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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Jan50

Hope the cvs give us a god pleasant surprize of his refusing to see Sanchi as a love interest. I wish he calls her his sister. 😆 He should say since i lst a sibling Saurab, i am considering sanchi as my aby sister. How hilarious it will be wnen Sanchi is all dreaming about him in her la la love land.but he
Calls her as his sister.



🤣 Oh my God, that would be so much fun. We need something like that now after so much blood boiling they've done of ours.

Yeah those scenes of Anandi bringing Sanchi down the stairs reminds me more of a daasi of olden days. She holds Saanchi so tight as if that woman is a little girl who's going to run away. 😆

BTW, who is Ashima?

Yme


Edited by YMe11 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: VildanaROSID

Hats for everything what you write here 👏👏

Same me dont want see them as couple.



I so agree with you Sidra, just don't want to see them as a couple, the thought sickens me. I would so like a track to see what Saanchi would do if she fall in love with Vivek and he with someone else. will she be her old obsessive self and try to cause harm to the woman, or blame and accuse him? Or will she graciously accept it.

When Sanchi was asking Anandi yesterday do you really believe me when I say I've changed, it was as if she herself couldn't believe she's capable of change.😃

Yme
PS: Sidra, missed the post where you said the same thing. Just shows great minds think alike 😉😃


Edited by YMe11 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: koolsadhu1000


sidra it is so shameful

first loving one brother then loving other brother😆


Kools that too is possible, especially when one recognizes the good man and the bad, but Sanchi is constantly in and out of love, and that too, not only in love but obsessively in love that she's willing to fight anyone for her love, see Jagya's case, also for Saurabh she fought with Anandi. That obsessive love is scary. Moreover, while she was obsessing over Jagya and fighting Ganga, she was also eyeing Saurabh

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Jan50


The best reformation for Sanchi is e a spinster for a few years and make a carreer for herself and then
Marry reformed Sunny or Saurab. When Sanchi can redeem so an sunny or Saurab.


Considering the cvs way of tackling these issues, anything is possible. She may marry either Saurabh or most probably Vivek. But the main point is how again to keep Anandi on a pedestal in this?? This is how.

Sanchi marrys one of the bros. Mamma Kabra melts and takes back her son. But she is being vicious to Sanchi. Now there are two scenarios.

1. Anandi goes and gives Mrs Kabra a lecture on how a DIL should be treated. Mrs Kabra trembles in front of Anandi's stares and bhashan and gives in. Lo behold Mamma Kabra is reformed, thanks to Anandi. Later everybody praises how good a MIL is Mamma Kabra. She looks bashedly at Anandi and say"Anandi has opened my eyes". Everybody turns to Anandi with looks of gratitude in their eyes. Anandi gloats but tries to look overwhelmed.

2. Better still. Sanchi is at a loss . How to deal with this vicious MIL? Flashback...how Anandi bhabhi has dealt with her and her Mom. Smile...and with lot of patience, she wins over her MIL. A Kabra-Shekhars- Singhs get-together. Mamma Kabra is all praises for Sanchi as a DIL. Sanchi smiles and says, all this is thanks to her Anandi bhabhi. She learnt from Anandi bhabhi how to be a great DIL. Everybody agrees and looks in wonder at Anandi. Anandi gloats but looks quite overwhelmed.

What do you think?😆

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: sidra08


i am already married My wife has gone to maika Will be coming soon


😆😆
Plz do not give cvs ideas. We may get to see "Pyar tune kya kiya". But must say Sanchi as a psycho will give a once in a life performance.😆
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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: YMe11


BTW, who is Ashima?


Ashima is Shiv's close friend who dreamt of marrying him. She is from London, if I am not wrong, met Shiv there when he had gone abroad for further studies. She was heart-broken when he married Anandi. Later she happened to meet Mahi somewhere near Udaipur, on one rainy night. "Roop tera mastana" followed and she simply vanished from the scene. Mahi has fallen in love with her, tried to contact her, but she refuses to take any of his calls. He is feeling totally helpless. After showing this in a couple of episodes, they have side tracked the issue bcz many important things regarding the ladli Sanchi were happening..pun intended.

ps: The entire track is open to any twists that may occur to the cvs from time to time.😛
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Posted: 11 years ago
@wanderer @kools @YMe
a lot of interesting points have come up in this thread. And yet I'm deeply disturbed by some of the suggestions on this thread as well on a few previous threads on Saanchi's rape.
First there was almost an attempt justify the rape -- saying she brought it on with her evil ways. Now I detect disappointment at her winning the case. There is a longing for her to have lost it -- as just desserts for her past deeds.
The argument that VKabra should have privately reprimanded his rapist brother while allowing the destruction of the rape victim is beyond belief and acceptance for me.
Yes, this is fiction, yes rape victims do not always get justice, and yes families of rapists might try to protect them.
But to argue that a lawyer portrayed as honest and human -- the reason Sa wanted him to fight her case though he went against her previously-- should have deliberately allowed a rape victim to be destroyed, shakes me to the core.
To say that that would have been realistic baffles me.. Why should TV soaps, that are otherwise rarely realistic, suddenly become realistic only in the matter of showing the destruction of a rape victim? What message would that convey? That even the most honest and humane lawyer, when it comes to a rapist sibling, should turn weak and condone a rape?
In the case of Saanchi, it is being argued that her being raped is not enough punishment for her -- and that she should not even be allowed a chance at redemption. Yet at the same time, sympathy is being expressed for the rapist's mother.
For God's sake, the woman did not even say what Sau did was horrific, she did not for a moment regret his crime; all she wanted was to protect him. I could have felt a measure of sympathy if she cursed her own upbringing of the child, if she quarrelled with him for what he did and then if she had broken down in tears unable to see him being put away. Here the mother expressed no remorse, watched on while her rapist son slandered the rape victim and said he did no mistake in wanting to enjoy her for a bit. How can anyone sympathise with this lady?
I went to sleep deciding not to get into any of this. But could not contain my distress.
I have huge problems with the way the track was developed. If it was established from Sau's phone records that he did not send an MMS, it could have as easily been established from Sa's phone records that she received an MMS. From that to tracing that MMS down to Sau would have been simple. That should have been the ground for the prosecution to seek a retest of Sau's DNA sample. The phone record would not show the content of the MMS but the fact that he sent it would make him a clear, and most credible suspect.
Instead VKabra had to break his watch to find the MMS. Even after he supposedly felt discomfited by his brother's behaviour, he did not care to question him. As a lawyer he was bound to go over the details, step by step, with his brother. And if he did that he would have found his brother shifty, and his answers not credible. He does none of that. He just manages to break his watch.
As wanderer rightly said, what if VK had not broken his watch? Why did the CV's project this as the combined fight of A and Sa when they did damn all in the matter?
I have never liked Sa's character. The CVs could have kept her as a precocious brat instead of making her evil. But I cannot allow my contempt for Sa to cloud my judgment over the fact of her being raped.
So much of batting has been done for Jagya. People have forgotten that there was scene where J took into himself six evil Js. So the argument that he was never evil does not hold. He swore to destroy Anandi. He systematically went about it by trying to finish off Shiv.
He tried to get physically close to a former wife who was betrothed to another man and he did this in front of him. BV was at its creepiest worst in that phase. I think that low has not been surpassed.
Earlier J had allowed his second wife to shut the door on a tear-stained Anandi. He did not stop her from announcing that they were embarking on their suhaag raat. In my opinion these are cruel acts, not misguided acts.
It has been argued that the family punished him by slapping him and throwing him out-- for a few days. But in the case if Sa, even her being raped, is not enough. It is being argued that the punishment does not go far enough.
I'm glad J has been redeemed. By the same token, why insist that rape is insufficient punishment for Sa and she deserves no chance at redemption? Why don't we wait to see what she does with her life?
Edited by rohini55 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Rohini - Valid points, all, liked your post a lot. As a new member, I was a little disturbed too reading some comments here.

I feel disappointment after winning the case only because of the way it was handled. Sanchi didn't need Saurabh's brother but a capable lawyer to fight and win the case for her. Her case was strong enough, her brother is a district collector and a well known social worker is her bhabhi, she comes from a family with an Army background, all these factors could have made her case much more stronger and get much needed suppport on various fronts. Why should she feel indebted to Saurabh's brother and not her lawyer is my big concern.

As far as Sanchi-Jagya comparision is concerned, I have read many posts here, & am in agreement with you. I don't see much difference in them if we consider Jagya's behaviour from the moment he went after Gauri till Anandi got married to Shiv. Jagya got his chances, now it is Sanchi's turn. Yes, she for sure, deserves another chance, whether the viewers are interested to see her redemption is another point altogether.

I feel, just like some viewers who haven't really appreciated Jagya's transformation to a good man, there are some others who though sympathize with Sanchi because of the ghastly thing that happened to her, still don't think she deserves happiness too soon.

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Posted: 11 years ago
and i am still trying to understand, banging my head why Jagya is compared to Sanchi and why there is no difference among them Anyways to his each own he was , is better than her that does not mean i am justifying his behavior and second why all the world deserve a chance on basis of him? He got everyone should get ???First ask Sanchi to show remorse on her one mistake even equal to him then compare both and frankly is it too difficult to talk about Sanchi ? Sanchi is Sanchi Jagya is Jagya Sanchi won' t go to hell and heaven because of Jagya This is indeed funny the way Jagya is punched to defend this woman 😳
and lol no matter how much people mold the scenes and try to portray them o he was the worst o so evil o so bad still it is not equal to Sanchi's case of planning to kill an unborn child and when he tried to get physically close to Anandi in presence of Shiv i don't remember any such scene 😕when that scene was aired ? can anyone tell me ? and swearing to destroy is not equal actually almost destroying 😆the third one even Shiv maharaj tried to destroy him for bachi Sanchi Fell to every low of hiding truths Is he equal to Sanchi😆No why Jagya is ? Another why Anandi is firstly standing at door at service of Jagya Gauri that Gauri had to shut door on her face He allowed to shut the door Really this kind of funny to call him evil so what should have done ? stop Gauri 😆 He felt bad at it thats enough proof he has more heart than Sanchi i don't need to argue more but i am not in agreement to people hell bent on proving him worst or equal to Sanchi please the logics mostly seem forced to me
Edited by sidra08 - 11 years ago
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Posted: 11 years ago
Sidra,
I'm actually confounded that there is outrage being felt for the rape of a fictional character but no outrage at the fact that the portrayal and excuse of redemption for said character is so screwed that it sends the wrong message to real victims on how they could get justice. I am shocked at the silence over a samaj sevak and collector being shown as a bumbling fool. A show with social messages at the end of each episode needs to adhere to a better standard and not succumb in the name of cheap entertainment.

Saanchi is a side character, who frankly did not endear herself to ME. She has thus far been flesh out not to receive empathy. This sudden turnaround rings hollow to ME. I have watched Jagya as a kid. He endeared himself to ME whenever he went to bat for Anandi. His actions were never out of maliciousness. Best of all they always showed him remorseful or in a dilemma when he succumbed to debased feelings. I have yet to see same from Saanchi.

How come it's ok to cloud one's judgement of Jagya out of contempt for him and drag him into every situation negatively?
Edited by Picasso9 - 11 years ago

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