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Posted: 11 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: PiscineMolitor

Sorry, i beg to differ.

Shilpa said the incident with arman took her back to another incident where some guys started beating them up.
Secondly, she also mentioned that Apoorv is like her father she lost at a young age, her child she hasn't had till now and the closest person next to God. Imagine YOU had someone like that in your life. Where one person is your EVERYTHING.
Would you not get 'hyper' or angry if he was being hurt?
It's not about speaking up for himself. It's about the fact that he would rather remain calm and not make a big deal out of it, and in that process, let the mad dog (arman) bark to himself.
Shilpa didn't do it for standing up for her husband.
It was her reaction regarding her feelings towards her husband Apoorv.

Respect your disagreement but it is really hard for me to see myself in Shilpa's position as I am very different as an individual. The way Shilpa reacts towards Apoorva as if he is a infant is in no way normal. He was not seriously hurt, he was not dying. Asif actually hurt himself and everyone ignored it😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: J-SK

Someone mentioned he ignores women problems on the show. I personally hate when someone plays the woman card to win an argument. If you are on a show where you are equal to the male contestants, then you should not demand special respect for being a woman. So I am not sure when he ignored it but I am glad that he does and I didn't like when he supported Mehak for it either.


I don't like it when people over play the women card either but it's a genuine argument in this case.

Don't you think the way Armaan has treated women deserved a strong rebuke ? I felt that he neutralized the whole thing between Ellie and Armaan by making it seem like both sides were equally wrong and even tilting in favor of Armaan to some extent. Sorry, this is not the woman card. I think there is a genuine problem with how women are treated in the country. We are not some liberal, feminist western country where men are against the wall. And at a time like this I feel people should voice their opposition when they see injustice regardless of the platform otherwise it just sends out a very wrong message.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: Carabelli5

I understand your sympathy for Asif as I feel the same for him at times. However, he needs to take a stand for himself and not rely on Salman or BB. I think he is also to be blamed for turning himself into a laughing stock. From what I hear he is a successful model, but I am yet to see the confidence in him. As far as Arman is concerned I highly doubt anyone dislikes that chauvinist more than me. And lastly the fact that Asif didn't get personal and abusive with Noman is an attestation to his good character.
As far as Shilpa is concerned, I have non prob with Shilpa standing up for her husband. However he is a 3o smthg year old man who can speak for himself and when she tries to fight his battles she presents him a bad light. the forum has been filled with Shilpa hate post previously and Salman was only trying to make them aware of it.
Cheers!

Dearie, he took a stand for himself, thats the thing im more upset on. The only thing that differed was that Armaan went physical and asif didnt. Plus, asif is a successful model and i believe that there is a communication gap andnjust that Asif is a very cool minded person. Ive seen people in life who mantain their calm ignoring things until things get unbearable, i assume asif is one of them.
I disliked the fact that Salman took it so lightly and absorbed Armaans lies and abuses and instead of telling Armaan not to do so in the future, he just told him to take the higher road which Asif actually did. When someone is wrong, hes supposed to be told that he is. Thats it. Do you think after this, when he saw Salman not saying anything Armaan will not continue his behaviour? He will, knowing that theres no one to stop him. Thats what saddens me the most, last night may have boosted his confidence.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: -Cruiser-



You really think his 'advices' are his own? 😲

TV show hosts have a huge Tele-promptor in front of their eyes which has bullet points coming across as the shoot goes on besides concealed microphones inside their ears which continuously relay the inputs from experts on the other side.

But for these little aids, there can not be an Amitabh successfully projecting himself as fountain of knowledge doing a KBC, just as Shahrukh would appear Chauthi fail while doing a Kya Aap Paanchvi Paas Hain...and Salman would fare even worse than a teesri fail! 😆


I agree some of the advices are written by the staff or w/e but surely some of those 'advices' are coming from him ? You wouldn't expect some one like Salman to not have full creative control over everything he does. With his stature and everything, he is in a position to dictate terms to colors.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: silverbug


I don't like it when people over play the women card either but it's a genuine argument in this case.

Don't you think the way Armaan has treated women deserved a strong rebuke ? I felt that he neutralized the whole thing between Ellie and Armaan by making it seem like both sides were equally wrong and even tilting in favor of Armaan to some extent. Sorry, this is not the woman card. I think there is a genuine problem with how women are treated in the country. We are not some liberal, feminist western country where men are against the wall. And at a time like this I feel people should voice their opposition when they see injustice regardless of the platform otherwise it just sends out a very wrong message.


Just to add to this, I did not agree with his treatment of Asif-Armaan issue either.

Armaan was in the clear wrong by touching and browbeating Asif in a provocative way. This is against the rules of BB. If Salman is so insistent on following rules like he is on most issues, then why not on this one especially when it involves breaking a core rule. Instead of pointing out Armaan's obvious wrong doing, he nitpicks on Asif and points out that he was cat walking which was also overdone and over exaggerated because let's be honest Asif was not walking around like that nor have I ever seen him walking like that in the house. There was no need for Salman to do that because that is clearly a vote of confidence in favor of Armaan and Armaan applauded Salman for it.


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Posted: 11 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: silverbug


I don't like it when people over play the women card either but it's a genuine argument in this case.

Don't you think the way Armaan has treated women deserved a strong rebuke ? I felt that he neutralized the whole thing between Ellie and Armaan by making it seem like both sides were equally wrong and even tilting in favor of Armaan to some extent. Sorry, this is not the woman card. I think there is a genuine problem with how women are treated in the country. We are not some liberal, feminist western country where men are against the wall. And at a time like this I feel people should voice their opposition when they see injustice regardless of the platform otherwise it just sends out a very wrong message.


He let both sides put their argument on the table and left it at that. It was already resolved between Elli and Armaan and he wasn't required to pass his own judgement on the matter. I totally agreed with Elli in that fight because I got her point of being a foreigner and Indian men thinking she is easy.
Salman brought the matter up and had a full discussion on it and that is not ignoring it. But like I said, its the price he has to pay for being who he is, people are gonna pick on everything he does or says. If he supported Armaan, then people would say he is like that himself, if he supported Elli, people would say its because he likes her and when he ignores, he ruins Bigg Boss.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#47
Oh and I do agree with OP about how he elevated Sangram in everyone's eyes. That was an awesome thing Salman did with bullies like Armaan around who question people's 'Aukaat'.
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Posted: 11 years ago
#48
Have a look at this Vid, pay attention to conversation between Nanga Baba and Naag-Man where Naag Man says why is Tanya (his girlfriend I presume), worried? 3 Times On Cam I have said I will be back soon and be with her...🤓

Then pay attention to 12.00 onwards where Salman tells Armaan not to use sentences like,"Tu jaanta naheen Main Kaun Hoon, Tu Baahar Mil, ...etc."😈

And then wonder whether your perception of Salman Khan is still the same as it was when you ha watched only the screened episode yesterday night!😛

While it is understandable viewers will base their judgments based on what they see in evening episodes and their perceptions of individuals would be based on watched episodes only, point is BB team has to edit out some 40 minutes of clips out of 24 hours of footage every day. THEY WILL, continue to project individuals as THEY WANT TO!😊

Actual reality of situations as well as individuals can be very-very different from what we get to watch evening time!
😊

Watch it...😛

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tfidbXrNHOE[/YOUTUBE]
Edited by -Cruiser- - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#49

Originally posted by: J-SK


He let both sides put their argument on the table and left it at that. It was already resolved between Elli and Armaan and he wasn't required to pass his own judgement on the matter. I totally agreed with Elli in that fight because I got her point of being a foreigner and Indian men thinking she is easy.
Salman brought the matter up and had a full discussion on it and that is not ignoring it. But like I said, its the price he has to pay for being who he is, people are gonna pick on everything he does or says. If he supported Armaan, then people would say he is like that himself, if he supported Elli, people would say its because he likes her and when he ignores, he ruins Bigg Boss.


I think you will find that if he supported Ellie, the number of people who would applaud him for doing the right thing will far far outnumber the people who say that he is saying it because he likes Ellie.

I don't particularly like Mahek but really appreciated it when Salman and Sanjay took the case against Sid and Sky because they had crossed all lines especially Sid with his kicking act. Sure, in hindsight he was also being selective but what he did was a fair and right thing to do. The whole Balbir-Preeti story and 'nanga kar doonga' talk was quite disturbing to watch, some one should have intervened at that point and I'm glad Salman did.
Edited by silverbug - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: silverbug


I think you will find that if he supported Ellie, the number of people who would applaud him for doing the right thing will far far outnumber the people who say that he is saying it because he likes Ellie.

I don't particularly like Mahek but really appreciated it when Salman and Sanjay took the case against Sid and Sky because they had crossed all lines especially Sid with his kicking act. Sure, in hindsight he was being selective but what he did was a fair and right thing to do.


Well thats okay we have different views, I thought Mehak deserved equal bashing and the Elli matter didn't need to be stretched any further. Anyways, you have to agree that people tend to blindly hate on Salman for everything.

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