Debates on the current track...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Ok...dnt get me wrong..i am not against people pointing out their views..but I seriously dnt understand many opinions...so i just thought i will try and explain why i feel so far this show.is doing great and is moving steadily..
Some points i remember being said abt was..

1.aditya is being immature..why force zoya to talk to waseem..let her do things herself...


Because thts aditya frm the very start..why did he force zoya to fake marrg..why did he taunt zoya even when she didnt respond to him while he was insulting her during the funeral track..remember what he said..even in those chaos..he said...respect urself..thts the character he is..he always made zoya stand up for herself..he is a little pushy in that..yes..he definitely dnt want this alliance to happen..but even if he was not romatically interested in her..he would still have forced her to stand up for her feelings..



2..some say zoyas character has been butchered..


I dnt understand this..why would her considering remarriage if the guy is really worth it makes her character butchered?..yes she is a strong independent women..but strong independent women can get encouraged to get a married life..she was not over yash yet?..how can we tell that...she has never shown any hurt or pain regarding yash since the drowning of photos in the lake...she was shown embrassing life and rain like a fresh women..so is it not a possibility she is indeed over yash?..her denying marrg at first could be just because she was already comfortable in life with career,family and aditya...she just was scared to make any changes in life..any women would be scared..especially when its arranged arrg...in her pov...she has laready made a wrong choice by going against wassim..arshad seems to be a very nice guy...arshad will give her time to think it over..so why not use that time and check if getting married to arshad is a good decision..
And no..she doesnt even have given aditya a thought as a partner..but tht doesnt mean she has no love for him..her love for him is evident when during the drunk state her only concern was him going away..when she was in the verge of death the first face she remembered was adityas..she never gave it a second thought...why was that...once she does that..she will understand he is way more than a friend to her..but right now she is very much convinced that its her friendship that she shares so deeply with aditya ...


3..aditya is being selfish and not.leaving zoya alone to let her realize her own feelings..


Aditya only encouraged her to speak her.mind to waseem and the only thing he forced her so far was to know abt whether she talked with wassim..thts not selfish..if he was selfish he would have right away.told her tht she cant accept arshads proposal and he loves her when she said abt the 2 week deal..

He said he will fight for his love..how is that wrong either..if we love someone and that person is not in love with anybody in general..thn its very important for us to let the person know abt our feelings...even if its a sure no frm their side..let them.make the decision after knowing the whole truth..yes zoya already friendzoned him..but she doesnt know what aditya feels for her...zoya needs to see him in that light to truthfully say whether aditya can only be her friend or not..currently she has never ever considered her relationship with aditya romantically...if he just show her the possibility of them together forever ..she can atleast make a fair choice considering its totally her decision of whom she feels more for..

4.after all this...i have read somewhere..the show is totally out of track. And this is really ridiculous...considering its a story abt two souls who after being betrayed by spouses find the faults in themselves and then falls in love and how they fight against all odds and family to get together .the first part is over...yash and poojas betrayal and their acceptance regarding them has been done..now its their love story and their struggle with the world to get together

This is what i think so far is happening..and i am loving it..

Ok..maybe i am not convincing enough or maybe i am not understanding ur point..anyways..i thought i will share...

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agreed to all things. Bt zoyas character n pov should b explored more. Her monologues, her thinking abt anything needs to b shown too. We have no clue wats actually running in her mind. Different ppl make different assumptions abt her becos cvs have failed to show how zoyas mind works actually n hence ppl ridicule zoya, bash her n dont connect with her mostly. Thats it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I liked your perspective. The thing is everyone has their own sense of seeing the things shown to them. All have different opinions and everyone is justified in their own way. I like to see things from other's perspective so i can introspect the track more deeply. More views.. more introspection and speculation and we can enjoy the story much better. I liked how you presented the story in the positive sense and it is not wrong at all. 😃

After everything i am still as much in love with BP and JenShad as i was in first episode.Maybe we were expecting somethings or we are confused about one point but until unless we get to the end of track .. we actually don't know how exactly it is gonna pen down.

Patience😃 quality i possess and many more loyal fans too.😊

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Posted: 7 years ago
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nice post ..
hmm my issue is 2 stuff

1. in aditya's case - he helping zoya to speak wasim is great, he proposing her is also ok ..
what bothered me is he is not wondering or thinking what if zoya says no .. i mean zoya made it clear na that she is not ready for marriage and is not ready to be in love .. even after knowing this i dont find him worried .. i mean he can go ahead and give it a try but i guess writers need to include certain lines like ' what if zoya says no.. like its ok if she says no but atleast she needs to know this from a friend "..
my issue is why no hesitation .. in the current scenario he needs to be a lil serious and not so childish by assuming so much .. he is ready to propose, ok but at the same time also think what if zoya says no ..

Yes also listening to ArNoor so much whose advices are so immature .. Aditya can do better . he need not listen

2. Zoya - yesterday the speech by her was so deep .. she says aditya is my best friend and yet she is so lost .. chalo thik hai .. no problem ..zoya is playing safe by saying yes to that 2 week proposal thing which is ok but she is too casual and enthusiastic .. she needs to be more serious wrt the issue .. also i find her confusing and i m not getting what is running in her mind

this week on yesterday's episode was not up to the mark .. i felt certain questions would be raised in AdiYa's mind but they seem all ok and both seem to be assuming ..

see post leap things have changed and i expected certain maturity from them ...

@Deeps i truly agree with u wrt how Aditya and Zoya are but the way makers are missing out on showing certain depths to their personality is missing and thats what is bothering me ..

Edited by mans1234 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: geet0910

Agreed to all things. Bt zoyas character n pov should b explored more. Her monologues, her thinking abt anything needs to b shown too. We have no clue wats actually running in her mind. Different ppl make different assumptions abt her becos cvs have failed to show how zoyas mind works actually n hence ppl ridicule zoya, bash her n dont connect with her mostly. Thats it.

Yes geeth..andni am sure they will be showing zoyas change in state of mind soon..currently they are not showing anything more abt what is going thru her mind because there is exactly nothing much going thru her mind..she is happy..she feels complete..when alliance of arshad was thrust upon her either than being tensed she was not exactly in a turmoil.of emotions..her mindnis clear..her only tension was how to convince wasseem she doesnt want to marry right now...and thats very normal in arranged marrgs..when she realizes that even after arshad being a great guy and still she doesnt feel happy with him..thts when we will get to see the turmoil in her mind..and her questioning herself..I think cvs want to show zoyas.mind when the right time comes..at this time she is pretty not thinking much about herself..thst what i feel like..
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree with everything that u have written.
I don't find anything wrong in what Adi is doing. Like u said, he would have done that even if he didn't love Zoya. Just because he's in love with Zoya now, he seems more enthusiastic now, I would say desperate to talk to her. N being desperate is not always bad. Everybody is desperate when it comes to the thing that they r interested in. He never showed any desperation in "winning" Zoya. He was only desperate to know what she talked to her Abbu n that's obvious because that's the topmost thing in his priority list now. Like Zoya, I want to have his monologue too. I wanna know what he is expecting in his life post confessing his love. Does he assume Zoya to accept his proposal or he is ready for the rejection n giving her some time too? Is he now too planning to confess his love to Zoya after learning from her that she has friendzoned him or he is planning to woo her first n then confess his love? I only want this clarified, rest I m ok with whatever he has been doing.
Coming to Zoya, I loved what she told her Abbu the other day. I m also ok with her giving 2 weeks time to Arshad, maybe she genuinely wants to give love a chance for the sake of her father or she is doing this only to buy some time n proving to her father that she tried...I m ok with her decision. But again, I want her to have some peaceful time of herself n think about what's going on in her life. I m ok if she doesn't realise love for Adi or his love for her yet. But I want her to analyse what Adi is doing what he is doing. She may not get the answers, but she should try to think at least, she should at least feel there's some difference in Adi's behaviour since a week. This is the least I expect from her, n without this everything will look forced. She can not be so blind to the things happening around her.
If any complaints I have to have, I'll have them with Arshad, he is being doing ghoospait everywhere. I would like his separate scenes with Zoya. He has already realised that there's more to AdiYa relationship than just friendship, I guess. Baki Zoya can keep talking about her n Adi n he can do 2+2. He doesn't need to be chashmadeed gawaah of everything. Also, Adi n Arshad can also have separate scenes. I don't like 3 of them together...but that's part n parcel of 3rd angle tracks, can't expect better Like how many of us said before Arshad's entry that third angle need not always be negative, Zoya will realise her love for Adi better if Arshad is a good man, exactly, Adi should also not be less good to show Arshad good. I will have my share of complaints if they show too much of Arshad being a very good man n Adi a careless, immature, self-centred man. Because that's the last thing I would want for Adi after all that has been in this story so far. Adi 2.0 needs to have grown from Adi 1.0 n if he is butchered for showing Arshad goodie goodie guy, I'll lose it then. Till then, all's good with me.😃
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: alizia_malik

I liked your perspective. The thing is everyone has their own sense of seeing the things shown to them. All have different opinions and everyone is justified in their own way. I like to see things from other's perspective so i can introspect the track more deeply. More views.. more introspection and speculation and we can enjoy the story much better. I liked how you presented the story in the positive sense and it is not wrong at all. 😃

After everything i am still as much in love with BP and JenShad as i was in first episode.Maybe we were expecting somethings or we are confused about one point but until unless we get to the end of track .. we actually don't know how exactly it is gonna pen down.

Patience😃 quality i possess and many more loyal fans too.😊

Me too dear..very much loving thw show ..i knw..maybe my perspective is wrong..and maybe there are indeed flaws..but right now..i see nothing and i am very happily waiting for the story to reveal..
Edited by deeps07 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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See someone above posted that aditya did mot think what if zoya says No..
But that's how aditya has been..
During the fake marriage track dats exactly what harsh told him.." tum poochte kahan ho sirf batate ho"
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When he ran away with zoya he did not think of the consequences of what will happen when people run away from police and they get entangled into police case..

Like wise here as well he is focussed on telling her his dil ki baat and subconciously he feels she wonr deny and if she denies he will decide in the spur of moment what next
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Thats his actual character trait..

As for zoya she has become one strong headed girl but she still doesnt have that much courage to deal with her emotional father specially she cant say no when she knows tgat her earlier decison of choosibg a life partner was wrong.
You believe ir or not you never forget your part wrong doings and specially when parents had warned you agajnst it..
Zoya needs to see good in arshad to see the best qualities about aditya which made her like him to infinity inturn love him to infinity..

Also i would like to highlight waseem .. why suddenly a marriage alliance because he is a scared father and his fatherly instincts have judged zoya and adis relation and as a precaution he is forcing her into an alliance eben thouvh he hears her defense he cannot handle aditya coz he knows he will steal his daughter agaib like yash from him
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Agree to ur point of view... I dnt agree with statements abt
character butchering and show been destroyed and all...i think there is more to this track and will wait to give my verdict on the track...zoya giving arshad 2 weeks is understandable to me...but a little more insight into her thoughts might help...and I want adithya to find his own to make zoya realise her feelings...but still I think it is better than what is served at rival channels at the same time...
Edited by shabla - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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1. If Adi had not realized his love for Zoya then he would have gone back to Paris so if Zoya had talked to him about Arshad then I think he would have said, "meet that guy couple of times, both of u try to know and understand each other and if u feel the guy is good for u, accept the proposal. After all, ur dad has chosen him for u then he must have done it for ur own good. Take ur own time and decide if u want to marry him or not."
2. Zoya first told Waseem that she's not ready for marriage but the next moment, Arshad asks her 2 weeks time to prove himself worthy of her and she says yes to him and tells Adi that if he succeeds in proving himself worthy of me, I will say yes to the proposal. It's like she suddenly took a 360 degree turn. That shows she has no problems marrying again but the only thing is she wants to know the guy before taking the decision to marry him. She should have said the same to Waseem then I don't know Arshad, how can I marry him? First she tells there's no place for marriage in her life and the next moment she gives time to Arshad to woo her. I found her character inconsistent in this regard.

3. There's nothing wrong in Adi proposing to Zoya but I don't know why he and ArNoor are overconfident that Zoya will accept his love in spite of knowing she treats him only as her best friend and nothing else?

I still will give chance to this show without keeping any hopes because this is the only show that I watch and I feel it might get better.

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