Dance of Time and Illusion ( Episode Analysis)Part 30updated DTNTPg131

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sumz_d

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Posted: 8 years ago

#131

Originally posted by: _Darling_
Wait, when and where did Arjun tie Maya? It was in the episode or precap?😕 I didn't see that part.

Also, did someone notice Saanjh was smiling when Arjun went towards Ayaan. I felt so puky worthy seeing that smile and happiness. She expected and thought Arjun is going towards Ayaan and thought Arjun is on their side, but the smile stopped once Arjun attacked Ayaan. For her, what matters is Arjun on her side and not that mad Maya . She goes completely blind when it comes to Arjun. Unconsciously, she despreraly wants Arjun to separate from Maya forever even if she think she doesn't and thinks she's just being so called righteous. But all her actions point toward her wanting Arjun separated from Maya. She was surprised Arjun siding with Maya, and her smile stopped. Then she became angry and egoistic after that, and all then she cared was to won this case and prove Maya wrong and Arjun as well. She didn't even care about Ayaan. Remember last time too she thought she is saving Ayaan from jail when he was jailed for some drug case. But as soon as when it was Maya who saved him, Saanjh didn't even become happy for the sake of Ayaan and was instead sad that it was Maya who took the limelight. Her character, sensibility and any goodness, and professionalism goes away when it comes to Arjun. Then she doesn't care about anything. Whether her morals, her sense of right and wrong, her parents, etc, nothing makes a difference for her.

Yes he had tied Maya. After Arjun goes away from the police station to home. Then they showed Arjun had tied Maya up and she was struggling with the ropes. Arjun apologised to Maya and said that it was for her own safety. He didn't want Maya to take a drastic step. And then as soon as Arjun untied Maya she again went to jump off the terrace.

PS: See how perspectives change. If it was ok for Arjun to tie up Maya then it was ok for Maya to house arrest Jhanvi in the past isnt it? Since both had good intentions of protecting one's life.

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Nithunavi

@Nithunavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#132

Originally posted by: _Darling_
Wait, when and where did Arjun tie Maya? It was in the episode or precap?😕 I didn't see that part.

Also, did someone notice Saanjh was smiling when Arjun went towards Ayaan. I felt so puky worthy seeing that smile and happiness. She expected and thought Arjun is going towards Ayaan and thought Arjun is on their side, but the smile stopped once Arjun attacked Ayaan. For her, what matters is Arjun on her side and not that mad Maya . She goes completely blind when it comes to Arjun. Unconsciously, she despreraly wants Arjun to separate from Maya forever even if she think she doesn't and thinks she's just being so called righteous. But all her actions point toward her wanting Arjun separated from Maya. She was surprised Arjun siding with Maya, and her smile stopped. Then she became angry and egoistic after that, and all then she cared was to won this case and prove Maya wrong and Arjun as well. She didn't even care about Ayaan. Remember last time too she thought she is saving Ayaan from jail when he was jailed for some drug case. But as soon as when it was Maya who saved him, Saanjh didn't even become happy for the sake of Ayaan and was instead sad that it was Maya who took the limelight. Her character, sensibility and any goodness, and professionalism goes away when it comes to Arjun. Then she doesn't care about anything. Whether her morals, her sense of right and wrong, her parents, etc, nothing makes a difference for her.

I noticed that and felt same as like u, it was disgusting.

She wants actually whatevr the reasons may be arjun should support ayaan and her not the truth. Then when arjun was into supporting maya & for justice the Devi ego hurted and she said some awful things like "your wife is pagal who has staged all this". Honest she is more into winning the case and prove maya mad & bad & see the professionalism she had got without any enquiries or lo

Proofs she declared the victim is ayaan.

And wasn't she the one who went after arjun & to his office even after so much of warning from everyone in the house ,but now blaming arjun for coming back. The girl needs someone who can show mirror of her actions. I'm fed up of her 'imalwaysright' attitude.

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sunithi

@sunithi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#133

Exactly laska..What power that VM has..Such a hypocrite lady..Whenever they show her,that's the only time I feel bad for Arjun..I can connect with that 6year old boy who yearned for mom's love..VM is the only reason still I sympathize with Arjun..She speaks rubbish..She and saanj together is horrible to watch..How easily she let out curse..God some1 plz teach her curse will not only make others to suffer and also come back to her as karma.I hope her sob stories come out..I am not sure how she will pay her price but she needs to pay a heavy price..

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Jane

@janecastle

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Posted: 8 years ago

#134

So Saanjh proved today that all the values her parents instilled in her has gone down the drain. Today by stopping Samay she tried to stop the truth from coming out. She proved that she knows Maya is right this time but she'll bend the truth the way she want to so as to put down Maya. So the question is "What does she want from her life?"

Her's is one character that was always shown as unprofessional in the show. Even with all the attraction for wealth and power, Arjun still loved his job with a passion. Maya was always a professional lady. But Saanjh is one character who go around lecturing others without actually doing anything in her life.

The problem with Saanjh is that she's always wearing a mask in front of the world. Inside her she's just a jealous and obsessed girl. But she flaunts that mask so effectively that everyone believes her.

Maya was truly traumatized today. You cannot fake that kind of fear. The FB's she got are proof of that. Maya was always a woman dedicated to her husband. So the experience she had with Ayaan must be truly disturbing for her.

Let's see how the truth going to play out. Saanjh can try to bend the truth or hide the truth but it is going to come out one day for sure. That day she's not only going to lose her respect as a lawyer but also the loving parents she have because Prem for one will never support what his daughter is doing right now.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#135

@poppins atleast for 2-3 weeks we will have to tolerate the court drama that I am sure. See Saanjh thinks she can finish the case in one day as she is confident Maya wont do medical. But medical report will come, then Saanjh will have to up her ante to prove that wrong. That's what I can glean from yesterday episode.

@Peralta with each passing episode Saanjh is hitting new low and her personal vendeta comes out than the need for justice

@Delz Saanjh doesnt know the coat Samay has given to Maya. I am waiting how that coat will play out

@jane if she had it in her, she should have dared Samay to give his statement and then with evidence proved it wrong. Stopping someone from giving evidence shows what are your values. This is not Prem Mathur and Suman Mathur had taught her. More than Maya's mask, I am interested to see the extend Saanjh Mathur is going to win the case

@Misty Dusky is Arjun's friend, she would have been really emphatheic to Arjun, but Saanjh is Maya's enemy who wants to defeat Maya at any cost doesnt matter even her friend burns in it. Did she question Arjun as Dusky. All the information Arjun had trusted Dusky with she spilled the same in the court in the name of vendatta, in public view. Coming to Maya she always had the plan of trapping Ayan with physical assault but FB shows she didnt expect molestation. Medical test will happen. To see any marks on the body, to collect forensic evidence. Hair, nail tips etc etc.. In case of Maya the neck bite, it will be cross checked with Ayan's teeth. And doctor tells it is important it has to be done within 24 hrs. Samay we will wait and watch. He said he wont come to court. He knows he is not needed. Case will go on 😆😆

@sweetshruti Misty writes beautifully she should make seperate posts

@Nithu dont expect any professionalism, Saanjh will show the mirror of how a rape victim is harassed in the court

@joja Saanjh is a character. I need to see the extend she will go to win. Samay wont come till the last shred of clothing is there on Maya. When Saanjh is about to pull that his cloak will come to protect her. That scene was significant. Because when Maya told that in front of police he didnt need that cloak, she still had decent clothing, still the cloak comes evident that for that accusation she is going to be disrobed

@sumz Saanjh knows everything. She has a very high moral ground.

@Nietzy this track will lay the foundation of the final track. Do watch it, it is interesting.

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shruthiravi

@shruthiravi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#136

@aditi why didnt call Arjun of Beyhadh as Arjuna of MB instead Yudhi is for the following reasons

- Arjuna didnt know dharma, he believed as a son he has to listen to his mother, as a brother he has to listen to Yudhi, should not allow his sister to be a widow. if you look at Bhima and Arjuna in the infamous hall of dice if one of them had decided to revolt against yudhi Panchali wouldnt have had to face what she faced. That is why BG is given to him, but his eyes truly opens towards the truth of what his so called family is capable of when Abhi dies in Chakravyuha. If you see he doesnt ask anyone when he takes oath either Jayadratha's head or my death. Because Arjun is that guilty the man he protected is responsible for the death of his 16 year old son.

Yudhi knows dharma. he has an ego. He says he wont lie. If he had humility he could have called Krishna to play the game when Shakuni was playing with deceit. He knew it was deceit. Still he played straight. He kept his brothers as his property and then his wife. Krishna actually takes the ego of this man when he forces him to lie to kill Drona. he tries to speak truth, but Krishna ensures the illusion of lie is created by this man. He becomes the king thanks to Panchali Bhima, Arjuna and Krishna. Most importantly Panchali and Krishna.

Coming to Arjun of Beyhadh. He also has ego. He also thinks he knows everything. He knows dharma, that's why he is always right, others are always wrong. That's why he take decisions. Now also look at him. He is so confident . Does he know law, does he know how the court takes proof. Saanjh is standing on other side. The woman who knows law. Just like yudhi playing the game of dice with Shakuni, this man will mess it up big time. He will keep on throwing dice in such a way Maya will be slowly disrobed in public. His wife will become a spectacle till Samay enters. He will save her from becoming more of a spectacle. So at this point Yudhi. If he takes weapon and fight to give Maya justice post disrobing then I will shift him towards Arjun. Else if Maya has to fight she herself becomes Panchali/Arjun.

This is my feeling at this point.

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anjaanichudi

@anjaanichudi

Rocker

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Posted: 8 years ago

#137

Dis was d most pathetic court room drama. Saanjh was annoying as hell. Even if what she says is true, who wud tear clothes to get keys? some sick mind. Moreover, the keys cant be in sleeves or lower part of dress. How does she justify that? The dialogues were for his brother. How, why 😕😕

Arjun was studying law n left in between and still he has no clue to anythn 😕😕 n what ws d dusky jhaap in court room 😕😕😕

Why no cross examination was done? Maya's lawyer was so dumb.

I think even if Maya shows her bruises/bites, Saanjh will prove dt she did dt to herself to win d case. Unless Samay has literally seen Ayaan biting Maya, this case holds no water.

D precap, Saanjh saying tum giri hui aurat ho n all, can lawyers actually talk like dt?

Looks like Jhaanvi is gonna back stab Maya by testifying against her.

The only good part of d whole things is dt seems like by next week d drama will be over.

Aneri disappointed me hugely with her acting.

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Jane

@janecastle

Sparkler

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Posted: 8 years ago

#138

Originally posted by: vid6

+2. My question is what was Maya's smirk in the end was all about? Was she happy that finally Saanjh deserves all those women rights activists statements or is all an act?

I felt that whatever happened inside the court was genuine. Maya and her expressions were genuine inside the courtroom. Maya was genuinely happy for getting justice after the verdict was announced.

Whatever happened outside the court can or cannot be Maya's act.

It could be Maya taking revenge from Saanjh for humiliating her both inside and outside the court. Some of Saanjh's dialogues were pretty pathetic. So it's no wonder if Maya retaliated this way.

Or it could be the activists doing it all by themselves and Maya smiling seeing Saanjh's public humiliation. The case did get a lots of unwanted publicity, thanks to Saanjh's overconfident statement to the media.

So it could be either way and we'll only get a clear picture on Monday.

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Nithunavi

@Nithunavi

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Posted: 8 years ago

#139

Originally posted by: shruthiravi
@krystal it is still in twilight zone for me. Because when Maya was explaining her wounds the FB came to her. That gives me a feeling, she felt it was attempt to rape. But Samay's testimony proves it was not. It was physical assault. Ayan cannot escape physical assault and intimidation. This one he is guilty off.
I was yesterday thinking when Maya was stripping why the Goddess of justice was shown. The beauty of Goddess of justice is she doesnt see who is standing. it is about the balance in her hand. The balance takes into account everything. It is for the prosecutor and defense lawyer to ensure all the facts are properly presented. Did Saanjh present it correctly. She went overboard with Maya manipulation and too much of Arjun life to the extend she told any brother would have ripped apart Maya's dress. No you dont do that. A saner person has better options.

And even when Samay gave his testimony she didnt feel like cross examining him, why he felt it was not attempt to rape. Prosecution lawyer drew his conclusion.

In a way perception won. The fact you know everything won. Nobody's ego is affected. In the real war of dharma your ego is killed. As it is ego that creates perceptions.

So I will be following Samay. What he tells. Because he is the voice of truth, and Maya is the voice of perception . That's why their dance is interesting. You have to,listen to Samay and correct the perception. You have to hear him fully. I am happy CVs have kept the metaphors exact. I love them for that.

Bold - I too believe in that.

And everything else u said is on point here.

Samay is exactly like he said in start for me "samay sees only truth" and he had said what he had seen that was too gud.

And sanjh was so irritated seeing samay telling whatever he had seen also. But according to me saanjh with her ego destroyed the whole case herself. Atleast ayan wud have punished for just physical assault but she made it to rape attempt.

And seeing the video where ayan was on maya even VM was shocked did u see..

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CutiepieAD

@CutiepieAD

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Posted: 8 years ago

#140

Originally posted by: sunithi

@aditi this makes more sense..Maya is not aware of rape and physical assualt becox of her past..Bang on..Maya ka sach which is staged by Ashwin..If Maya staged rape attempt that would butcher her character,this gives justice to her as Arjun said..

She did stage a part of it. Like seeing Ayaan coming from ambulance. Tying Arjun so that he doesn't interfere. Morning he is untied. Police right on time. These things imply the fact.

But Ayaan went overboard nd there's no justification to that. If he behaved properly, Maya would not have accused him for attempt to rape. But his physical assault made her humiliated n scared.

Maya's character is not a saint. But she isn't any as evil or irredeemable as few say. She's mentally disturbed. I don't think her past should be used as an excuse for her. That just makes me sympathise with her. But the self obsessed ppl around her like Arjun who isn't taking her to psychiatrist is at fault. And ppl like Vandana n Saanjh too who don't even sympathise with her condition.

Edited by aditi97 - 8 years ago

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