time.

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Posted: 11 years ago

#394

Okay, now I'm gonna sound like a broken record, but seriously, EVERYTHING points at a hi-jack.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Originally posted by: gora1100

Who says so?

Does malasiya authority said?

When did it reach Vietnaam? Is Malasiyan authority lieing everywhere????????

Plane was still in the mid-sea of before reaching Vietnaam,

and in the mid-sea was there, that very last mumbled voice contact held

and plane disappeared after that.

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Should have worded this more correctly. The plane's last contact was with Subang ATC in Malaysia and it kept showing in the radar till it reached the Gulf of Thailand, where it was supposed to go into the jurisdiction of the Vietnam ATC.

At 1.22 am, the plane was meant to transfer to Vietnam's Ho Chi Minh air traffic control but never appeared. Yes, it was in the middle of the sea, but the air-space in which the plane was supposed to be at that time was governed by Vietnam.

So yes, technically, the last contact from the pilot to the ground control was in Malaysia, but the plane was still showing on radar till it touched Vietnam air-space. After that it went missing from the radar too.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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It's not only about the two men travelling on wrong passports. Look at this-

Breaking: Interpol Looking at 35 Year-Old Uighur Passenger on MH370 - Trained in Flight Simulation

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, March 13, 2014, 8:56 AM

Interpol and Malaysian officials are looking at a 35 year-old Uighur passenger on missing flight MH370. The suspect passenger had previously taken flight simulation training in 2006. The man has a PHD from a university in Britain and is an assistant professor in the Department of Electrical and Electronics Engineering, at a Turkish university.

Ethnic Muslim Uighurs from western China have been responsible for several terror attacks in China. Earlier this month the Uighurs, who make up 45 percent of the population of Xinjiang, were blamed for a violent attack at a Chinese train station.

The Malay Mail Online reported:

Malaysian police and Interpol are combing through the personal backgrounds of passengers and crew of the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, and have confirmed they are taking a close look at a 35-year-old passenger of Uighur descent.
Bukit Aman Criminal Investigation Department director Datuk Hadi Ho Abdullah confirmed this in a report in the Malay language daily Harian Metro today.
"We will conduct further investigations into this matter," he said, without divulging further details.
It is understood that the police have also searched the family homes of crew members including the pilot and co-pilot of the flight, as terrorism and sabotage has not been ruled out as a reason behind the disappearance of the airliner.
An unnamed source had told the daily that Malaysian police and Interpol are focusing their attention on this man because of the skills he possessed.
"We are not saying that he is involved in terrorism, suspected of sabotaging or hijacking the plane, it's just that more attention is on him because of his background and we feel that there are important elements that have to be looked at," the source was quoted as saying.
The Uighurs are a Turkic ethnic group primarily living in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region in China.
More... There was also a 35 year-old Uighur artist on the plane.
WYPR reported:
KUHN: Jung says that when Chinese media first revealed the passenger list, one name was obscured from view: Memetjan Abdullah. He's a 35-year-old Uyghur oil painter from Kashgar, a fabled oasis town on the old Silk Road. The Uyghurs are Turkic-speaking Muslim people who inhabit China's far west Xinjiang region.
I spoke to the artist's friend, Beijing-based Uyghur photographer and TV cameraman Kuerbanjiang Saimaiti(ph) .
KUERBANJIANG SAIMAITI: (Through translator) His paintings are all about his hometown: portraits, the old houses of Kashgar, women, children, old folks.
KUHN: He says his friend's main interest in life is capturing the colors and the textures of his Central Asian homeland on canvas. His friend doesn't drink or smoke. He's a Communist Party member but, he adds, he hasn't completely abandoned his Islamic faith. He says that Memetjan Abdullah was the only Uyghur chosen to join a group of two dozen Chinese painters traveling to Malaysia on an exchange program.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Transponder on missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 may have been shut down deliberately: Experts

KUALA LUMPUR (AFP) - New evidence has suggested that communication from the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 may have been deliberately cut off.

ABC news said US investigators now believe the aircraft's data reporting system and its transponder - which reports its position in flight to ground-based radar - shut down separately.

The fact that the devices appear to have been shut off at a 14-minute interval from one another suggests that they may have been deliberately disabled or at any rate did not fail as a result of a catastrophic airframe incident, the US network said.

The transponder was switched off 30 minutes after the final voice communication from the cockpit, around the same time that Malaysia believes the plane may have inexplicably started to turn back, the Washington Post said.

Crew members from the Royal Malaysian Air Force prepare a Malaysian Air Force CN235 aircraft for a Search and Rescue (SAR) operation to find the missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, in the Strait of Malacca on March 13, 2014. -- PHOTO: REUTERS

Taken together, that "suggests that someone unauthorised took control of that airplane, like an intruder or one of the pilots", the Post quoted one US flight crash expert as saying.

According to data obtained, the reporting system was shut down at 1.07am (Malaysia time) and the transponder at 1.21am.

The plane lost radar contact at around 1.30am, less than an hour after take-off, according to Malaysian officials.

They have confirmed that the last words heard from the cockpit were a relaxed "Alright, good night" as the plane was due to pass from Malaysian to Vietnamese air traffic control. The night was clear and the weather was fine.

"The last (data) transmission from the aircraft was at 0107 hours which indicated that everything was normal," Malaysian Transport Minister Hishammuddin Hussein told reporters on Thursday.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Jon Ostrower, Aerospace & Boeing beat reporter for The Wall Street Journal, is stating that the last ping from the missing aircraft to satellites was 5 hours after it went missing and was from over water.

He's holding firm to this claim. He says he does not know the exact location, but as that ping includes GPS, speed and alt data, he says there will be those that do know.

US is sending a ship to the Indian Ocean to search a very specific spot.

Just breaking on UK radio, that the aircraft was flown to the Andaman Islands. Reporting that radar data has been leaked to Reuters.

If this is true, what on earth was the Indian Airforce and Navy doing?😕

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Posted: 11 years ago

#399

I hope they are alive and these people find them!

This is insane.

It will be a week now.

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Posted: 11 years ago

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Plot thickens!!:

Military radar-tracking evidence suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown across the Malay peninsula towards the Andaman Islands, sources familiar with the investigation told Reuters.

Two sources said an unidentified aircraft that investigators believe was Flight MH370 was following a route between navigational waypoints - indicating it was being flown by someone with aviation training - when it was last plotted on military radar off the country's northwest coast.

The last plot on the military radar's tracking suggested the plane was flying toward India's Andaman Islands, a chain of isles between the Andaman Sea and the Bay of Bengal, they said.

Waypoints are geographic locations, worked out by calculating longitude and latitude, that help pilots navigate along established air corridors.

A third source familiar with the investigation said inquiries were focusing increasingly on the theory that someone who knew how to fly a plane deliberately diverted the flight, with 239 people on board, hundreds of miles off its intended course from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing.

"What we can say is we are looking at sabotage, with hijack still on the cards," said that source, a senior Malaysian police official.

All three sources declined to be identified because they were not authorised to speak to the media and due to the sensitivity of the investigation.

Officials at Malaysia's Ministry of Transport, the official point of contact for information on the investigation, did not return calls seeking comment.

Malaysian police have previously said they were investigating whether any passengers or crew had personal or psychological problems that might shed light on the mystery, along with the possibility of a hijacking, sabotage or mechanical failure.

The comments by the three sources are the first clear indication that foul play is the main focus of official suspicions in the Boeing 777's disappearance.

As a result of the new evidence, the sources said, multinational search efforts were being stepped up in the Andaman Sea and also the Indian Ocean.