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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

Fragrance but the message doesnt explicitly tell delete video. what I understood of the message was how with you the message is floating with prem stop him.she might have meant email but it could have been interrupted as stop prem somehow. @sunithi prem death was heartbreaking. He was a good man, noble man. He didn't deserve this. It is said that sometime a parent has to exert his authority. His mistake was allowing dusky to be in India when arjun asked her.he should have spoken to arjun. Put him in place and then taken saanj to Singapore without listening to vandana and Suman.it would have been bitter for saanj.But sometimes too much sweet can kill u.But that was not prem nature. He only knew to give love. He only knew to trust.


May be she did a mistake this time. Actually her thoughts were more with Arjun, their baby, Arjun's words and advice to her to leave the path of evil for ever. She never thought that Samay would take such an extreme step.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@fragrance a mistake that has led to a crime with a past that has done crimes. In a way this will end Maya. Her past has that much power to deny her a final chance. She has to fight past with the power of her love. She needs to know why Ganesh took her first child. She has to know her friend plan for her. That first baby is the key.i will wait for the moment the illusion lifts. Where love wins against time.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Shruti di what's Ur take on god taking Maya 1st child???
Power of Love is her baby only right,Arya mentioning their pyaar as their child...


When illusion breaks,Maya would be lost ??samay would be gone??is there any chance samay confess against maya..
u ve mentioned,as blood spalshed on Maya picture while saanj cutting the picture,blame would fall on Maya...same way when Ashwin died,as per promo blood split on Maya face..is that mean,still some1 else playing along??if it is samay,there is a chance Maya is not aware of his killer instinct...but Maya didn't show any surprise when Arjun mentioned her about Prem death..she jux realised samay killed him..


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Posted: 8 years ago
@shruthiravi, Maya wrote to destroy the video, no? Whereas Prem's death? At this point, Samay made an excellent move - he killed Prem, supposedly for Maya, but the video still exists
Returning to the case of Ayan. I still can not understand why the CVs unfolded it all this way? Ayan in any case should be in prison, let's say can change the criminal provision. But this doesn't change the fact that Ayan committed a crimem, and he must be in jail
What gets on the nerves most of all, is that Ayan can be in jail on the accusation received without the participation of any Samay. Enough video records, and testimony. An experienced lawyer will cope with this
Ayan's excuses about the keys burn with a blue flame in his own threats, during the attack
These threats were quite specific

As for Samay, now his character is disappointing. He was waiting for more than three years, watching. He did not leave the shadows. He found Dusky, through Dusky returned. Began to earn trust. And then suddenly trivial blackmail and threats. This isn't a mind's game. It's just a banal blackmail and threats. It is clear that he will drag Maya back that the charge will fall on her
But what will it give to him? Maya will trust Samay? No. Samay will save Maya? No. All this leads to a banal kidnapping, wrong accusation, or the forced Maya to leave Duffer to save his life
Duffer leaves Maya, because Maya is bad. The weathervane unfolds again. He takes Dusky's side. Too pretty trivial, the second part still remains - Samay killed, because of him accused Maya, etc.

With first child. When Maya thought she had made a mistake. She didn't accept it, but tried to get around it. There she had to make a choice. Duffer had to go for a walk for good
As a result, Dusky took away the child. Duffer took away Ganesha. And Maya was left all alone
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: shruthiravi

I really want to put one more thing today. Someone had mocked my analysis 2-3 week back telling I called Prem Abhimanyu, and why in the world he should die.

To the TM I only have a humble request to make. Do disagree with anyone's perspective, but learn to be courteous and a bit more respectful to other's thought process. If someone tell something they have a reason they are telling so. It can be right, it can be wrong as all of us are humans. But dont make judgement thinking only your analysis is correct.
In season 1 as early as Nov-Dec I had predicted Prem's death which I told will change the story arc.

Now why I compared Prem to Abhimanyu. I will give answers for that also. I need some more episodes. I need to see some more choices. But I will give.


Shruti, if you are referring to me, I'd like to say something...

In hindsight, I realise that my argument appeared offensive, but it was unintentional...nevertheless, I'd to apologise since I offended you...I'm sorry for having offended you...

Having said that, I'd like to add that very often things are said in good humour n are supposed to be taken in good humour...it's not always that one wants to mock...

Also, I stand by my statement that Prem can in no way be compared to Abhimanyu, just because he died...Abhimanyu was a skilled warrior who actively fought the war while prem was an innocent bystander in this entire tale...for that matter, you also said that SAMAY was Lord Krishna...so what about that?

Anyways, my point is just that though teachings of the BG & MB can be applicable to most situations in life n shows, each character in every tale CANNOT be compared to characters of MB...

Anyways, to each his/her own.,,.😊...peace...
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Posted: 8 years ago
I am completely disappointed with the show.

Shruthi di your analysis about Saanjh I agree to almost everything. Yes it's true she doesn't want Arjun, and saving Ayan is her goal. She has started to trust and maybe even love Samay. But along with this she has her own reasons as well. She can't accept that her Duffer has become Maya Arjun Sharma's hubby , who chooses his wife over his mother, brother and friend.
She definitely holds a grudge against Maya hence she went to announce her victory over her in the hospital.. her character has always been like that, a competitive nature against Maya... And these mistakes only led to her loosing her priceless possession, her father! Sigh!!


Coming to Arjun, Shruthi di is it right for Arjun to forgive Maya for everything, just because she's "ill" n she's his "Jaan". Even Ayan was his "Jaan" but he threw him in jail. But for Maya he is forgiving everything. I would not have said anything if for Ayan he did the same, he could have easily have an out of court agreement. But he chose to be "great" . But now he's being selfish.
He reminds me of those doormat wives who side with their hubby's no matter what crime they commit. n still they keep doing Pati Parmeshwar jaap. (Here by crime I mean romantic manhandling in love hate stories 😆)

I was the one who had said that I would love to see Arjun accepting Maya at the end, but not like this. I wanted Maya to complete her term in jail n get treatment done etc n then finally Arjun accepting her. That would have been true love. Right now it's not true love, it's blind worship.

Maya has disappointed me so much!

I have my own doubts if she was genuine in her scene with Arjun. Her expressions suddenly changed when Arjun said he will always be with her, she also told abt some mistake of hers, most probably told abt her pointing gun towards VM n Saanjh. But yes I believe she's pregnant this time. She always wanted a child (in the beginning of S2) to bind Arjun with her, then why she started crying when she actually got pregnant. Hence I can't say she was genuine. That crying was mostly was to make Arjun forgive her for pointing gun towards VM n Saanjh. Or maybe if she's having some MPD/alter ego issues.

This time it's not wrong to say Maya is not at fault, it was Samay's call to kill Prem.
But when Arjun told her about Prem's death, she actually rejoiced it by saying let 100 people die but Arjun should not know about her bad side!

And yes Shruthi di agree fully on what u wrote at Maya getting trapped in a case where she's not fully wrong but that will make her pay for her past something which she did with Ayaan.


Nd one last thing, this woman on wheelchair, she kept siding with her criminal hubby n ignored her child,why can't she now side with Maya? I would have not said anything to her if she did the same with Ashwin. But why being hypocrite?
Edited by aditi97 - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
What arjun doing is not right aditi.That cannot cure Maya. As you rightly said he is like a hubby who support everything wife does.I guess I put that in day before episode analysis or so.and with arjun Maya won't get cure as she says she won't allow arjun to go away. Child is forgotten. She will go back to her ways if arjun continues be in her life. She is unable to control impulses. When she hold arjun cheek she remembers slap.She oscillates between that less than 9 year old and 9 year old. That less than 9 year has to go and we need to see what bad and mad Maya does. This is a crucial point of story.veil is not lifted.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@laska this is a crucial point of show where everyone can get disappointed. But it depends on where Cvs take the show from this point we need to see whether disappointment continues or something better would come.
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Posted: 8 years ago
Guys what is Maya the metaphor. It is the facade all of us have. We have to look good. If we do something bad there is reason, justification. Fingers pointed outside not inward. When does change happen.when fingers pointed inwards. When we accept we have selfishness, ego, anger and such thamasic quality within us.when we know this the same thamasic quality can be used for constructive purpose. At this point Maya problem is her childhood and every one else it is Maya. Everyone has to realize what happens to them is their own action. No one else is responsible for it. Then action changes. That happens when dance of time and illusion breaks. When power of love wins against power of time. Need to see whether that point come
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Posted: 8 years ago
@khushi I was not comparing. I am only referring to mb. Only to the concept not the literal sense of character. There is a lot of difference between 2. When I see mb war I don't see any God at first. I only see 2 friends Krishna and arjun.at one point one becomes God of another with his action. He defeats power of time with power of love. That point has no dialogue but you will feel the point. When I read Ramayana it is husband and wife. At one point the husband becomes God for his wife with his action. Pati becomes parameshwar.That point also u don't need dialogue. The moot point is if you can recognize the point where power of love conquers power of time in these epics you will get a path to live path to manage relations. Most important you will get the wisdom of what is the meaning of being God. Wisdom that we cannot be that we can be only humans and will help us to stop making judgement on anyone or anything. So wherever I see power of love vs power of time mb comes as a reference.

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