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Posted: 11 years ago
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I am really shocked at all characters here. I don't know what to make of Jaiwantabai. And Uday Singh sucks even more! Dheerbai toh totally mad!

Jaiwantabai:

Couldn't she have talked earlier?! Why did she have to do it in midst of it all and still stupidly ask Rana ji that her name should not come here?! [:o] Couldn't she have talked to her own brother who is a courtier in US' court?!

And what kind of a Rani ma? What kind of a Kshtrani is she?! [:x] Can't tolerate threats to her son's life?! Buckled under pressure of one psycho woman's dialogues?!

Where is her wisdom?! Couldn't she have taken measures for Pratap's security instead of cowing down by Dheerbai's threats? US doesn't listen to her. Fine. But couldn't control, guide and caution her son either? (She could have indirectly also told him that there are people in the mahal who are after his life so he should be careful!)

She could have teamed up with Sajja to keep an eye on Dheerbai and protect their kids.

I mean there are many other ways to deal with threats!

Also, how could she be so selfish? How could she place her own concerns as a mother before duty towards land and family?!!! [:o]

For threats to your son, you'll back off? You'll deny your land its ideal administrator and protector? You'll deny your family its true successor?! [:x]

No! Yesterday Jaiwantabai ruined her position, ruined her relationship with her husband and family and gave more fuel to this fire called Dheerbai by behaving in such a fashion! [:o]

I wanted to sympathise with her. But could not. [:s]

UDAY SINGH:

The hen-pecked husband who's blind love and lack of trust over others in the root cause of all this! [XXX] He started caling Jaiwantabai a nagin and accused her of being heartless! [:x]

I was so enraged at him!!! [xx(] Khud toh sach sunne ka saahas nahi hai! Aur doosron ko bolta hai! [:x]

It is his blind love for Dheerbai due to which Jaiwanta can't tell him the truth. He'd have called her a naagin anyway and broken off all ties with her even if she told him the truth of her threats! [:x]

I blame him for never trusting Jaiwantabai and never giving her conducive environment to talk frankly to him.

Not even once could he gently ask her what was it that bothered her so much and led her to asking for such boons.

He again said worst to her and broke off ties with her without wondering why Jaiwantabai did what she did!

Shameless man! [:x]

DHEERBAI:

Dhikkaarbai! Bhootyani! Bhonkyani! Bhaandyani! [xx(] What a constipated look she had on her face when Pratap was about to be crowned! [:x] In real sense, all the gaalis that Jaiwantabai gets are what that she should be getting instead!

It is her luck that US believes her blindly and Jaiwantabai chickened out by her threats.

I hope this woman and her son are never able to be happy for even a second in life! And I wish she rots in hell! [XXX]

The way her face changed when US was talking to her I was wondering why US did not smell a rat there! [:o]

The witch got Shakti out by creating rift between him and US and fuelling his frustrations. Now she got Pratap out! [:x]

Ghar phook rahi hai aur sab ko pata hai siwai Uday Singh ke, lekin koi kuch nahi kar sak raha kyunki Uday Singh ki laadli hai! [:x]

Who's she to threaten to kill or get thrown out anyone else's kids?! [:x]

I am frustrated a lot after last night's episode!!! [:x] So many wise and brave people dancing at tunes of one mad woman! [:o]

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Is it really true that Jaywantabai is responsible for this ??? 😲 😒
How can she take such decision ??
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: debasree04

Is it really true that Jaywantabai is responsible for this ???😲😒
How can she take such decision ??



I do not know about actual history.

But in the show, it was Jaiwantabai who, scared of Dheerbai's threats, asked Rana ji to not to make Pratap the Yuvraj and to send him out of Mewar. And US had to agree because he had given her a boon once - ki aap jo chahe maang lena aur hum aapko inkaar nahi karenge. When US got angry, JB taunted him that would he not honour his commitment being a Rajput? And would he set an example that Rajputs don't keep their word? That made US agree to fulfil her demands.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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As someone mentioned on this forum earlier, Jaywanta played a smart political move.
By taking Pratap out of the running and not letting anyone know it was her that instigated it, the people are at a loss. And as US pointed out, fingers can be raised on Dheerbai now. They probably won't because she's too dear to US, but there's always a possibility. No one would suspect that Jaywanta did it because she's always come across as the loving mother and for a mother to plot against her own blood is considered absurd. No one would suspect Sajjabhai because everyone knows she isn't capable of changing US mind's or even pulling something like that off. It boils down to Bhatiyani who does have the ability to convince US. And if Bhatiyani gets a bad reputation in the eyes of the people, it won't even matter if Jagmal is a good kid or not. Jagmal's reputation will already be tainted by his association with Bhatiyani. And Pratap is already cemented in everyone's hearts and having his right stripped makes him the one to be pitied. And pity votes/ feelings go a LONG way. He's already regarded as a hero-in-the-making. And remember, absence makes the heart grow fonder. I think with his leaving, Pratap's reputation will go up even higher. (and maybe this is the time where he learns all those new war tactics?)

And it doesn't matter when Pratap is crowned as the heir. Changes are always happening on that end. Who knows if Mewar would even last long enough for Pratap to inherit it? At this point, Jaywanta is looking to keep Pratap safe. The safer he is, the most possibility there is that he could come back and reclaim the throne.

And as for teaming up with Sajjabhai, it's useless. Sajjabhai is too meek to do anything on her own. And remember, Dheerbhai's threats aren't to be taken lightly. She came very close to hurting Pratap on two occasions. Who knows if she would've succeeded on her third attempt? And I doubt Pratap would listen to his mother about Dheerbhai being dangerous to him. Yes she could warn him to be more careful, BUT Pratap would NEVER willingly distance himself from Bhatiyani. In his eyes, she's like another mother. That's one of Pratap's qualities, loyalty. The only way he'd ever maybe turn his back on her, is if he found out she hated him. Even then I think he'd just give the throne to Jagmal to make her happy and be sad himself. His priorities have always been to make everyone happy.

Even though I don't necessarily agree with what Jaywanta said, I can see where she is coming from. She always looks to the future and right now, her priority is to keep Pratap safe. And the only way in her eyes to accomplish that, is to have him kept away from Bhatiyani. If anything, I feel bad for her as well because she's taking a big risk and sacrificing so much in the process.

And regarding US, yeah no. Let's not even go there. It's useless.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts! :)
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@ lovely_lady well written 👏
Jaywanta is not the type to get scared and back out by Dheerbai's threat.In Friday's episode Jaywanta asked Pratap if she does ' anyay' to him what he will do ? will he forgive her ? First he says his rani ma can never do any thing wrong. Then he says he will do what his parents have taught him i.e Vidroh ...agar anyay kahi bhi jeeta toh nyay har jagah harega... So right now Jaywanta is rebelling against Rana's decision of the crowning. The outcome of all this would be like you said Dheerbai will get a bad name and the ministers i.e Rawat & Co and the people of Mewar will not allow him to go away from the palace . They will collectively demand for the rajyabhishek ceremony to continue. Now the decision is not in the hands of Jaywanta or US or Dheerbai. The people have decided what they want ...US will be too happy to go along with his subjects and crown Pratap. Jaywanta will give a small victory smile . She won for Pratap but lost US permanantly in the process. Dheer bai will give a constipated expression again.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I'm just frustrated of this track. Can't take it more. It sounds so much like those typical saas bahu shows where plotting takes place every now and then. I miss those good tracks depicting pratap's bravery. Are they rushing to put it to an end soon? I'm very afraid
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Posted: 11 years ago
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@lovely_lady...very well written 👏

I'm thinking now what would happen to Pratap...i mean if he would leave Mewar then where would he stay ?? 😕
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I m really very disappointed with yesterday's episode. And who made me so disappointed??? MAHARANI JAYWANTABAI SONGARA... 😲 😲 I am in love with this character but what she did yesterday was completely unexpected and heart breaking 💔
Why she took such an extreme decision?? Why such an injustice with her own son?? She knows what impact all this will have on Pratap, how badly she had damaged her relation with Uday Singh... 😔

Why she didn't go to someone reliable and discussed this issue? Why she didn't searched for proofs against dat insecured Bhatiyani 🤬??

I wasn't expecting this from Jaywanta. She is not Sajja who will just cry and give up easily. Then whyyy?

I really hope ki JB has something in her mind through which he will get back to dat psycho.

But brilliant performance done by Rajshree and Shakti Anand. I like JB's dialogues where she said ki,
"Aapko humari baat samjhana iska arth samay vyarth karna hai Raanaji. Hum apko apni baat iss janam me toh nahi samjha payenge... "

I really liked that scene. And another good scene was where US unknowingly says d truth to Dheerbai... Dheerbai ki shakal dekhne jaise thi 😛

I know today's epi will be heart wrenching when all this truth will revealed to Pratap 😭 😭

Jaywanta ye tune kya kiya??????????? 😭 😭 💔



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Posted: 11 years ago
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Jaywantabai knows that her husband loves dheerbai a lot and he will not believe her. so that's why she is doing this. and Dheerbai she can harm her own son for her needs then why can't she harm Pratap?
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Posted: 11 years ago
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I sort of see where you're coming from @lovely_lady and @ak75.

Still I think she need not have taken this route. She has already spoiled her relationships with US na? So why couldn't she tell him the truth of Dheerbai, all the instances when she had plotted and all the instances when Pratap had been with her and returned either injured or gotten late for gurukul or escaped death?

I think she also shook off her responsibility earlier. She did not follow Pratap like a shadow as she should have. Otherwise she would have done something to save him in that bulls incident too.

She should have reminded US of all incidents in which Pratap suffered and how each of them related to DB and she should have asked him to himself connect the dots!

She should have told him to believe her and think for himself had she ever said or demanded anything unreasonable for him? She should have told him she was doing all this only to beg for some safety of her son as a mother. DB openly barked even during her delivery. She has threatened so many times. JB is eyewitness. How can she keep quiet?

JB should have written a letter to Raawat and explained the situation to him so that at least they could be more careful of Pratap's security in the mahal and from his own people.

She could have told truth to her brother who is also a courtier in US' court. Together they all could have taken some action or talked to US.

How does she think Pratap will grow brains to be more alert while he is away?! 😲 Somewhere it is her fault too if she made him such a softie who blindly believed family members and failed to recognise threats within even despite warnings! Why couldn't she tell him of how his CM behaves with her and how she hates him and wants him killed? If Pratap won't believe her then I am sorry to say she failed to have a priority status even as a mother! It's a shame that Pratap wouldn't believe her and instead do his chhoti maa jaap!

Being the Maharani, JB could have done anything. Ensured guards for Pratap, enlisted spies to keep eye on DB or asked US to send him elsewhere for further education and training so that he stayed out of DB's reach.

She shook away her responsibility hoping things would get better in future and praja or courtiers will do something.

BUT YES, from yesterday's episode I felt in a way she was right in asking US not to take her name! 😆 US is getting solid and much deserved brickbats from all corners! Sajjabai too smacked him with her words on his mannmaani with kids and failure as father. Raawat ji also gave him an earful. 😉 Kal uski dhulaai dekh mazaa aya!

But how I wish he had known that his dhulaai was due to Dheerbai and not JB! For now he only fumes at JB while the real root cause smiles in victory!

US has given the right idea to Pratap in precap - to gather soldiers and people and rebel against him, overthrow him and claim the throne. But I don't think Pratap has the brain or the balls to do that yet! 😕 He'll be confused and blurt, "Yeh aap kya keh rahe hain? Humein raj gaddi nahin chahiye!" - stupidly not understanding the ploy and being an emotional fool!

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