Perspectives... updated pg 17

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Perspectives

This is the thread that will go along with the show, following the episodes
There will not be here:
- single theme
- unified approach
- unified opinion
- single output

There will be here:
- different angle view and perspectives
- from intentions to results
- from internal monologues to voiced thoughts
- from internal wars, to real military action
- from one person to all involved in the process

Thank you for reading😊
A healthy discussion is encouraged. Share your thoughts😊

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We are the product of our family

Mathur family - Dusky/Saanj, Prem, Suman, Shubh

Ideal
Picture of an ideal family. They are always together. They care about each other. Worring about each other. They are interested about each other's problems. They are ready to support each other. To help. To raise. To intercede. Their quarrels are insignificant. Their roles are painted, and they move according to this

Prem is ready to defend his daughter. He's a father. He must decide and act. He sends Saanj to Mauritius. He offers Saanj to go to Singapore. He doesn't want and can't wipe daughter's tears. He is a defender - one who must remove the cause of his daughter's tears, and not consequences

Suman is ready to go with her daughter to the end. She's a mother. She should support, scold, encourage. She pushes to confess to Arjun. She scold when Saanj doesn't leave for Singapore. She offers directions of motion. She is the support that is always there. She's the back where you can weep fill and be weak.

Shubh, he is an adviser. His world is pure and transparent. He loves his sister, but he doesn't know the world of adult emotions and feelings. He is a small theorist, everything seems easy and simple. But he is a future man, so now he is ready to be a protector for his sister, with his childish methods.

Saanj/Dusky is a lawyer, a friend and, as they would say, a good person. Her nickname Dusky is twilight, the time between day and night. But Saanj's world is a world of black and white. Her judgments are categorical. Her world is divided into right and wrong. Her love - full dedication. Her intentions are always good, but actions are harmful. She does not have the strength to fight. And she prefers to run away. She interferes, always. She is too much

Sharma family - Arjun, Aayan, Vandana

Selfishness

Vandana - mother/stepmother and head of the house. Her house has her rules. Control must be in her hands. Her decisions must be carried out. Her desires should be above all. She must be placed above others. Vandana never admit her mistakes. All the fault always lies with others, if no one is around, then probably the fault will be on a neighbor's cat or magnetic storms

Ayan is a brother who knows the right things. He loves his brother, but he loves Vandana too. He wants Arjun to accept Vandana, then his family will be perfect for him, everything else doesn't interest him. He is unripe and hot

Arjun is loneliness and misunderstanding. His selfishness is derived from the selfishness of the surrounding people. Vandana appeared in his house. His father soon after his mother's death married Vandana, for sake Arjun. But Arjun became all alone. His connection with the house is Ayan. The reason for the lack of a home is Vandana. His world was built by other people's decisions, without his participation. His relationship was built on obliged to, must, and promised. Everyone wants, everyone demands, and no one listens to him. His solution to the problem is to leave. Slam the door of is his option. His desires are important, his desires are cut off from the world and the family, because he hangs somewhere in space without a home

Mehrotra family - Maya, Jhanvi, Ashwin

Thirst

Ashwin is a person of selfishness, who is only interested in money. His thirst for money is so great that it burns everything else. He has no attachments, no love, no human qualities. Thirst for money, which is always not enough for him. In addition to thirsting for money, there is only one more - the thirst to destroy the one who dared to oppose him

Jhanvi - she is interested in her husband's love. The thirst for husband's love is so great that it eclips the helpless daughter who is tortured by her father. She is ready to forgive again and again not her pain. She is ready to accept again and again not her tormentor. She is ready again and again to believe in fairy tales, because the consequences of these tales will not fall on her head. There is not enough room for her daughter in her heart

Maya is a girl who saw nothing but pain and fear. She longs for everything. She wants control - only he gives security, which she did not experience. She craves protection, from which she got only an illusion. She longs for maternal care and love, from which she got only a mirage. She longs for the family, from which she got only a terrible caricature. She craves absolute love, boundless, when you are more important to someone than others, when you are number one, when your life is most important for someone
She longs for light. She longs for life

She appreciates those who are next to her. She is ready to give everything and even own life for someone she loves
She doesn't appreciate her life. Her instinct of self-preservation doesn't work

One thing that distinguishes Maya from the others is that she is never alone. Her personality is forcibly splited into the one that hopes, and the one that achieves. To weak and strong. On defender and helpless. To normal and abnormal. On right and wrong


Selfishness and thirst - they are drawn to each other. They have no bottom. They the precipice. Infinity. Beyhadh. But
They don't fit together at all. Egoism can't quench thirst. Thirst can't delight egoism. They are the opposite. Destructive for each other. Until one or both of them are transfirmed into something else

Until egoism sees others
As long as thirst doesn't see herself
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Beautifully written post. I agree with all your points. Selfishness & Thirst attract each other but at some point, they differ unless both change. However, Selfishness also does not go well with an ideal family as well. Either, one of them has to change. The same goes with thirst.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Laska wonderful post 👏👏👏. I thoroughly enjoyed reading it.
When Ideal involves with selfishness and thirst it destroys ideal. That's why Prem doesnt want his daughter to meddle with Sharma's or Mehrotra's because he knows he has experienced what selfishness and thirst can do to his child for whom it is black and white and things more white than black. Reason she has only seen that in her home. Her upbringing is done on those values. She had a very loving family. her perspective of outer world is also like that.
That's why Arjun is duffer for her, she feels Vandana has to be respected because she respects Suman. But Vandana is not Suman. But Saanjh sees Suman in Vandana. The biggest mistake of her life I would say. The illusional world of Vandana she might follow leaving the reality of what her mother had told.

Coming to selfishness irrespective of what Prem wants ideal has to enter selfishness the question is where. Because when ideal enter selfishness, it has to has the power to attack and expose the selfishness there. It should be able to humble the so called " I am right" people. Because thirst cannot do that. As selfishness will put the blame on thirst as Vandana is doing on Maya. In selfishness also there is grade. One is Vandana Mata who has a sob story. I did this for Arjun, that for Arjun it is a facade that hides something deep or super ego on she is always right. There is Arjun for whom everyone takes decision, he is called duffer. In a way he wants luxury but wants to camouflage it as love and actually Maya becomes a prey for him too if she doesnt watch her steps.
Third character is Ayan. His selfishness is more kiddish. He was always go between Arjun and VM. He wants them both. In reality very much attached to his brother but will be forced to choose his mother as that is what is expected out of an ideal son. But he will miss, miss his bhaiyya, miss his bhabi but will realize they have gone far away from them. Dont think Ayan will be able to take it. He might use Saanjh/Dusky to satisfy that void in him as he says Dusky is the connect between this family and that family. Now where it will take we have to see.

Now thirst. The thirst of power, thirst of wealth, thirst of control to quench it in the right way ideal is not enough. If ideal goes behind this ideal will be burnt. Ideal needs selfishness to go for this thirst. That grey area has to be traversed. once again it depends on where ideal is connected with selfishness. Any wrong match of ideal and selfishness thirst will win.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@kavsy, on the idea of an ideal in general there is no place next to egoism and thirst. He is ideal, the transition beyond the limits is contrary to it on principle
The ideal in itself also can not be a couple to somebody else, because otherwise there will be no balance again. Thirst can't delight egoism until she sees what is in her, what she has herself. Egoism can't quench the thirst exactly until he sees not only his needs, but also the others

@shruthiravi, but first the ideal should become wider, must see the limit
The ideal is a template. This is the framework. This is an example. But in reality there is no place for the ideal. The ideal doesn't survive in harsh conditions. The ideal is a kind of environment that you can try on yourself. Like twilight - this is a transitional time. Flow. The ideal must become an environment, but in order to be able to become a medium for selfishness and thirst, the ideal must accept and understand both, otherwise in its desire to lead those whom don't know, ideal will destroy both - thirst will wither, selfishness will surpass itself

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Exactly laska ideal cannot see through the prism of ideal that right and wrong ideal has to know threshold, the in between if it has to solve anything.
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13/03/17

Easy come, easy go

Vandana got a son. After years and years of sobbing, suffering, unrequited care and something else that is hidden in the twilight of her tearful stories

Ayan finally got what he wanted. Arjun accepted his mother. Perfect family

Here it is happiness

But Vandana didn't slap her finger on the finger to get it
Vandana received the rights of mother, and decided that her hands were completely untied. She can do anything! Now the house is completely hers! Rules only hers! Choice only hers! Selfishness has surpassed itself!
And her two sons, as representatives of an ideal family, will obey this

Vandana demands, dictates terms, puts ultimatums, and arranges public scenes, in the best manifestation of street marketplace

The result is obvious - Arjun out of himself. And bothered. He listened to Maya. He listened to his mother. He listened to many people, however as usual. The boiling point is passed

The spring is unclenched. He's leaving

The son ceases to be a son. Mother ceases to be a mother. And on top of everything, a brother who stand at mother's side, ceases to be a brother

Easy gone

Even the faint of Maya came after

Vandana in the best traditions blames Maya

But already in the evening happily going to eat sweets in honor of the future grandson. This person amaze with her winding ways!

We celebrate the completion in the family!

In a family that fell apart. In a family that never was family
Surprisingly Vandana has bypassed the future mother at the universal joy. Arjun will become a father. And who is the mother, Vandana?

In Aayn says his egoism, it just screams, which was mercilessly bruised! "He is not my brother, he does not need us! And we do not need a stranger's child!"

And every phrase beats back this holy-infallible-Vandana

But the story didn't end there

The drama of family egoists-Sharma is about to devour someone
Egoism was deprived, from egoism was taken away something that belonged to him
Now egoism wants more, he will drink thirst
Each
This will be the next disaster

And ideal looks at all this scene
And ideal don't see border as usual

Mother thirst still sees only her thirst husband
Edited by Laska - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Can you plz write in simple words..its so tough to decipher the concept..
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Posted: 8 years ago
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@Laska Ayan took a stand. For me he was speaking the same language of Vandana. VM didnt wanted Maya but wants grand child while Maya is a stranger. Ayan made his brother a stranger. And she did shut up VM for good.
Yes Ayan's ego was bruised, when he was called step brother. But he said he will give life for his mother. Was his mother right in doing the road drama. Yes VM tells Arjun is lost in the Maya of Maya's eyes. Then Ayan is lost in the Maya of ideals. That a son always has to protect mother if a choice comes doesnt matter she is right or wrong.

Saanjh comes with the news of child. What does she think. Fevi quick. Fix everything fast. No broken things cannot be fixed that easily.
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Originally posted by: sunithi

Can you plz write in simple words..its so tough to decipher the concept..

In simpler words

Easy Come Easy Go

Vandana didn't make any effort to Arjun accept her as a mother
Efforts were made by Maya, she wanted to tell Arjuna the truth, even though she was scared. It was difficult for her to tell her life, her own

Her efforts gave a push

Vandana simply accepted the gift. But she didn't deserve it, so she couldn't appreciate it. Therefore, she didn't try to know her son. Talk to him. She acted with her previous methods - blackmail, threat, demands

Situation just played back. What you don't appreciate, then leaves you sooner or later, no matter how much efforts others make to prevent this from happening

Too much compressed spring always wins out even more than it was squeezed - it needs more space, it needs to be completely freed from pressure

Therefore Arjun breaks all ties completely. With Vandana, with the house and even with Ayan

The story has played out - the fragile relationship of Arjun and Ayan broke on their main stumbling block. Mother/stepmother. This question will always stand between them. And they both must learn to manage it. Both must find the boundaries

Dusky as usual acts from a position - everything can be easily corrected. This is her eternal mistake
The reckoning will always come to the thirst - thirst is directed outward, it is open

Jhanvi sees in Arjun Ashwin, she doesn't see the differences. She only sees that her daughter repeats her path. Maya's pregnancy is a disaster for Maya, according to Jhanvi, because Ashwin revealed his face precisely with Jhanvi pregnancy

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