Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131

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sunithi

@sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#141

Originally posted by: aditi97

She did stage a part of it. Like seeing Ayaan coming from ambulance. Tying Arjun so that he doesn't interfere. Morning he is untied. Police right on time. These things imply the fact.
But Ayaan went overboard nd there's no justification to that. If he behaved properly, Maya would not have accused him for attempt to rape. But his physical assault made her humiliated n scared.

Maya's character is not a saint. But she isn't any as evil or irredeemable as few say. She's mentally disturbed. I don't think her past should be used as an excuse for her. That just makes me sympathise with her. But the self obsessed ppl around her like Arjun who isn't taking her to psychiatrist is at fault. And ppl like Vandana n Saanjh too who don't even sympathise with her condition.

agree part of it she staged it..What did she try??

She doesn't like any1 touching her becox of Ashwin..His physical assualt left that deep scar he doesn't like any1 touching her expect Arjun .That's want Arjun said,don't touch her to Ayaan..key was not in her jacket but in her hand..What did Ayan tried to do ??

..Maya doesn't like any1 to touch her,how would ve she staged rape.what she was expecting Ayan to do..Physically assualt her or something..I am not getting what's her plan..

I agree with She would ve tampered cctv..

She didn't like their private things to get published on public,then y would she called police..If Arjun saved her from Ayan,it could be better option than calling police..

These things make me believe samay is the one who brought police..

Medical report I agree with you..she would ve tried to defend herself by self harming little more and altered the report..Self harming is her way of defending herself..

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#142

@poornima there are couple of things that has left me confused. Samay the metaphor and Samay the man is one responsible for confusion. And his job is just that, that also I know 😆😆😆. What he is upto is under a cloud.

Samay tells if she can leave the cycle of competition and come out he will wait for her. But what if she is not leaving the cycle of competition. Saanjh says forgetting is not easy. If Saanjh doesnt leave cycle of competition then Samay the man and Samay the metaphor will go for Maya?

Samay the man is with Maya. He already told he is willing to drink poison for Maya. But the metaphor I guess is still with Saanjh and maybe the man will also come if she can let go of Arjun. As it was after she chose Arjun and went to meet him, Samay goes to meet Maya.

Second question. CVs always show Maya's plan, her manipulations. But they didnt show her thoughts after the miscarriage. So once again question. Was Maya really pregnant and was that miscarriage true.

Again the murders. If CVs can show us everything why not the murders, there is no big deal to it, if their only plan is to reveal Maya did it in the end. Let us know upfront, then it will only be how Saanjh will unravel it or prove it. I feel people adore Maya the character and the way Jenny carries it. No one is expecting any mahanta from her 😆😆.

Then they are 2-3 contradicting symbolisms. Maya's duppatta falling on Arjun's eyes. Saanjh removes it. But Arjun doesnt throw it away though she asks him to throw it. Instead he keeps it behind him telling it can be used for cleaning 😆😆

Maya's one earring which dusky gives back. It doesnt add up if Saajun is the end game.

Dusky's punishment will be given by time if she doesnt leave the path of competition. Somehow defeat Maya than get justice for Ayan.

If she doesnt leave competition she will become the quintessential Karna of MB. His only flaw was his competition with Arjun, his need to defeat Arjun who is praised by everyone. He kept all his arsenal for Arjun. It was so obvious that Krishna finally takes the power from his hand. Karna any day was more talented was Arjun, but then the unhealthy competition with Arjun did him in along with calling Panchali a prostitute in infamous hall of dice.

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Vrinda Sharma

@rendezvousvin

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#143

Excellent post Shruti. Today Samay scared me. He proved today that he is here only for Maya and his love is Beyhadh as Maya. It will be interesting to see to Beyhadh people clashing with each other. Its a quadrangle now. Maya loves Arjun Beyhadly, Samay loves Maya Beyhadhly. Till now Arjun didn't love Maya (not even in Phase 1 IMO) completely and Saanjh didn't love Samay completely. But Now Arjun has started to love Maya slowly and Saanjh started to love Samay slowly. The problem is Samay and Maya knows very clearly whom they love respectively, but Arjun and Saanjh are still not clear. There is still a confusion in both their hearts. Beyhadh has come to an interesting point.

I felt bad for Vandana today. She is truly alone now. She cursed Arjun that he'll be all alone till he stays with Maya, but that curse came upon herself today. Saanjh and Mathur family were the greatest support she had and today Saanjh left her hand. Ayaan is in Jail and Arjun chose to stay with Maya. She doesn't have anyone now. For Saanjh it was never a fight of justice for Ayaan, it was always a fight to prove Maya bad and mad. She chose to let go off the competition listening to Samay's word, but Samay asked her to follow the path of justice (Justice for Ayaan) but she chose to let go off the fight itself.

So Arjun can make Maya do whatever he wishes. She is happily eating Aloo ka paratha and feeding him too. Arjun is the only one who can show Maya the right path, if he decides to. But he is so self-engrossed that he is not willing to help her or see that she is having some kind of problems.

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@TheUnique

Rocker

Posted: 8 years ago

#144

I don't believe this!!! How could Saanjh thinks to stay out of Sharna family now of all times!!! This is the time she chooses to listen to her parents after all these years!!! Matlab move away from Arjun means abandon the whole Sharna family!! So basically her interest in Sharma family revolved around only Arjun!!! Shouldn't she make an appeal for Ayaan that instead of attempt to rape he should be convicted under assault and trespassing!!! Shouldn't she be thinking about his bail! But the girl completely abandons Sharna family now of all times!!! Is Arjun everything for her... doesn't Ayaan friendship mean anything! Itni din Toh ma baap ki baat nahi mani... Now of all times she decides to listen to them!!!

So Samay is indeed Desi Collins it seems!! Desi was stupid but Samay seems to be as dangerous as Maya!!!

Maya and her men... Arjun and Samay! Who does she love really or does she even love any one of them?

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#145

@astha everyone thinks Maya has won. But for me everytime she wins like this she is losing. Because her thoughts and paths are not getting corrected. She still feels only manipulation can give her happiness, that is her experience and no one so far has been able to change that perception of her. She needs one person who will go beyhadh for her. I mean for her. Maya goes beyhadh for Jhanvi and Arjun. Arjun might go beyhadh for Ayan, Saanjh is also beyhadh for Arjun. If Maya has to see light, someone has to be beyhadh for her. That's why I am looking at Samay. He is beyhadh for her.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#146

My dearest readers why in the world you all had to go and battle it out in the other thread. We can only manage our actions. If we believe we have not done anything wrong what is the need to justify. I had put an apology if it hurt someone, why you guys didnt stop there. Look how many pages it has gone now with mindless arguments. Now most probably they are going to report most of my threads as I have used concept of MB here and there. What should I do now. Stop writing itself😭. I can never insult MB or Ramayana. They are part of me

Edited by shruthiravi - 8 years ago

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poornima_15

@poornima_15

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#147

Shruthi ... I am a constant reader of your post from the begining of beyhadh in this forum even though I don't constantly comment but i do read them all ...

I won't say i agree to all your points but yes few i agree and few i disagree( regarding your posts for the the characters of the show)

I would just say you continue writing what you are doing because it's your perspective and your analysis Everyone have their different perspective... Until unless you have not done anything wrong and you trust your analysis their is no need to worry ...

There are always few people who will agree with us and few who won't agree for the second category you dont need to worry ... And for the first category they will always be waiting for your analysis ...

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

Sparkler

Posted: 8 years ago

#148

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
My dearest readers why in the world you all had to go and battle it out in the other thread. We can only manage our actions. If we believe we have not done anything wrong what is the need to justify. I had put an apology if it hurt someone, why you guys didnt stop there. Look how many pages it has gone now with mindless arguments. Now most probably they are going to report most of my threads as I have used concept of MB here and there. What should I do now. Stop writing itself😭. I can never insult MB or Ramayana. They are part of me

Shruthi di, I am personally very thick skinned to any kind of bashing now, so I didn't bother to comment on your thread because I could see just baseless mud slugging nd nothing else.

But this kind of bashing is a part of any good writer. Please don't get disheartened. You know that u didn't do anything wrong then why should you stop writing. And there are many readers who love ur analysis. 😊

About post getting reported, I think only the separate post u made abt MB characters might get closed that too if mods feel like, as that post doesn't have any bashing.

But this thread can't get closed by rule as u have already put a disclaimer that u will be making reference to MB n Ramayana. If someone argues, u can use it as an argument. 😛Moreover everyone has a right to express their opinions.

Abt episode

Shruthi di I completely agree with ur analysis on Maya. I think she isn't the murderer of Pandit etc. Because the thrill factor goes off. And like u said , Maya just thinks, but she doesn't actually kill. She is capable of killing, but we aren't sure whether she actually killed or not.

But we can't say till CVs clear everything. Only one track which has been completely shown was rape attempt track. And we know Maya staged it. So waiting for more revelations. And now Samay is there so he can also be one of the killers.

Btw Shruti Di your earlier analysis abt Arya baby is highly possible. Saanjh gave Arya pendant to Maya but she refused, but maybe later Maya has to give Arya baby to Saanjh.. But don't want Maya to die😕.. want her to atone herself

Abt Saanjh n Suman I beg to differ. Though I kind of didn't like the way Saanjh behaved with Vandana yesterday as Vandana didn't deserve it. But I think today she n Suman came because they realized the case has gone to extremes. Hence came to meet her, not to show Arjun that they are Vandana's family.

Suman just speaks what she sees. The day Saanjh was wrong, she scolded her, she spoke to Vandu abt Arjun probably going behind Maya's money n him being a wife beater... today when Maya is wrong, she's after her. More than Maya Suman was after Arjun, that was the best thing. Arjun is the one who is the cause of all problems imo. He couldn't handle his wife or mother or bro.

Another interesting thing was Maya n Saanjh face off, it was bang on. Saanjh said Maya will be alone. But I feel in this game at the end even Saanjh will be left alone in the same position as Maya. She will lose her innocence as Pandit predicted... Maya held Saanjh's hand but Saanjh removed it telling this time Saanjh won't extend a helping hand to her, but fight it out.

Maya taking Vandana to home is I think because she genuinely wants to keep Arjun's faith. But Vandana is surely upto something. She'll be playing Maya's games on Maya.

Edited by aditi97 - 8 years ago

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Posted: 8 years ago

#149

@aditi - I agree with everything you said except I can't find Saanjh mahaan or good at all. I can't even compare her with other actual and real mahaan female leads. I have liked Geet, Jodha, and few others, so it's not like I can't like Mahaan or actual white characters. Even if those real mahaan characters were too good to be real, they were rarely hypocrites and wrong. Even those few times of their hypocrisy were not to the extreme levels like Saanjh's where at least one episode doesn't pass without her hypocrisy and wrongs. Those characters were never evil. They never tried to wreck a couple's house or said let the girl die and let her heart break just because that girl liked that same guy you liked and dared to propose him. And no, she didn't just say in anger. She meant it because when later suman also says he should've let her die, she again didn't say anything at all to stop her meaning she didn't care and meant when she had said the same earlier. That's why I didn't feel bad for her to have a heartbreak because she wished this exact thing on Maya saying let her heart break in love.

Sometimes I think if the writers spent all time or most of their to focus writing Maya's character that they forgot to write other characters well because Jenny keep saying how they were worried if audience will accept Maya's character and how then writers had to spent a lot of time on Mayas character. So it's either the writers were busy focusing on Maya's character because they knew it was complex, so they had to spend time to make sure it gets accepted by audience especially since it's female lead character as grey. While for others they thought they will be so called good and will be accepted anyway by the audience, so they didn't think they needed time to spend on other characters. Either this is the reason OR they made saanjh and Vandana's characters poor on purpose and made their characters having extreme wrongs or evils under the fake mahaanta just so Maya looks better in comparison and/or Maya is seen justified in her actions. Even Arjun's character is no better except that he doesn't pretend mahaanta at least. He too is flirticious, has extremely inappropriate physical closeness with saanhj under the disguise of friendship, etc all which again makes Maya's justified in her actions as a wife.

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OriginalsFan

@OriginalsFan

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

#150

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@Ashi I feel Samay knows Maya. See Saanjh says she is going behind Arjun everywhere, Arjun cannot be alone. See Maya has obsession, but if we leave that part why Saanjh is worried about Maya going behind Arjun. Maya is Arjun's wife. She has the right to go behind him, she has the right to ask him questions.
Arjun doesnt trust Maya with VM. Maybe he doesnt trust VM to obey Maya's rules and he knows what happens when rules are broken. Also he wants Saanjh back in his life. This is where it hurts Maya and this is where Arjun has to learn a lesson too.

I think that lesson Arjun will only learn when he will see Maya and Samay together. There is a spoiler saying he is gonna catch them in intimate conversation. It might be Arjun will hear Samay trying to convince Maya to come back to him😆😆

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