Headcanons this way please! - Page 2

Of course everyone had daughters. Some had only daughters. However having a daughter was not worth mentioning, unless that Daughter existing served a major plot twist in the story.

However in case of heroes, the toxic masculinity was taken to ridiculous levels.

Sagara having 1000 sons. Kartaviryaarjun having 1000 sons.

To have 1000 sons a man has to spend several years doing nothing but having sex

Vasudev Krishna's father is given 12 dharmapatni and 2 bhogapatni and each has several sons and hardly any daughter.

Krishna as per Bhagvatham has 9 sons and 1 daughter from each of his 16108 wives who were all princesses

Pandavas had multiple wives, Dasrath had 300 wives

It is biologically impossible for every hero to have only sons and no daughter at all. And if there were no daughters then how come each of these guys have a wife, actually not one but so many wives. These wives were not coming out of thin air.

Only Draupadi comes out of fire and she ends up marrying 5 men.

So yes every one had daughters. Just that birth of daughter was considered not worth mentioning sadly

Mahabharata we have is an interactive Question and answer session between Vaishayamapayana and Arjuna's grandson Janmejaya.

Where Janmejaya asks a question and Vaishayamapayana answers it with a story. The story is brief or detailed depending upon the additional questions that Janmejaya asks and his interest on the matter.

Though vaishyampayana is narrating the Jaya/Mahabharata composed by Vyasa

It's not straight forward recitation. Like we have for Ramkatha during Navratri in temples. Where narrator recites and audience quietly listens

It is strictly following a question answer format,

Like lawyer says in movies Jitna poocha uska jawab do. Apne dimag ka istemal mat karo.

Now if we had Yaudheya or Bhima's son Sarvaga who didn't participate in the war instead of Janmejaya we would have had a different Mahabharata

^^^

Where did you find the citation for 300 wives of Dashrath? I didn't find it in Ramayana.

This disproportionate gender distribution is definitely visible

Daksh prajapati had 60 thousand sons and only 60 daughters.

Dashrath had four sons and one daughter whom he gave for adoption

The four brothers didn't have any daughter but had two sons each

Ravana had many wives but only sons from them.

Janak ji and Kushtdhwaj probably didn't have any son, will want your inputs on that. But then who succeeded them on throne?

Dhritrashtra had 100 sons and one daughter, Pandu no daughter and five sons.

Pandavas have hardly 3 daughters mentioned collectively(including folklores) but have around 2-3 sons each mentioned in the epic itself.

Karna had 10 sons and no daughter

Only Duryodhan was a modern man in this regard. He decided for family planning after having one son and one daughter

Going by this there would have been huge shortage of woman for marriage

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Mahabharata we have is an interactive Question and answer session between Vaishayamapayana and Arjuna's grandson Janmejaya.

Where Janmejaya asks a question and Vaishayamapayana answers it with a story. The story is brief or detailed depending upon the additional questions that Janmejaya asks and his interest on the matter.

Though vaishyampayana is narrating the Jaya/Mahabharata composed by Vyasa

It's not straight forward recitation. Like we have for Ramkatha during Navratri in temples. Where narrator recites and audience quietly listens

It is strictly following a question answer format,

Like lawyer says in movies Jitna poocha uska jawab do. Apne dimag ka istemal mat karo.

Now if we had Yaudheya or Bhima's son Sarvaga who didn't participate in the war instead of Janmejaya we would have had a different Mahabharata

They should have asked for Mahabharata Katha too, we might have known more about them.

Here only the progeny of Arjun were interested in knowing about the war -- Babhruwahan, Janamejay so we know nothing much about it

They should have asked for Mahabharata Katha too, we might have known more about them.

Here only the progeny of Arjun were interested in knowing about the war -- Babhruwahan, Janamejay so we know nothing much about it

Not just about the war, but also glorification of their specific ancestor from whom they have descended. Not just glorification but deification.

So all the pandavas have to be sons of devas, but Arjuna gets to be Nara incarnation as well.

Unfortunately Vajra was just sitting close-by and he may have more resources or might sound Krishna gets to be older brother Narayana

And Poor Vaishayamapayana has to start Mahabharata narration with glory to Nara and Narayana

Then JJ asks for specific details of Andhaka Vrishni that gets narrated as Harivansh in the same format

The part I hate the most is when Janmejaya asks how did Pandavas and Panchali do when Arjuna was in swargaloka.

The words tucked into Panchali's mouth are horrific. Apparently, being sexually assaulted was less painful than Arjuna going away to acquire weapons for a war SHE insisted was justice.

Also note: him being away was not a problem for her when he was fighting battles during imperial campaign with a real chance of death as opposed to living cushily in Indra's palace during Vana Parva when the rest were roughing it in the jungles.

Mine are also quite similar to others but I want to add one more in which there is a little bonding of arjun and Parikshit (other Pandavas too included)like teaching him warfare and telling about abhimanyu.Speaking of this I have a doubt that what was the need to tell about mb and smb to janmejaya and Parikshit as they would hve already known.(Parikshit was the grandson of Pandavas and I am sure that they must have told about their lives to him and shri krishna's stories can't be excluded by them and then Parikshit would hve told these stories to his son too )

^^^

Where did you find the citation for 300 wives of Dashrath? I didn't find it in Ramayana.

Valmiki Ramayana, book 2,sarga 38

अर्ध सप्त शताः ताः तु प्रमदाः ताम्र लोचनाः |
कौसल्याम् परिवार्य अथ शनैः जग्मुर् धृत व्रताः

Encircling Kausalya, three hundred fifty women, steadfast in their vow(of devotion to their husband), with their eyes reddened, went there slowly.

This disproportionate gender distribution is definitely visible

Daksh prajapati had 60 thousand sons and only 60 daughters.

Dashrath had four sons and one daughter whom he gave for adoption

The four brothers didn't have any daughter but had two sons each

Ravana had many wives but only sons from them.

Janak ji and Kushtdhwaj probably didn't have any son, will want your inputs on that. But then who succeeded them on throne?. He had a son who ascends the throne after him

Dhritrashtra had 100 sons and one daughter, Pandu no daughter and five sons.

Pandavas have hardly 3 daughters mentioned collectively(including folklores) but have around 2-3 sons each mentioned in the epic itself.

Other than Arjun's sons only Ghatothkach gets any space because just like Bhima he was too awesome to be ignored by Janmejaya. Prativindhya is a foot note in a page or two before a mention of his death, so are his four brothers and that too because they were born to Draupadi. Pandavas other sons are only named once in the entire epic, only freaking once, why would vaishyampayana endanger his Dakshina by mentioning daughters.

Karna had 10 sons and no daughter

Daughters may not have anything to contribute to the story, sons get mentioned as arrow fodder for Pandavas

Only Duryodhan was a modern man in this regard. He decided for family planning after having one son and one daughter.

Durydodhan had abducted atleast two different princesses and lakshman and lakshmana were twins so what happened the other wife's children. Lakshmana gets a mention because she is kidnapped by Krishna's son and Balrama gets to use his plough finally

Going by this there would have been huge shortage of woman for marriage.

Exactly but instead we see almost all heroes have multiple wives as princesses, not just two, but many..

Heroes if they didn't have sons would be considered impotent I guess. They would do yagya like Dasrath or Niyoga like Pandu or get pots on wholesale like Dhritrashtra or do magic like Krishna to have only sons. As per Bhagvatham Krishna had 9 or 10 sons from his chief 8 wives atleast.

That is 72 to 80 sons, but then he is supposed to be Vishnu incarnation atleast 80 sons is needed to show him to be the MAN. A man who has daughters cannot be a hero or God

Originally posted by: Horizon566

Mine are also quite similar to others but I want to add one more in which there is a little bonding of arjun and Parikshit (other Pandavas too included)like teaching him warfare and telling about abhimanyu.Speaking of this I have a doubt that what was the need to tell about mb and smb to janmejaya and Parikshit as they would hve already known.(Parikshit was the grandson of Pandavas and I am sure that they must have told about their lives to him and shri krishna's stories can't be excluded by them and then Parikshit would hve told these stories to his son too )

That 36 years is prob 36 months because Yudhishtira specifically leaves Parikshit in the care of Subhadra and appoints Kripa as the tutor. I don't think a 36-year-old man would need a tutor. IIRC, Yuyustu is appointed as regent. Plus, none of the Pandavas have anything to say to Parikshit on departure. Considering the fact it was narrated to Janmejaya, it is unlikely those parts were left out if actually said. Parikshit would have been exalted as the handsomest, bravest, charmingest, most famous Kuru of all and winner of an even bigger empire than all prior Kurus combined. AND the praises would have come out of the mouths of Pandavas and Panchali and Krishna. Also women... a few dozen wives and several waiting in line to be wives would have been mentioned.

Originally posted by: proteeti

Okay, so we all have our pet ideas about MB, some scenes or dialogues that we would love to see onscreen someday...basically the good creative liberties.

I'll give you one of mine: Krishna taking YBANS on a butter-stealing crusade across IP. 😆

Oh and another: YBANS visiting young Krishna and Balaram in Gokul/Vrindavan (and somehow Dury also tags along).

The above two scenarios are not a part of any text or anything, just my imaginations of some fun little things that could've worked out.

So that's that, and I would love to know about what other headcanons you guys have in mind! 😃

Proteeti, if you read my fictional Mahabharat some years ago, you'll see that in that story, I had the Pandavas (here, they were Bhima, Karna, Arjun, Nakul and Sahadev, while Yudhistir was the sutaputra 😈) join Krishna and Balarama on their butter-stealing adventures, w/ Arjun and Karna using catapults to bring down the butter. But no, I didn't spoil any such scene by dragging Dury into it