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anshvi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#81

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@anshvi Sid was Siddhant, how much ever I had wanted him to change sides and say Siddhant Thakur Rajasthan Rifles I knew he had to say truthful to both his names Siddhant the proven theory and Sadiq the faithful. And the character exactly did that, he was faithful to the people who loved him Hussain and Afreen, he saved them from hell giving them a new beginning and as Siddhant he proved why his heart was always saluting the tricolor. POW was brilliant screenplay that stayed true to its script from start to end. Irrespective of its TRP rating it is miles apart from any other show I had seen in contemporary television.
Coming to Maya, what is Maya only time will tell. Because once you know what is Maya then it is show's end. As it is her story. Yesterday also I loved it was Ayan who asked her, how do you win always. Because somewhere I feel he is the one who can check mate her also. His need to understand how she wins and she told also how she wins. I just hope he applies it.

Agree with you about Sid and P.O.W.

That show is miles ahead of normal tv shows

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Laska

@Laska

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Posted: 7 years ago

#82

@shruthiravi, but Maya not pushed Dusky to Duffer. Maya just came to Ganesha. The man who was walking next to Maya, pushed Dusky to Duffer. Maya came just to Ganesha. To the only one who gave her the hope of love. It was only hope, Ganesha, as if teasing her, gave her love, but it was not love, but a hypocritical fake. Only to those who didn't have anything incredibly difficult to leave even this not true, fake, hypocritical, but such a heartfelt gift, the only cherished dream

Duffer said, "Here come two types of people - some who have problems, the second ones are those who brings problems for others, and then coming here cry and make drama"

Duffer decided that Maya belongs to the second type of people...

I don't think that he can see anything else...

Everyone read to Maya morality about love. Everyone said loud pathos speeches. But in no one is it possible to see love. None

Their world is really strange. This is a horrible world, with which better never meet at all. The world without sympathy, without compassion, without humanity, without good, without borders and limits. Evil selfish merciless world. Beyhadh world, which almost anyone will tighten in an irrevocably black hole, from which there is no way out

Perhaps, many can connects with Ayan, but not me. I don't even know who repels Ayan or Duffer more. Although more loathsome Duffer. But Ayan against this background doesn't become more normal, nor sane, nor good. He's rotten. They are both the worst men that a girl can ever meet on her way. Neither one nor the other doesn't respect girls. In such an excellent way they were upbringing by VM

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#83

@Laska Maya didnt ask love from Ganesha, she asked Arjun, he gave her Arjun. She says I asked for Arjun, you gave me Arjun Thank you. Colors Arjun put, he bought her to shanti spot. Maya thought colors, peace and her cure will come through Arjun. But then that was the biggest Maya or illusion of her life. Just like she thought protecting Jhanvi she will get her mother's love. Jhanvi wanted Ashwin and Ashwin wanted the money, Arjun wants Dusky and luxury given by Maya. His choice was always dusky. It was clear in mandap when Arjun got up and hugged Dusky. Any sane bride would have left the mandap then and there itself. Atleast she should have gone after the fire burning incident.

Now it almost looks like Ashwin- Jhanvi-Shipra, she is behaving like Jhanvi but in a different way.

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DeadShot

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Posted: 7 years ago

#84

yaah .ayan this time is very careful of his steps..he sure going make plans with arjun..that's why arjun is doing the stomach ache drama..and escapes..he fights with goons of maya..then maybe we're going to watch..last episode.. Duffer saving his Duskey and both of them getting married cute story..🤢 anyway i am just wondering why maya is wearing the locket? it looks like the photo holder necklace..what is insdie that necklace? if they wanted to show extra relevation of story beyhadh in short time. they have to show at least 1 or 2 maha episodes of beyhadh..in saturday...show story might not get absurd looking ending..or maybe unfinished..if they don't do something and going what is predictible then i swear..i never watch any sony programs..b'coz sony always do something like with their show..for example..Anamika.she waited 300+ long..for her soul mate..and in the end she got killed🤢

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shwetha

@siri456

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Posted: 7 years ago

#85

shruthi i was really waiting for ur analysis and i completely agree to u ..this was ur best post for me till now i was always confused with the symbolism they showed in first episode now its clear to me this is what arjun said when he kept maya's scarf in the jeep that this will be useful for cleaning purpose...and this is what maya does cleans others dirt... in ayan case also it was not maya who defeated saanjh but it was her own ego she got defeated her ego was very clearly shown when she said "truth is there where i'm" ..because of this she got defeated...i always expected saanjh to come over her obsession and show the right path..because among arjun, saanjh, maya she was the one who had a perfect family but she didn't come over her obsession..that's why i'm not able to feel sympathy for her today..

shruthi i strongly recommend u if possible watch the movies of Puttanna kanagal(a legendary kannada film director) he even directed few movies in malayalam and tamil but i don't remember those names..his majority of movies were released in 1970-80 but his thoughts and subjects were advance compare to those era his majority movies was women centric and based on mental illness...his most of the movies were adopted by novels but the way he used to show onscreen was commendable..when i used to watch his movies in my schooldays i was never able to connect to his movies but now i wonder how he used to make movies on those kind of subjects that too in that period,..some of his movies i really want u to watch are 'Gejjepooje'(anklet worship which means mock marriage in the movie),Sharapanjara(cage of arrows), 'Manasa sarovara', 'Naagarahaavu'(this movie beautifully explains the relationship between a student and teacher)

Edited by siri456 - 7 years ago

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Lecter

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Posted: 7 years ago

#86

The best thing that can happen to maya is her death. But will it be the same for the others characters? As samay said: maya you don't need anyone but others need you.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

Stunner

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Posted: 7 years ago

#87

@siri Maya doesnt know love, but she knows dirt, she understands dirt, because she has lived in dirt. I dont like dirt, Arjun tells she is dirt and she shows dirt on others, which they think are on her. Remember she says I keep proof of my crimes so that someone will see it and hear my voice and help me. I had wondered what it means. It meant will someone help her to clear up dirt, will someone hear her voice and clean up the dirt inside them so that she does not have to clean up.

Yesterday's episode reminded me of Durga's dialogue in EHT when she decides to marry Shaurya. Keechad ko saaf karne keliye keechad mein uttarna padtha hai. If you have to clean dirt, you can stand on the shore and give orders. You have to get into it, get yourself dirty, then only you can remove dirt.

I dont know much abt Kannada movies, will check if I can get with subtitles.

@factficitonmyth u will see Maya ka sach 😆😆. Ab baat safai ki aayi hai to if you do cleaning you will get dirty, it's a truth. Those who stand on the shore and shout and never gets their hands dirty always look clean, but dont feel clean😆😆

@Lecter Maya's death is Arjun's victory that is what Maya says. Will it happen😆😆

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Lecter

@Lecter

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Posted: 7 years ago

#88

Shruti I don't want her death but if it should happen I'm ok. I want her to turn her back on arjun forever. Forget that he exists (I would never have thought he was a 2nd ashwin).

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Laska

@Laska

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Posted: 7 years ago

#89

@shruthiravi, Dusky to Duffer pushed Rajiv, not Maya

Maya asked Duffer from Ganesha, but Maya asked much later. Why did Ganesha bring Duffer to Maya's life? He knew what it would all lead to, he knew what Duffer would do to Maya. Then why? For what? Why even more tears, pain and suffering in her life? Why did he listen to Dusky and give Duffer all-all-everything? Why did he give Maya to Duffer who would destroy her?

There was never any love in her life. Never. Jhanvi and Duffer are all the biggest and hypocritical lies in Maya's life. The two biggest fatal deadly illusions. Two irrevocable, without a chance of salvation, ways to death

Why did Ganesha give both Dusky and Duffer what they wanted and asked? To kill this unfortnunate girl in an even more cruel way?

If the second way doesn't give any life, then why, for what? Why save her on that way, if this way leads also there, but only through even bigger, more terrible and painful tears, pain and suffering?

Maya had to die then. At once. Then she could die, at least with the illusion that someone had fallen in love with her. Now she will die knowing that no one has ever loved her. Wounded. Torn to pieces. Burned to ashes. Without hope. Without light. From darkness to even more greater darkness

Why did Ganesha do this to her? Hell, it was humane to kill her much earlier. Kill immediately after birth. So at least she would not sufferings so much

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 7 years ago

#90

@Laska I dont know about Beyhadh, I dont know abt Maya but as a general principle I know this much. The most difficult situations and moral conflicts are given by God to those whom he believes has the ability to over come them. It is given to those who look for possibility even in darkness and can show path even in darkness.

Only diamond sustains friction, only gold comes out of fire shining more. Only a person with inherent strength can sustain the hardships put on them, walk through the fire and still come out shining.

But it need not be necessary every person will understand diamond or gold. As the saying goes jowri ki jaane heere ki parakh. Only a learned person knows the difference between ordinary stone and diamond. For others diamond is also stone.

Sita is said to be Mahalakshmi, what did the people of Ayodhya see in their queen who had completed Agnipareeksha successfully. Dirt. The dirt in their minds they saw it on her. The impurity in their minds made the most pious and pure woman, impure and they got her banished by their king. Ram killed a Ravan, but the hypocrite society of Ayodhya made Ravan win by seperating their pregnant queen from the king. That's the eyes of people who cant see Mahalakshmi or Narayan if they stand in front of them. And they claim to know God, worship God but cant accept God's decision, because then they are Gods, they know what is right.

So if your thoughts are impure, even in Mahalakshmi you will see dirt only. If your thoughts are pure, even in a rag picker you will be able to see Mahalakshmi.

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