Is Shayra responsible for pologamy? - Page 2

Shaira is responsible for the polygamy. She knew very well how much Azan loves her. She just think about herself. There was absolutely no need to support that bitch Noor. She was a psycho. If she informed everything in time things would not turn so big. They could sit together and hatch a plan on how to handle Noor. Even on Khalid's drama she was the one who let it go. If she could shut her mouth and stay away from Noor's babble Noor would get married to Khalid.

But Shaira was only thinking of herself. God will punish her if she didn't keep her promise. This is very ridiculous. Why a blackmailing should be pampered?

I don't find Azan guilty. His wife made a wrong decision that doesn't mean he should let her do more. Islam gives permission to keep more wives. So he used that. I am not sure Noor is a legal wife or not too as she forced this shadi. This was not done with Azan's wish. Showing soft corner to Noor is nothing new. She is or was his best friend once. But his love is Shayara.

Well this serial is all about making polygamy justified. Thus full of shits. Now blame Shayra the fanatic. Read religion understood nothing. Brainless idiot. There were many ways to avoid this. She used none. Now suffer. I don't know why heroines are always so dumb?

J suis d'accord avec vous

Originally posted by: joypallavi

Azaan ,shaira and razia all 3 of them make effort to realize noor that her zid is totally wrong shaira gave up when noor threatened her of committing suicide and azaan and razia gave up when shaira is not ready to change her decision regarding aznoor marriage even after mehndi ceremony azaan tried hard to stop the marriage he donot bothered about noor reputation and family reputation but only bothered to stop the marriage at that time even shaira is stand with azaan not noor she clearly want to be herself innocent in yasmeen and faiz death. It was only noor who neglected all these things. After aznoor marriage shaira is not in guilt trip she is more stable person. As for azaan he loves shaira it is easy for azaan to refuse the shaira demands but that will not reduced the shaira burden of guilt. Shaira will not the same happy shaira even if she is living with azaan in this marriage. For azaan shaira's happiness matters alot he didnot let go shaira to suffer alone away from there life. In aznoor marriage shaira is hoping that azaan may find happiness in noor but she totally neglected her own happiness and loneliness. This is the thing which azaan Cleary pointed out infront of Razia also. After aznoor marriage shaira is guilt ridden from noor's side and noor is no more in sucidal mode so as a husband azaan did 2 things here firstly he taken away the guilt burden from shaira and secondly he stops shaira from going away despite stopping her from going away azaan never force himself on shaira. On the other hand noor has totally blinded towards azaan attitude towards this marriage .

I did place most of the blame on Noor, but my point was and still is that Azaan & Shaira both logically had ways out of this, therefore they are not entirely blameless. They are not children that they just had to listen to Noor's zid.

Noor threatened suicide - ok send her to a rehab center or a mental institution, what emotionally balanced /sane person threatens suicide like that? She needed medical, professional help to get her through her grief, not everyone listening to her. NOT someone hiding her suicide attempts (Shaira). It's not like she threatened that she would file a case against Shaira - and even then, what Shaira "supposedly" did was involuntary manslaughter at best, there's no direct evidence linking Shaira to the fire, they just all assumed it was her because she was the "last" one in the kitchen.

Azaan didn't have to listen to Shaira's request for him to marry Noor. Was he blackmailed? No. But the show writers are making it seem that Azaan was cornered into doing this and he just wasn't. He also didn't like Noor's zid. But his own zid is what made him take this step to marry Noor - he's 100% to blame for that. Did someone hold a gun to his head to make him marry her? No. He made a promise to Shaira when she was in the hospital - ok so what, why can't he take back that promise?

If Azaan just wants Shaira's happiness - then why not get rid of Noor? He's made it clear that he knows she's unhappy, & that Sharia is not pleased with seeing Noor with Azaan etc, she knows he's unhappy - so why doesn't he divorce Noor ? Whats stopping him? This is what I don't understand and this is why I place part of the blame (of participating in polygamy) on Azaan. The show has not yet justified what is still tying Azaan to Noor. Every reason they have given is a BS one and makes no sense. They try to play the destiny card - but its still TOOO contrived.

All 3 of them had a hand in the situation they're all in right now, either by threatening, by negligence, or by naivety.

Originally posted by: fria319

I did place most of the blame on Noor, but my point was and still is that Azaan & Shaira both logically had ways out of this, therefore they are not entirely blameless. They are not children that they just had to listen to Noor's zid.

Noor threatened suicide - ok send her to a rehab center or a mental institution, what emotionally balanced /sane person threatens suicide like that? She needed medical, professional help to get her through her grief, not everyone listening to her. NOT someone hiding her suicide attempts (Shaira). It's not like she threatened that she would file a case against Shaira - and even then, what Shaira "supposedly" did was involuntary manslaughter at best, there's no direct evidence linking Shaira to the fire, they just all assumed it was her because she was the "last" one in the kitchen.

Azaan didn't have to listen to Shaira's request for him to marry Noor. Was he blackmailed? No. But the show writers are making it seem that Azaan was cornered into doing this and he just wasn't. He also didn't like Noor's zid. But his own zid is what made him take this step to marry Noor - he's 100% to blame for that. Did someone hold a gun to his head to make him marry her? No. He made a promise to Shaira when she was in the hospital - ok so what, why can't he take back that promise?

If Azaan just wants Shaira's happiness - then why not get rid of Noor? He's made it clear that he knows she's unhappy, & that Sharia is not pleased with seeing Noor with Azaan etc, she knows he's unhappy - so why doesn't he divorce Noor ? Whats stopping him? This is what I don't understand and this is why I place part of the blame (of participating in polygamy) on Azaan. The show has not yet justified what is still tying Azaan to Noor. Every reason they have given is a BS one and makes no sense. They try to play the destiny card - but its still TOOO contrived.

All 3 of them had a hand in the situation they're all in right now, either by threatening, by negligence, or by naivety.

I think Shaira would have preferred going to jail over losing Azaan but Noor did not threaten her in this regard. Shaira tried telling Azaan and Razia but Noor told her that she can tell Razia and Azaan but they won't be around her 24/7 and she will commit suicide. Noor showed Shaira a box full of ways she was going to kill herself and there was a gun too, how much time does it take for one to kill herself with a gun?

Shaira didn't agree to Noor's demand because Noor threatened to commit suicide, even then Noor told Shaira that she knows Shaira won't give her Azaan then Noor asked Razia to fix her marriage with Khalid. In Shaira's eyes, Khalid is a man who tried to molest Noor, Noor told her that she will commit suicide after her marriage will Khalid, I went to this mindset where a molestor is getting a chance to finish what he could not complete because Shaira stopped him and it was a very disturbing picture for me. It was gives that Shaira will stop Noor's marriage and divorce Azaan.

She told Azaan the truth next day and she had to see Azaan and Noor nearing to a cliff ready to die, she was to lose Azaan in anyway, either he will die with Noor or live without Shaira.

I would have filed a case against Noor and got her arrested for attempting suicide and Shaira could have done something else but she is a young woman, it is not a daily occurrence in our life, we are not ready to deal with situations like these. She will grow old and think that she could have handled it differently

About Azaan marrying Noor, I still believe that the marriage did not take place as they didn't show the marriage scene properly.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

I think Shaira would have preferred going to jail over losing Azaan but Noor did not threaten her in this regard. Shaira tried telling Azaan and Razia but Noor told her that she can tell Razia and Azaan but they won't be around her 24/7 and she will commit suicide. Noor showed Shaira a box full of ways she was going to kill herself and there was a gun too, how much time does it take for one to kill herself with a gun?

Shaira didn't agree to Noor's demand because Noor threatened to commit suicide, even then Noor told Shaira that she knows Shaira won't give her Azaan then Noor asked Razia to fix her marriage with Khalid. In Shaira's eyes, Khalid is a man who tried to molest Noor, Noor told her that she will commit suicide after her marriage will Khalid, I went to this mindset where a molestor is getting a chance to finish what he could not complete because Shaira stopped him and it was a very disturbing picture for me. It was gives that Shaira will stop Noor's marriage and divorce Azaan.

She told Azaan the truth next day and she had to see Azaan and Noor nearing to a cliff ready to die, she was to lose Azaan in anyway, either he will die with Noor or live without Shaira.

I would have filed a case against Noor and got her arrested for attempting suicide and Shaira could have done something else but she is a young woman, it is not a daily occurrence in our life, we are not ready to deal with situations like these. She will grow old and think that she could have handled it differently

About Azaan marrying Noor, I still believe that the marriage did not take place as they didn't show the marriage scene properly.

Yeah, I understand what you're saying. But Noor was waiting for a reaction from Shaira - thats why all of her attempts were such BS attempts, because she wanted Shaira to give into her demands - that also means Shaira did have some time to tell Azaan before it got to the point of where it really did in the show. It honestly takes a split second to tell someone - she shares a room with the man, and Noor isn't privy to all of their conversations. Azaan's reaction is irrelevant to what Shaira should have done - because I think someone of her character, she should have spoke up. She shouldn't have kept anything hidden - Khalids 'molestation', Noor's 'attempted suicides', nothing.

Also, I just can't buy into the fact that threatening suicide is not a daily occurrence as an excuse for Shaira. I understand she's a young woman and its not a normal situation - but they've clearly established her character of being wise, logical, and just. That's why she's so different to Noor. The first thing someone should do when they see someone struggling is to get more help if they (Shaira in this case) can't help them. That's near common sense. AND, she grew up in London didn't she!??! That's such common subject that is discussed throughout school and life (mental health, suicide watch, helping those who look like they're struggling etc), it just doesn't make sense to me as to why she didn't speak up after the first time.

It's such a serious thing - to threaten suicide (I'm not defending Noor here) - that you would think that Shaira would secretly tell someone else in order to help Noor because she cares that much for Noor (which is something they also tried to establish). Not being ready for these things is the reason why Shaira shouldn't have handled it on her own to begin with and she should have told someone else. They could have done something - gotten professional help, put Noor in mental institution / psychiatric hold, house arrest, stick one of the many maids they have to keep 24/7 watch on her, etc.

It just doesn't add up and I blame it on bad writing. The only way it makes sense to me is that they've shown - which is something I consider a weakness in Shaira - that she likes to handle problems on her own. She handled the Khalid-Noor 'molestation' situation on her own, without consulting Azaan/Razia, and she initially tried to handle Noor on her own, again without consulting Azaan/Razia.

I don't hate her or anything, obviously, but Shaira isn't a perfect character. She didn't do what she should have done as a wife - share her problems with her husband so they could figure it out together. That's what he's there for. Her naivety and her need to fix everything on her own was her downfall in this situation. I facepalm mostly for Shaira's sake, because I still think if she had spoken up, at least the second marriage (whether fake or not) wouldn't have happened and she wouldn't have to be in the situation she's in right now. But then, we wouldn't have a story now would we?

in my point of view they are showing over conident never mind if it was Khalid case where she was repeating the same thing again that he should be in prison i will do it , did she tried to find out that what really happened she had created more enimies jn the house , and showing so much concern towards Noor and regarding Yasmeen s promise she have been tangled up her self in lots of problems on top of that having less then 1 percent knowledge of islam she she have been showing that she is over confident about her self. it s not her fault cvs have to make a story to run they have been showing that. but i am saying to the writers please dont use the name of the religion if you dont have the knowledge of it just to make a story.

one more thing i waned to add they would have show Shaira an innocent girl which she realy look.