EXPLOSIVE THREAD:Why Doesn't BW haven't seen a single Dalit Superstar?

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Dalits in Bollywood: A skewed equation nobody is willing to talk about
While Bollywood is busy celebrating the 100 years of Indian films, we say it is a time for reflection. While art and artists should not be judged on basis of their religion, caste and creed, the skewed participation from a section of the society into India's most glamorous profession raises a few questions. And strangely, as we realized, nobody is willing to answer why despite economic and geographical growth, the untouchables of the society do not find a screen space. Why does Bollywood have not seen a single Dalit superstar - lack of talent or selective rejection?

Vivek Kumar, Professor of Sociology in Jawaharlal NehruUniversity says, "Indian cinema was always about celebration. It was only after the 70's and the 80's that reality was reflected in films. Moreover, there was no research or development and film-makers took up ready-made scripts such as Harischandra, Bhagat Singh, Gandhi as their subject matter. There was no room for the Dalits to enter the scene"

But what about equally popular personalities like Dr. BR Ambedkar or Kabir? Wouldn't their life have made an interesting story for a film? Why do Bollywood find producers ready to put in 80 crore indian rupees for a film around Gandhi and only 8 crores for a film around Dr.Ambedkar?

In recent past, From mythological stories to dealing with the life and struggle of the common man and to addressing the gay question, Bollywood have matured in dealing with various taboo topics. In midst of all these the industry has produced films and characters around the untouchable communities. A Dalit boy grows up to become a police officer and comes back to his birth place as a deputed official -Sanjay Dutt playing DSP Pannalal Chohaar in a Vidhu Vinod Chopra movie Eklavya - is probably a reflection to the recent day society mind-shift and also acceptance of the fact that Dalits are coming forward. But then Bollywood fails to create real life examples of such characters. No Pannalal ever had a leading role in any movie.

Kancha Ilaiah, Dalit activist, points out, "The inbuilt caste discrimination in society has been reflected in Bollywood as well. Although Dalits were excellent performers, but when street performance moved to theaters, the upper caste captured the theater."

So the claim of Bollywood that it does not adhere to caste, creed or religion is completely untrue or the methods of segregation different from that of our society? Ilaiah replied to the above query by saying that the division is very subtle and sophisticated. "Bollywood has moved away from the crude system of unaccountability but the system is not dead." He also compared Dalits with Muslims and said that Bollywood has been welcoming to the Muslim society. All the superstars today are from the Muslim community but the same cannot be said for the Dalits.

Illaiah goes on to explain the economic barrier working against the advancement of the community. "Dalit youth, who are inclined to enter the Industry, lose out because they do not have the cultural capital such as lifestyle, mannerisms or peer groups, which would help them sustain in Bollywood"

But one can gradually feel the strong undercurrent of change coming up in dealing with the issue. From Prem Granth (where a socially ostracized Madhuri Dixit is not able to confront her love) to Ekalavya (which sees Sanjay Dutt as a Dalit police officer, who is not only proud of himself but also unapologetic about his origin) we have seen massive changes in the presentation of Dalits. Accepting the fact that change is happening in the society is probably an indication enough that Bollywood is waking up.

But parallel to this is a maintained silence that promotes the discrimination. The otherwise vocal Bollywood stars are not willing to share their views on this topic. "Does caste based discrimination happen at any level within the industry?" No comments. "Did you ever experience or hear people segregating others on basis of untouchability?" No comments" " Why do you see a few dalits as support staff and none as a lead role of a movie making business?" No Comments. " Why No comments? What are you afraid of?" No answer to that either.

Poster boy of Dalit Community Chirag Paswan made an entry in to Bollywood a few years ago. His entry had been touted as "Dalit boy's entry into Bollywood" by many. His first film Miley Na Milye Hum tanked in Box office 2 years ago. But in the next two years despite political connections and financial ability to struggle, Chirag couldn't bag any other project. What went wrong? The actor who in his initial days described being a "Bollywood Hero is "a childhood dream", had apparently given away that dream and came back to help his father in politics. While Lok Janshakti Party, which ideally fights for the cause of Dalits, is projecting Chirag as their poster boy, the Bollywood return refused to even pick up the call or reply to sms when he heard we were looking to quiz him on the topic of caste in Bollywood. But then Chirag's silence itself speaks a lot.

Will it take Bollywood another hundred years to see a proportionate Dalit representation in the silver screens of Indian cinema like we see for the Muslims? We hope not. As Professor Kumar says, "Cinema is a part of our culture and to talk about the cultural anchorage in society, we need independent minds and independent personality."

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Umm...even among the current stars we dunno what caste they belong to. So does it matter?
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Sorry! Can't differentiate who is an aryan, who is dalit.. who is peedit.
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definitely the Dalits should be given more chance...who denies...but the question is " with the existing laws n quota system, do the real dalits who r actually poor are getting any benefits???" i have seen my friends whose fathers have much more earnings than my father have used quota to get into colleges, to get into govt jobs...now talking abt dalits being in Bollywood...i dont think talent has got anything to do with being dalit or non- dalit...

...but here for the past 60 years, in the name of quota some castes have taken this advantage genrations over generations...so for me bringing caste thing to a Bollywood is simply no...!!!!!!!!!!!!

bollywood may take interest in finding the talent in the villages who due to lack of money cant come to mumbai for auditions n all...that they can do...i may sound rude...but i dont believe in a system where the actual people in need dont get anything to improve their conditions!!!!!!!!!!!!

Regarding untouchables, in our system untouchables still exist.but i dont think any politcian or anyone is even thinking about them...thats very sad even after 65 years of independence,,,,,,,talent hunt is definitely required...but who will invest...after all its producers money...why will he bother to even think of the society...this society is cruel enough to suppress the poor...had the untouchables been a bit richer then they would not have been called untouchables...so i feel the root cause is "poverty"...if that can be solved then i think other problems will automatically solved...

I would have been happy if the writer had used the word POOR instead of dalit...

Edited by subha_rath2004 - 12 years ago
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I don't think actors are ever cast in the movies based on the caste...Its an entertainment business...the people who will sell and bring money will be cast in the movies...it does not matter to which minority group they belong...I am sure the one thing that the producers who put crores and crores of Rupees are least worried about is the caste and creed of the actor...Don't we have enough reservations in all the categories already...Just leave the entertainment business out it please.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Recently in malayalam, there was a film called celluloid which dealt with low caste girl acting as heroine in a film and how upper caste made her fled from her village.

It was a tribute to J.C.Daniel who directed vigathakumaran, the first malayalam film, which got into serious trouble for casting a low caste woman . It was years back.

The irony is, untouchability still remains...

When will our stars shed their inhibitions of looking six packed and fair?
Edited by gohem123 - 12 years ago
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Velle log!! Couldn't find anything else to research?? 🤔
I want a Dalit in the Gandi family. Why Gandhis have no Dalit? Research please!! Maybe Rahul should marry one.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: subha_rath2004

definitely the Dalits should be given more chance...who denies...but the question is " with the existing laws n quota system, do the real dalits who r actually poor are getting any benefits???" i have seen my friends whose fathers have much more earnings than my father have used quota to get into colleges, to get into govt jobs...now talking abt dalits being in Bollywood...i dont think talent has got anything to do with being dalit or non- dalit...



My SC friends in College got loads of money from the Gov. Their families were mostly cushioned in great Govt jobs and they needed nothing. They'd splurge the money on clothes and what not. They also got scholarships even when they didn't deserve it. SC, STs had separate book banks too. And even if a Gen cat person was poor enough and couldn't afford a book, these book banks wouldn't loan it to these students. The book would just lie in there rotting!! 😡

Therte was this SC girl who took 6 yrs to complete her Engg. Now she has a great Gov job. 😕All the other SC, STs from my batch also have awesome Gov jobs where they sit on their butt and do nothing while enjoying all the perks the job comes with. This system STINKS! They should stop this quota system and base it on economic status. Bahut ho gayi quotagiri. 🤢

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Posted: 12 years ago
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seriously ppl are wondering about dalits in BW what about the open caste .hum logon ki tho vatt lagi hai .be it education ,jobs ,travel ,housing for every damn thing we have to kill every cell in our body and the SC St ppl have too much more than they can handle .No one can even protest about the damn quota thing but then we get accused for showing inequality .I m all for equality but atleast give everyone what they deserve .whats the point of snatching from someone and paying to other
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Black_Cat_


then why are u posting here...GET LOST 😆

and how is it ridiculous...the article gives a clear picture of the industry's hypocrisy, are u too stupid to accept it or ignorant about it.

no I dont care about casts !!!! I don't belong to the industry either so don't expect an expert comment from me !!!!! 😆

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