More Ilusions to Break? More Bonds to Break? - Page 3

Originally posted by: RainFire125

abbb samajh mein aaya ki why many are annoyed today!! Finally saw the episode and let me put my thoughts. Folks again might agree or might not, which is very much ok :)

We are emotionally attached to MaAn, I am too, however when it comes to the episode it is a holistic view of moving forward and at times moving backward. MaAn will not move forward so easily, that too Anu. It will take time and we have to have mountain of patience, which i also might loose many times!!! hahaha

This is in general I am talking about. So bear with me friends :)

Let me talk about some good highlights --

Hasmukh ji - you made me proud of you today. You are trying to get to see yourself in the mirror and not cringe. You are trying to stand up after taking a bad bad fall and that too from your wife whom you had respected till date. You asking for a job so that you dont put urself in this same position again, even though your daughter might not put you in this position and neither your grand kids, but still you making that move is commendable. I approve off that. As far as possible, we should not be that dependent on anyone, even our own children. So if the Makers show bapuji getting a job at Anuj's company - I will stand and clap. He will get his self-confidence back, he will get to see in the mirror and smile. I dont see any other way to restore what he has lost - his wife apologizing, his son pleading and taking him back, his so called daughter asking him to forgive and go back (which i am hoping she wont, if she does she has moved 10 steps back as per me), he getting his kharkhana back - nothing is going to restore his worth now. He has to stand again on his own legs. So if the makers intent to also add points to ANuj, maybe he will work with Anuj.

So bapuji, stick to your resolve, dont go back to that house, dont listen to anyone!! I dont mind you living on the streets but NO GOING BACK. By the way, i will love it if you move in with Anuj and GK.. Singles club will grow!!!🥳🥳

I might be thinking too optimistically and forward as per ITV standards, but let me give some time to the Makers to play the plot/end game for this track.

Mama ji - your dialogs were bang on. You did not budge from what you felt and put it right out there in front of your sister. You showed her the mirror in a way, but she is still in her own delusional world. She will not learn easy till she gets the full 20000 valt ka current. So leela has more coming her way. What way, i dont want to predict. He doom has just started or maybe about to start. My ques to her - If this is just between your husband and wife, why the hell did you make this a public fiasco by involving your SIL, and two outsiders - Anuj and GK????? So this is no longer between you and your husband!! This is public now.

Kavya - nothing to talk about, her only work is to instigate, put oil/ghee on fire and ultimately be the major cause for doom

V - will wait to see what he does, how, once he is back. I dont trust him.

Anuj - bhailog this ladka ka motive for now is just to be Anu's support. Thats it. He is not expecting anything else and he will not get hurt even if Anu praises Mr Shah in front of him. Bec he knows firmly that Anu does not have any feelings at all. So i will say 2 things here - Anuj is there bec he wants to be here to support Anu knowing very well how she is. So when the times are appropriate/required he has to spell out that Anu what you are thinking is wrong. You are delusional still. See, how he said during Bhumi puja that she has to break the bonds, just loosening them will not be enough. Second, its to be seen if our ladka feels that he is being taken for granted by Anu. Often people who are taken for granted their entire life, tend to take others too, more so when they know that the person cares about them a lot. It is their comfort zone or their thought ki that person is not going anywhere. So Anuj letting her do that - is something that we have to see. And if this gets to that - then we are in for something big!! This illusion also needs to be broken first before their relation moves forward. No one and i repeat, no one should be taken for granted ever. See where babuji is now and how leela still feels that he will return!! Anu starting to feel something, i dont see that happening yet. yes, he is being appreciated, he is scoring points on being a good person at heart, but Anu needs an extra kick to start feeling!! Cannot help as again that is her character.

Anu - Ok, i will agree that she has short term memory loss!! He is not a good father to all his kids - mainly Samar. Is he a good son??? No idea, and i will see how things pan out before saying anything else. Now we know what crap of a husband he is. Anu by nature is forgiving, her threshold is like a ocean, and we all will feel frustrated many a times. Only jhatkas work for her to break her illusion. Bonds are yet to be broken. I will say she has loosened them, but not broken them yet. So will we see things worsening with the Shah's 4 stooges to break this bond???? Writers, are we???? She will not forgive Leela, but she has not still detached herself fully. This detachment needs to happen with Leela, Mr Shah, and maybe Toshu as well. So more hangama is in store in the drama of kharkhana and property. If she takes 2 steps forward, bec of this unbroken bond we might see her taking 5 steps backward. Till she reaches a breaking point...

So lets see where this plots leads to and how the property dispute comes to play.

MaAn has a long way to go people, so writers have to induce situations to make that happen. Right now the only progress is she knows that he loves her and she is OK with that.

Did i make sense or did i write rubbish??😳

How nicely written!!!! ❣️❣️

MaAn's story will certainly be slow burn. Have no problem with that...they can take as much time as needed....I am sure that their story will be amazing. The makers have been subtly showing Anu's admiration and immense respect for Anuj which will escalate to love....❤

Meanwhile, the Shahs may create as much drama and chaos as they wish to, as long as it results in effectively pushing MaAn together 🤗🤗 while I agree with your POV that Anu should not take Anuj for granted, I think that she may not have realized the effect her words would have on him.

loved your analysis of Bapuji's growth...❤❤ his choice to be self sufficient, even in his vulnerable state was beautifully portrayed on screen too...I completely agree with your point that everyone should be self sufficient.

Regards

Khushi

MaAn getting closer slowly slowly is ok..no rush..but Anupama is not moving forward that’s the problem..they are sending the wrong message..she is divorced,she left house everything but still she’s seen to let shahs take advantage of her good nature..she told baa ki muje chappal se maariye etc etc ..what is the need of all that n y she should hit u at the first place?one side ur telling ki he’s my only friend and defending ur friendship with Anuj and on the other way ur telling baa to hit u?wt nonsense..I understand she’s lived in that house for 26 years and attachment is def there but she needs to understand that she’s now divorced and Wateva baa told her post the night out with Anuj is enough for her to break all ties..I saw her attitude only the day she left shah house and wn she signed the papers on street..post that she’s again same old cry baby..I want to see her professional growth..her all firsts just like her first flight/beach etc etc..it’s all gone now post the cooking competition..and Anuj also…don’t he have an empire to look to?he’s always seen supporting anu and at her place/academy..where is THE ANUJ KAPADIA that the makers claim to be the business tycoon of India?I want to see her all firsts as she has never stepped out of her house..the makers really need to focus on other things now rather than shahs and their tooooiooooooooooooooo much tamasha

Originally posted by: ishajimmy

No one is thinking in Vanraj point of view.he was a sole bread earner from a very young age.it’s that he was nurchered in a way that a man should earn for the house and female should run the house. And as anu is progressing every one is like they have got options that why to live with a setting sun as he has become stangnent.As the other option is profitable means a rich n famous businessman. This is frustrating for Vanraj that no one is looking after the sacrifices he has made.only chanting Anu Anu Anu she did this she did that that’s it.

Regarding anuj he was from a business family who where rich and influential and when you have not struggled from the scratch but have to take it upwards then it’s normal that you will be at grace. Anuj didn’t have a bitter childhood like Vanraj he had a normal one without responsibilities but Vanraj had a difficult childhood and still his father and sister were like you are a demon. Which might have got frustrating for Vanraj and he just starts lashing around.

Probably, but that does not excuse a guy from insulting a woman!! However the situations are, you have to maintain that behavioral aspect of not insulting your wife left, right and center. His upbringing, his surroundings have a play here, i agree, but then he is also not a human without brains who cannot access between right and wrong in a situation. A human's behavior in the worst possible scenario shows his character and in this V has failed.

Originally posted by: bob-bob

Well put and yes interesting analysis. My main issues however is

How much is enough? They have all LITERALLY spelled out for her what they think about her , how they feel about her- they have said it to her, they have said it to the neighbours, they have showed it to her by taking away property and throwing her out. When is the “enough is enough” point?

So for all her big talks about “mere par koi ungali uthai and my self respect” is all talk no action she’s moved out physically but mentally she’s still stuck.

I am ok with slow MaAn progression. But this is bothering me. This and no work progression.

BUT I AGREE - Anuj should not be taken for granted. He has big shoulders () and can handle the responsibility but that does not mean that he should be made to. Anu darling is good at expressing gratitude (sometime too good à la Baa and vanraj) but please be mindful about this Anu or it will be a rude awakening too.

BOLD - yep, many a times we will feel that she is all talk and no action as she is still emotionally stuck with those people. This is a fact and this is where comes another point - does she consciously know that she is stuck? Is she not able to break this attachment? WHY? Is this a habit for her now??? We need scenes to play out for all this, or else I know we will loose interest or even respect for her if she does not show any progress eventually after more mishaps! I dont know why the writers have still kept her this attached!! She is still attached to Leela also, and tom will tell me whether this is true or has she really moved away from her BAA puja. It is frustrating yaa, i understand! Depends on writers on how or what they want to lead all this to. we will get this drama for another 2 weeks and its going to worsen. Anuj will step in when its worsened the most maybe with also the property fiasco. Utna hype hoga yeh.

Originally posted by: khushi345

How nicely written!!!! ❣️❣️

MaAn's story will certainly be slow burn. Have no problem with that...they can take as much time as needed....I am sure that their story will be amazing. The makers have been subtly showing Anu's admiration and immense respect for Anuj which will escalate to love....❤

Meanwhile, the Shahs may create as much drama and chaos as they wish to, as long as it results in effectively pushing MaAn together 🤗🤗 while I agree with your POV that Anu should not take Anuj for granted, I think that she may not have realized the effect her words would have on him.

loved your analysis of Bapuji's growth...❤❤ his choice to be self sufficient, even in his vulnerable state was beautifully portrayed on screen too...I completely agree with your point that everyone should be self sufficient.

Regards

Khushi

BOLD - this is another trigger point my friend. Nothing is easy to Anu, i mean nothing comes to her by herself... someone needs to push, make her think etc... as i said thats how she is, we accept it or we leave it. So her realizing what he really means will need another trigger by something or someone else!! Abhi kafi turbulences hain/hoga I feel. It will not be an easy ride am afraid

Bob agreed that Vanraj started working to support his family early. But that does not necessarily make you a egoist. If he did not want to marry anupama he should have had the guts to say no to his dadi.

If he found her incompatible he could have decently said let's part ways.

Maybe burdened by domestic chores which Anupama shouldered from 17 she was reluctant for a 3rd child. Vanraj was insistent but lost interest in Anupama thereafter.

She became his punching bag. She could not voice her desires. She could not serve a cup of tea to her brother without taunts.

Imagine a mobile spy cam in the form of Leela who walked around with binoculars in the house.

I understand he took his role as provider seriously. baapuji gets a pension so he must have had a job and was nit idle as some are suggesting.

May not have been a high paying job. When he gave a portion of the house to Anupama, Leela mentioned that he had bought land in her na m e as security.

How come the same Leela calls him incompetent?

Vanraj had never learnt to do anything at home. He carried on the affair, kavya stayed on his house as friend. He had cake cutting and cake feeding all in the open and Leela was okay with it.

The toxic ties should all snap one at school time. She should learn to day no to the demands of Baapuji too. Then she will be ready to fly.

The serial is positioned as one on empowerment.

The journey is as precarious as walking in snow. Sometimes after a few forward steps one slides several. It will be a while before she stabilizes. Someone had used imagery from deaddiction.

Maan is only a 2 month old narrative and a week since she knows of his love. There are folks choosing names for their kids because our heart craves for a love story that is immediately gratified.

Knowing the kind of person anupama is, who refused to move with her mom after the EMA saying one cheated why should I lose the others. For her to move out a lot of drama had to occur and venom spewed.

Anuj was scouting for land if they show the restaurant I would wonder which Magician fabricated it from thin air!

Folks might be restless with tracks. Anupama has high viewership even in the first 350 episodes though the interest generated now is higher.

The guy has Waited 26 years and willing to wait 26 lifetimes. We can't even wait 26 episodes, 😉

Originally posted by: Piyu234

MaAn getting closer slowly slowly is ok..no rush..but Anupama is not moving forward that’s the problem..they are sending the wrong message..she is divorced,she left house everything but still she’s seen to let shahs take advantage of her good nature..she told baa ki muje chappal se maariye etc etc ..what is the need of all that n y she should hit u at the first place?one side ur telling ki he’s my only friend and defending ur friendship with Anuj and on the other way ur telling baa to hit u?wt nonsense..I understand she’s lived in that house for 26 years and attachment is def there but she needs to understand that she’s now divorced and Wateva baa told her post the night out with Anuj is enough for her to break all ties..I saw her attitude only the day she left shah house and wn she signed the papers on street..post that she’s again same old cry baby..I want to see her professional growth..her all firsts just like her first flight/beach etc etc..it’s all gone now post the cooking competition..and Anuj also…don’t he have an empire to look to?he’s always seen supporting anu and at her place/academy..where is THE ANUJ KAPADIA that the makers claim to be the business tycoon of India?I want to see her all firsts as she has never stepped out of her house..the makers really need to focus on other things now rather than shahs and their tooooiooooooooooooooo much tamasha

Agreed!!

BOLD - well they could focus on all the things that you said in the last 3-4 lines, par yaar kay karen!! They are also hooked to Shah's. I also am done with Shah's and seeing how Anuj is getting pulled every day, i also feel at times ki bhai tera business hai, usee bhi tho dekh!! LOL

well the writers are in some other tangent and they want (i sincerely hope) to break major ties of Anu with Shah's maybe!! I am just going with the flow.

The comment abt hitting with chappal - thats how a submissive woman will talk. She will bear any damn thing for her loved ones! This is again a sad fact. Writers again must write a bolder script to bring in changes in her

Originally posted by: moonwearer

Bob agreed that Vanraj started working to support his family early. But that does not necessarily make you a egoist. If he did not want to marry anupama he should have had the guts to say no to his dadi.

If he found her incompatible he could have decently said let's part ways.

Maybe burdened by domestic chores which Anupama shouldered from 17 she was reluctant for a 3rd child. Vanraj was insistent but lost interest in Anupama thereafter.

She became his punching bag. She could not voice her desires. She could not serve a cup of tea to her brother without taunts.

Imagine a mobile spy cam in the form of Leela who walked around with binoculars in the house.

I understand he took his role as provider seriously. baapuji gets a pension so he must have had a job and was nit idle as some are suggesting.

May not have been a high paying job. When he gave a portion of the house to Anupama, Leela mentioned that he had bought land in her na m e as security.

How come the same Leela calls him incompetent?

Vanraj had never learnt to do anything at home. He carried on the affair, kavya stayed on his house as friend. He had cake cutting and cake feeding all in the open and Leela was okay with it.

The toxic ties should all snap one at school time. She should learn to day no to the demands of Baapuji too. Then she will be ready to fly.

The serial is positioned as one on empowerment.

The journey is as precarious as walking in snow. Sometimes after a few forward steps one slides several. It will be a while before she stabilizes. Someone had used imagery from deaddiction.

Maan is only a 2 month old narrative and a week since she knows of his love. There are folks choosing names for their kids because our heart craves for a love story that is immediately gratified.

Knowing the kind of person anupama is, who refused to move with her mom after the EMA saying one cheated why should I lose the others. For her to move out a lot of drama had to occur and venom spewed.

Anuj was scouting for land if they show the restaurant I would wonder which Magician fabricated it from thin air!

Folks might be restless with tracks. Anupama has high viewership even in the first 350 episodes though the interest generated now is higher.

The guy has Waited 26 years and willing to wait 26 lifetimes. We can't even wait 26 episodes, 😉

BOLD -- AGREED

Last line 🤣🤣, this was icing on the cake girl!!

Originally posted by: RainFire125

BOLD - this is another trigger point my friend. Nothing is easy to Anu, i mean nothing comes to her by herself... someone needs to push, make her think etc... as i said thats how she is, we accept it or we leave it. So her realizing what he really means will need another trigger by something or someone else!! Abhi kafi turbulences hain/hoga I feel. It will not be an easy ride am afraid

Completely agree with you....this is a terrible falw in Anu's character. Wonder what her trigger would be this time!!! MaAn's story will have numerous ups and downs for sure....

Originally posted by: khushi345

Completely agree with you....this is a terrible falw in Anu's character. Wonder what her trigger would be this time!!! MaAn's story will have numerous ups and downs for sure....

yep this is her greatest weakness... I dont know whether they will address this or not!!